Most useful programming languages

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Originally posted by Klashe:

Maybe "cheap ripoff" was a little too strong. I was quoting your early post. Then I realized that you said "I USED to think".

It definetly has it's roots based on C or C++. And it is a good beginner's language. I wish I had learned it in school as my first prog class (instead of useless Scheme).

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Yeah, I used to just think it was a cheap ripoff of c++. However, now that I have gotten into it a lot more, my feelings have changed. Now, the big question is, what does everyone think about C# https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif

C/C++, VB are excellent skills and both are highly marketable. Java is pretty cool too. Knowing theory like OO, modularity, etc is a Good Thing.

Once you know another programming language (especially VB), ASP is a snap. PHP is another good scripting language for web work.

I'll second the motion to stay the hell away from Access for any real database work. It's ok as a learning tool for VB/C++ <--> DB stuff but it won't cut it as a serious database. Learning some SQL is good too.

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Hey, it's great we have a new programming forum! I'll help anyone out to the best of my ability, but I mainly specialize in web design basics like XHTML (HTML 4.0 is dead https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/6.gif), JavaScript, and ColdFusion. In particular, I feel that a good knowledge of CGI, JavaScript, Perl, and ASP/ColdFusion (Both languages do pretty much the same thing, just by different companies) will get you by in web design. Just my two cents though.

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Originally posted by Mr. Silver:
Hey, it's great we have a new programming forum! I'll help anyone out to the best of my ability, but I mainly specialize in web design basics like XHTML (HTML 4.0 is dead https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/6.gif), JavaScript, and ColdFusion. In particular, I feel that a good knowledge of CGI, JavaScript, Perl, and ASP/ColdFusion (Both languages do pretty much the same thing, just by different companies) will get you by in web design. Just my two cents though.

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I've heard a lot about ColdFusion. What is it exactly? I know it's some kind of web based tool. Like Flash perhaps? I know Flash, Photoshop, Illuustrator, Imageready and GoLive. Would it be difficult for me to learn?

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Originally posted by Klashe:
I've heard a lot about ColdFusion. What is it exactly? I know it's some kind of web based tool. Like Flash perhaps? I know Flash, Photoshop, Illuustrator, Imageready and GoLive. Would it be difficult for me to learn?

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AFAIK its server side environment for dynamic web pages. I think it is very similar to Microsoft's Active server pages (ASP)


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Originally posted by Klashe:
I've heard a lot about ColdFusion. What is it exactly? I know it's some kind of web based tool. Like Flash perhaps? I know Flash, Photoshop, Illuustrator, Imageready and GoLive. Would it be difficult for me to learn?

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No, it's more like ASP. ColdFusion is a server side language which is centered around SQL. Probably it's most valued asset is it's flexibility and dynamics. You can make great things with the language, like chat, message boards, and even online stores. My high school has a webmasters club and our president is a huge ColdFusion fan. Our homepage is swarming with it. When it launches you'll be able to see a good example of a page utilizing ColdFusion.



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Just so everyone knows C/C++ are not the best languages out there. They are both good, older and more widely used is why people always look to it first. People needed to start looking toward the younger brands such as Delphi, VB, CGI, XML and dozens of others out there.

In fact because everyone uses it I am trying to be different by learning Visual Basic 6 and mainly program with it.

[This message has been edited by Snoop Dogg (edited December 29, 2000).]

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Originally posted by Snoop Dogg:
Just so everyone knows C/C++ are not the best languages out there. They are both good, older and more widely used is why people always look to it first. People needed to start looking toward the younger brands such as Delphi, VB, CGI, XML and dozens of others out there.

In fact because everyone uses it I am trying to be different by learning Visual Basic 6 and mainly program with it.

[This message has been edited by Snoop Dogg (edited December 29, 2000).]

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Hmmmm, I haven't worked with C/C++ but my friend has and he says it's a great language to start out with. I'm just a newbie, but I thought that the younger languages you mentioned are already pretty popular. VB is used by a lot of programmers, along with XML and CGI. I haven't even tried to look at Oracle because to be honest I have to learn more of the basics like JavaScript and Perl before I move up to more complex languages.



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Originally posted by Mr. Silver:
I haven't even tried to look at Oracle because to be honest I have to learn more of the basics like JavaScript and Perl before I move up to more complex languages.

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Wut?? Oracle isnt complex... https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/08/2.gif
Yea right, thats like saying C++ isnt any harder to learn than Pascal. Oracle is a pain in the ***, and if u dont have a foundation in C++ u might as well give up now... i thought abt learning SQL & Delphi, but i think i have enough on my plate for now... better to try a couple and learn them than to try all of them and not master a single one...

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Originally posted by toonzwile:
Wut?? Oracle isnt complex... https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/08/2.gif
Yea right, thats like saying C++ isnt any harder to learn than Pascal. Oracle is a pain in the ***, and if u dont have a foundation in C++ u might as well give up now... i thought abt learning SQL & Delphi, but i think i have enough on my plate for now... better to try a couple and learn them than to try all of them and not master a single one...

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That's what I was trying to say. I need to master some other languages first before moving on to something I know nothing about.


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Originally posted by Snoop Dogg:
Just so everyone knows C/C++ are not the best languages out there. They are both good, older and more widely used is why people always look to it first. People needed to start looking toward the younger brands such as Delphi, VB, CGI, XML and dozens of others out there.

In fact because everyone uses it I am trying to be different by learning Visual Basic 6 and mainly program with it.

[This message has been edited by Snoop Dogg (edited December 29, 2000).]

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I don't think that C or C++ has outlived it's usefulness quite yet. There are tradeoffs with those newer languages you mentioned. There could be a lot of overhead that slows it down or it can take up a lot of space (i know VB is like that).

Everyone NEEDS to learn C or C++. I don't feel a programmer can be good without plugging through some C++ code at one point in their life.

iv got to do java next year and im not looking foward to it because weve been told its a right ***** but then again were using Turbo pascal at the moment and thats really bad but just for practice its good

Well I am not a Programmer myself but heard that C/C++ aren't The *BEST* languages maybe good but not the Best.


Also I want to be a programmer but which language should I start out with? I was thinking VB 6 but I am a newbie so whatever works...also do you need to buy books or are the programs like Microsoft VB 6 like WYSIWYG editors?

Remember I am totally new and know nothing about programming.

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Originally posted by Snoop Dogg:
Well I am not a Programmer myself but heard that C/C++ aren't The *BEST* languages maybe good but not the Best.


Also I want to be a programmer but which language should I start out with? I was thinking VB 6 but I am a newbie so whatever works...also do you need to buy books or are the programs like Microsoft VB 6 like WYSIWYG editors?

Remember I am totally new and know nothing about programming.

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Well, there is no such thing as the best language. Every one of them has tradeoffs.

Learning VB is a good idea though. I don't think that you will need to buy any books because there is lots of stuff online about it.

Java and DHTML...Python and C++

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