If I didnt have to juggle having 3 gf's maybe I'd get one too. lol! Sometimes having variety doesnt always pay off. :)
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If I didnt have to juggle having 3 gf's maybe I'd get one too. lol! Sometimes having variety doesnt always pay off. :)
I really can't see the point upgradeing at the moment. I just don't play enough games to justify it. Maybe next year I'll grab the 9700Pro (if doom 3 ever is released) but I think the 9800Pro is just not worth the money at the moment.
Cheers,
Doom 3 has been said to NOT be released before E3 but it will be released soon after.Quote:
Originally posted by Casper1612
(if doom 3 ever is released)
He said he pre-ordered it.Quote:
Originally posted by Unomas
If it shipped tuesday, when should we start seeing in stores like CompUSA and Best Buy??
Oh, and this... http://www.nordichardware.com/#95
Thought I'd share it with everyone. Looks pretty good not to mention it's physical appearance.
However, it doesn't look like the original ATi board that's on the ATi website. What company manufactured this one?
No thanks, why get this when you can get a 9600, or a 9500... half the cost, and notice no significant differnece in games.
Sorry but the difference between 100 FPS, and 150 FPS isn't worth a 200 dollar premium. I am still wondering why people buy these cards, I mean yeah your hardcore I suppose, but... you mean to tell me, you can't save the money and buy a 9500.
What I really don't get is, why people by the most high end card everytime a new high end card comes out? Thats like buying the fastest car, everytime a new car comes out thats faster than the fastest one before, even though the differnce is messaured in seconds?
Seriously if you are buying this card because you want the highest 3DMark, I truly feel sorry for you:(
Now, I suppose of you have the money to throw around, then it's a much easier choice, as everything is when one has lots of money. But even if I had the money, I would question the buy.
Man, I'm still trying to see about getting a 9700 Pro, or if not, a 9500 pro to upgrade from my GeForce2 Ti 64MB. Although thinking about the new 9800, it'd be nice, but I might as well wait until I get a 9700 or 9500 pro, and then wait another year two years or so before upgrading again. That way prices of some of the newer cards and any cards tht come out will be lower priced, but that's my opinion. I'd love to as hell get a 9800, but unless I suddenly get like $450 or so, I'm going to have to stay away from it. It's still a mystery of whether I should get a 9500 or 9700 pro.
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Originally posted by Idiot356
Seriously if you are buying this card because you want the highest 3DMark, I truly feel sorry for you:(
Well go cry in a corner for me.....ok? :rolleyes:
Yeah right, I'm fine with what I've got. Won't be awhile until I need to get a new one.
I can’t see a reason to get this card now, unless you’re an Unreal 2 die hard. From what I’ve heard U2 isn’t that great anyway. Once Doom 3 is released, that may be a reason to invest in such a card, but I’d rather wait and let the prices drop. Of course if Doom 3 tanks, there won’t be a reason to upgrade for a long time.
Hey you have a right to your opinion. But please dont bash other people for the things that they enjoy.Quote:
Seriously if you are buying this card because you want the highest 3DMark, I truly feel sorry for you
Seriously, what is ATI thinking releasing a card with aprox 15% increase. Nobody here wants one, and for good reason. Wow my FPS can go from 74 to 80. Woah!!!! WHeres my $400!!!
Even IF Doom3 were to tank. The engine would still be highly licensed with plenty of games using it. There would still be, and always will be, reasons to own high end cards.Quote:
Originally posted by rhettro
I can’t see a reason to get this card now, unless you’re an Unreal 2 die hard. From what I’ve heard U2 isn’t that great anyway. Once Doom 3 is released, that may be a reason to invest in such a card, but I’d rather wait and let the prices drop. Of course if Doom 3 tanks, there won’t be a reason to upgrade for a long time.
there are always people that want to have the best there is. i am usually one of those people, sure we might get flamed for doing it, but hey is my money and i want to be able to utilize the hardware i have to its fullest extent.
i dont see any reason here that someone should be in the least about a person ugrading hardware as often or as infrequent as he/she likes.
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Originally posted by raider1v1
there are always people that want to have the best there is. i am usually one of those people, sure we might get flamed for doing it, but hey is my money and i want to be able to utilize the hardware i have to its fullest extent.
i dont see any reason here that someone should be in the least about a person ugrading hardware as often or as infrequent as he/she likes.
EXACTLY. I make the money and I spend the money. If I want to shell out $300-$400 every 4-6 months for a new card then by god I'm gonna do it.
In my experience, the only people who flame others for buying new equipment are people who really would like to be able to, but can't. Almost like a jealousy thing. Not trying to be rude, just stating the facts.
Yep, I can see the jealousy thing being there. I think it's cool that people do it. If they didn't, then how would the lower end users (like myself) know which video card was the best when we decide to upgrade every year (or in my case goin on 2 years now). I usually follow the big users, just so I can see how their latest hardware is doing for the simple reason that I might be getting it one day down the road. :cool: Viva La Power User. :cool:Quote:
Originally posted by vertices
In my experience, the only people who flame others for buying new equipment are people who really would like to be able to, but can't. Almost like a jealousy thing. Not trying to be rude, just stating the facts.
edit: Also, one more thought, how can someone criticize another person for spending their own money. Would I personally buy the latest and greatest stuff if I was loaded, maybe, maybe not. However just because I don't agree doesn't give me the right to criticize. :)
Your also forgetting that not everyone has the current high end vide card. A person with a geforce 2 whom has been waiting to upgrade might find the 9800 worthwhile since it's increase compunds on top of a 9700, 8500, geforce 4, geforce 3,....
That is why they release them. Not to catch all the people whom upgrade every chance they get (like me), but also to get those whom upgrade to the top end every few years. Also, it's very good for us that they are continually pushing the bar. You won't always see major improvements, but any improvement in general is a step in the right direction.
Then there are people like me :)
Who just buys things because they like too... I like playing with new hardware... I like to know what they can do and cannot do... I get bored of my computer real fast if I cannot upgrade something when I do my monthly format :)
montly format? what is up with that?!!! :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
Then there are people like me :)
Who just buys things because they like too... I like playing with new hardware... I like to know what they can do and cannot do... I get bored of my computer real fast if I cannot upgrade something when I do my monthly format :)
it should be more like a WEEKLY format!!! :D :D hehehe...just joking with ya. ;)
hey colossus, why not just use ghost? and put a "clean" , updated (sp1) install on? much faster.
1) Crank up the detail levels and resolutions etc and you will notice big FPS differences between a high and midrange card, the higher detail level you go, the faster a midrange card drops off in the fps.Quote:
Originally posted by Idiot356
No thanks, why get this when you can get a 9600, or a 9500... half the cost, and notice no significant differnece in games.
Sorry but the difference between 100 FPS, and 150 FPS isn't worth a 200 dollar premium. I am still wondering why people buy these cards, I mean yeah your hardcore I suppose, but... you mean to tell me, you can't save the money and buy a 9500.
What I really don't get is, why people by the most high end card everytime a new high end card comes out? Thats like buying the fastest car, everytime a new car comes out thats faster than the fastest one before, even though the differnce is messaured in seconds?
Seriously if you are buying this card because you want the highest 3DMark, I truly feel sorry for you:(
Now, I suppose of you have the money to throw around, then it's a much easier choice, as everything is when one has lots of money. But even if I had the money, I would question the buy.
2) We buy them because we want the best, we can afford it, so we get it. You don't want to do it, that's fine, just don't bash us for having better hardware.
3) We don't do it for a high 3d mark score. People like me could really care less what the 3d mark score is I get. I care how high a detail level I can run the game. I want to be able to run the latest games at the highest detail options I can at 1280x1024, over 50 or so fps, so that the game runs smoothly, and I can run anything no problem. $400 every 6 months isn't a big investment for me, I can afford it, if you can't, please don't bash us about it, then try to hide your jealousy at the end with "well I guess you have the money".
I know, but I am always finding updated drivers, etc... So I would have to make the image right after the installation.Quote:
Originally posted by raider1v1
hey colossus, why not just use ghost? and put a "clean" , updated (sp1) install on? much faster.
I might do that, but I never minded XP install. Most of it is automated. Just a few questions/answers and I am done!
i feel just like you colossus. i have had a new computer for about a month now, and i find myself ordering everything i can still. i now have about $100 in accesories like that zalman cooler, uv crap, cables, etc. anything i can find to spend money on, i am, though now i'm just about at the end of my account:( . i need a job again, i need more stuff. this is pretty sad though. i want an intel system just to use new stuff, one month after i went with amd, not saying either is better, but just because i want new hardware. my new hobby is biting me in the butt. being 18 rules, i can get a job all summer, and blow all my money on my comp. i can't wait.:D
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Originally posted by vertices
Even IF Doom3 were to tank. The engine would still be highly licensed with plenty of games using it. There would still be, and always will be, reasons to own high end cards.
True enough. But my point is that Doom 3 isn't out yet, Doom 3 games will come months after Doom 3 is released. The last rumour I heard was that D3 will be out in November. I would guess D3 based games would come at the eariest two months later, i.e. January 2004. I would guess that there will be one more video card product cycle between then and now. Considering the slight preformance difference between the 9700pro and the 9800pro, what advantage is there to investing in a 9800pro now? If your hardcore, you could wait until the day D3 is released and get the 9800Pro for a reduced price, or get the next generation product (R400?, NV40?). I suppose that if you're really hardcore you'd get the 9800Pro now, and the R400 then, right? That's cool too. But I think it's in the best interest of most people to wait for a game that puts its power to use.
<------Really Hardcore..heh hehQuote:
Originally posted by rhettro
I suppose that if you're really hardcore you'd get the 9800Pro now, and the R400 then, right? That's cool too. But I think it's in the best interest of most people to wait for a game that puts its power to use.
It's out in the summer, carmack stated it wouldn't be out by E3 but not in the fall.Quote:
Originally posted by rhettro
The last rumour I heard was that D3 will be out in November.