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Now it won't post even after sitting for 10 hours. I picked up a new 400w Antec ps. I connected just the main mobo connector and primary hard drive and turned it on. Still no post.
So it's not the power supply. I am going to pickup a cpu tonight to see if that's what it is. If it's not the cpu then it must be the mobo. Right???
You've gotta narrow it down, and I guess the best way to do it is to do the easiest replacements first....tell ya, I'll REALLY be surprised if it isn't one of the 3 you're working with........Quote:
Originally Posted by Beeker
I picked up a sempron 2800+ last night because that was the only socket a cpu compusa had in stock. I installed that but still it wont post. Now that could be because the sempron won't work in my mobo without a bios reflash. I am currently using bios 1005 and according to asus I would need 1009 in order to use a sempron. I was just hoping it would at least post with the sempron. I guess not. I am going to try a different compusa tonight to see if they have a regular XP or Duron socket a in stock.
good luck Beeker. :)
Ok. I'm back. :p
The Sempron didn't post. I posted a question about the sempron. I asked if a sempron would post in a mobo that has a bios that was created before the sempron existed. No one answered but I assume it should at least post and then run the cpu as an unrecongized cpu. Either way, it didn't post.
I couldn't find a socket A cpu at any retailers but I found a computer at work that has a Xp 2000+ cpu. I brought that computer home and used it as a guinea pig.
I removed the cpu from my work's computer and installed my Xp 2500+. Sure enough it posted and the mobo listed my 2500 as an unrecongized cpu and ran it at 1466 mhz and 266 fsb. I loaded windows and the pc worked like normal.
I then installed the "borrowed" Xp 2000 in my pc. And you guessed it, no post! :eek:
I then tried the power supply from the "borrowed" pc in mine. I know it isn't the power supply, since I already tried a brand new Antec 400w, but since I had it I figured, what the heck. Again, no post! :eek:
So I still don't know whats wrong. I know it's not the power supply or the cpu. I guess that leaves the mobo. What else could it be?
I am going to call Asus tomorrow. Hopefully, I'll get to talk to an intelligent tech. Maybe everything I've tried some how corrupted the bios. I doubt it but I'm sure Asus will tell me to start there. I'll probably have to wait for them to send me a new bios chip. After I receive that I'll have to call back and tell them it didn't fix it. Then they will tell me I have to send the mobo in to be inspected/repaired. It's almost 3 years old so I'm sure it's not under warranty. So where does that leave me? Paying to repair a 3 year old mobo doesn't make a whole lot of sense. :(
If that's the case then I guess I'm selling my Xp-2500 and looking into an A64 setup.
Wow. Good luck, hopefully the motherboard is the issue. Way to stick with it man. I would have given up long ago.
Hi:
Do you check that you have adequate power supply and UPS? If the power does not have enough juice, it might post with minimal attached peripherals, but not full-loaded system.
If you live at the area with a not-so-stable voltage electricity, you need a UPS as well. I had the experience that the system power-up at the morning but not other time due to the unstable voltage and was resolved after an UPS installed.
Your CPU and motherboard might be fine but the power is not quite good enough especially when you installed a new heat-sink with much power drawing fan from the motherboard.
Good luck.
Actually, that's prolly your best move. As was said, gotta give you some props for all your work. Hope it turns out as you want........Quote:
Originally Posted by Beeker
dakotai,
I already tried a brand new 400w Antec power supply. When I tried that I only plugged in the 20 pin connector, primary hard drive, and video card molex connector. I left all of the pci cards intalled but 400w should be plenty to power those without any optical drives connected. I have been using my pc at my current house for almost 2 years. I doubt it's a problem with the electricity. Also, I tried to post without any fans connected to eliminate the fans power draw as the problem. Still no post.
I am going to call Asus when I have some free time. Maybe they will be some help.
Your mobos busted definitely. Mine did the exact same thing with the fans after it died, the fans on the PSU however twitched in spasms. As if they were trying to start up but were pulled back to start thanks to the permanent magnets.
I finally called ASUS. They e-mailed me a list of stuff to try. Most of which I have already tried.
It does say to remove the mobo from the tray and place it on a piece of cardboard to eliminate a bad ground as the problem. I haven't tried that yet but I doubt thats it since it has been working for two years. I guess I will try it because I have to remove the mobo anyway if I want to send it to ASUS for repairs.
They said the mobo has a 3 year warranty so it may actually be covered. I told him I have been running the cpu overclocked since I installed it. He then said "well if the mobo was overclocked then it voids the warranty". I told him that all I did was raise the fsb to 200. So the cpu was overclocked not the mobo. I have revision 2.0 which is a 200 fsb mobo. He seemed to agree and sent me an e-mail with instructions of stuff to try and how to get an RMA number. I will post again tomorrow with my results of stuff I tried tonight.
I'm sure I will be shipping out my mobo tomorrow. :mad: Then comes the waiting... :(
Good luck, again. Yeah, watch out what you say to vendors. Funny how the mobo has a 200FSB spec and then you have to defend yourself when you actually use it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beeker
been reading this thread wiv curiosity, hope the problems get sorted, keep us updated! gl.
Well I mailed out the mobo today. I will post once I hear back from ASUS.
Hopefully I won't hear from them. I'd rather just come home to a new mobo sitting on my front steps. :)
I really hope thats the problem. Last night I had everything disconnected except the cpu, 1 stick of ram, and the video card. I had the mobo sitting on a magazine to eliminate a bad ground as the problem. It still wouldn't post.
If it turns out that nothing is wrong with the mobo, which I doubt, what else could it possibly be???? :confused:
I'd wait until you got the new mobo to think about that. No use driving yourself more nuts than this problem's already been........... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Beeker
After waiting all this time I figured it was time to call Asus. They said my new mobo should be shipping out soon. I asked the woman on the phone what was wrong with my mobo and she said I don't know. I asked her when I was going to receive my new mobo and she said I should get an email with a tracking number automatically. I then asked her when I would get that email and she said I don't know. She didn't know much! :mad:
I guess my mobo was the problem. What exactly was the problem with the mobo, I don't know and I probably never will. When will I get my new mobo so I can find out for sure that was the problem, I don't know. :confused:
I am starting think spending $200.00 for an A64 mobo and cpu was the road I should have taken.
At least after all this is said and done I should, at least, know what the problem was. I may not know exactly what went wrong with the mobo but as long as I find out for sure that the mobo was the problem I'll be happy. ;)
Closure is often a b**ch. I guess you got as close as you could.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beeker
My new mobo is back and working! I installed everything, crossed my fingers and turned it on. Poof! It posted and worked perfectly! I went into the bios and set everything to my original overclocked settings. I then ran prime95 overnight. When I woke up it had rebooted windows. I thought it crashed but what happened was windows installed some updates that required an automatic restart.
I was relieved it didn't crash. I then started prime again. After running prime for 12 hours without an error I stopped it. The hottest the cpu got while running prime was 43c. I then burned 3 DVD's without any problems.
I think it is safe to say it's fixed!
Thanks guys for all your help. It took a lot of time but it was worth it to me to figure out what happened. Plus, all it cost me was time and the $7.00 to ship my broken mobo to ASUS.
Really, glad to hear it!! AND, maybe if something weird like this happens again ( :p ), you'll have a world of experience to resolve it more quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beeker
It happened to me once also. I had an OLD videocard, and it wouldn't work. I left it alone for a week or so, and when I started the pc again, it booted. I thought it was weird, and just left it alone.
Also, out of experience (with my first videocard mod) I found out that if the Heatsynk is too tight, too loose, or slanted, the bloody thing won't post. (You can imagine my scare when I modified my brand new 9600xt, and it wouldn't post.)
So it COULD have been the heatsink slanted, and when the thermal paste cured, it made complete contact, and worked fine.
That is my guess though, and nothing more. I know yours was a cpu, but I had a darn similar encounter with my GPU, so I thought I would just mention it.
adpr_02, I appreciate the post but in my case it was definately, 100% sure, the motherboard.
did you double check all of the power connections inside and the one on the back? it sounds like something is loose. cpu's dont work only sometimes like a crappy lawnmower :)
check that and then do the reseating thing that the other people suggested.
Guys, its fixed! It was the mobo. Please read the whole thread before you post. :p
After reading the whole thread ;) I think you may have bent the mobo a little bit with the uninstalling/installing and maybe cracked a trace or so.
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