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A fairly new driver on nf4 was causing my system to reboot all the time. Usually with a "driver" type message or paging error. I'd be able to run prime for days but I would get these strange reboots usually doing the most simple thing. Like clicking the start button.Quote:
Originally Posted by kenrippy
the NF2 nvidia IDE drivers were causing bad burns when doing movies w/ clonedvd/anydvd. it would cause glitches in the movies. it took me a while before figuring it out.
thanks ewitte.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
Been there done all that ...took me almost three days to figure it out.
A simple change to 2t in the memory timings did it.
For the record, I've never had a problem with the NVidia IDE drivers, as a matter of fact, the difference in drive benches between the MS & NVidia drivers are enough to keep me using the NVidia drivers.
I appreciate the thought ;)
Hmm. It does not seem to be an issue here. What kind of cooling do you have on that CPU? I've got mine on water and the temperature stays pretty low. Maybe the memory controller is under too much stress for the conditions presented.?Quote:
Originally Posted by Almost Famous
right now just stock, but I have it @ 250X9 for stock speed CPU until my nw hsf gets here tomorrow (still using stock HSF). Right now I'm at 99f, it gets up to 122f under full load encoding DVDs. It's not the HSF if I'm at stock CPU Mhz, it was a memory timing issue ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
I just mean they get a little more sensative the higher the temperature. Its still designed to only be connecting to memory running 200Mhz. On that note I had 290x10 working just fine, but it would start to error out during memtest or whatever else I was doing after a while. I'm sure there is a timing setting to get it stable but I just turned on an A/C unit I use for benchmarking (dedicated for my PC) and it ran just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almost Famous
He He...cooler is ALWAYS better!Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
I just noticed that my NB Voltages seem a bit on the low side..not sure if that could have something to do with it or not?
https://www.sharkyforums.com/
Its going to be killer with A/C for case and phase change for the CPU. What are you using for a PSU? It could possibly be unstable voltages. Which could make sense. I've got a pretty decent 535W Enermax with two separate 12v rails.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almost Famous
Eric
if you're concerned about benchies, you should try to keep your memory on 1t instead of 2t. i wouldn't be too happy with pc4000 that won't run at it's rated timings/speed at 1t command rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almost Famous
I agree..I have an email into GSkill asking them what the default is for that ram...so far...no answer :(Quote:
Originally Posted by kenrippy
It turns out my MB was undervolting the NB a bit..I just adjusted it via the bios. ;)
Bumping the NB up didn't help @ 1T..going to order some different ram right now.
TB...sorry for jacking your thread ;)
Have you tried swapping the ram around? Such as ram from socket 1 to socket 2, and ram that was in socket 2 to socket 1?
I would also try to play around with the voltage to get 1T to work. There is quite a big difference on my A64 of 1T vs 2T in terms of performance... But much less of a difference of what 2-2-2-5-1T vs 2-3-3-6-1T...
no problem - good info in here whether it's your system or mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almost Famous
and actually, i noticed something today. the part number i purchased from newegg for this mushkin is 991483, which is supposed to be pc4000 (250Mhz) that'll do 3-4-3-8 1T using up to 2.8v However, CPU-Z and Everest detect the sticks at 991483 and detect SPD timings of 3-4-3-8, but only at 200Mhz. i don't think jedec has a spec for pc4000 anyway, so i wasn't really surprised to see that it was only listed at 200MHZ for spd, but i was a little surprised by the timings.
maybe mushkin just hand picks these and gives them that 991483 number - i'll have to email them and find out (make sure i got the right stuff)
still haven't had any chance to play with stuff, i get home from work and have too much other crap to accomplish to be bothered with overclocking.
I haven't tried swapping them in their sockets yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colossus
From all the reviews I've read on this GSKill 2Gb PC4000, it does not like more than 2.6V. Not only were no gains made through upping the voltage, in some instances it did worse.
Thanks for the idea on swapping sockets, I'll give it a go right now, test and report back ;)
No go on swapping them, nor using the other 2 ram sockets either.
I just got an email back from GSkill. Thet said they were rated at 1t.
I guess I'll send them back and get a different brand. :(
Who's having good luck with what brand of 2X1Gb sticks of PC4000???
just to throw this out, cpuz1.31 shows my ballistix pc4000 SPD @Quote:
Originally Posted by thebove
250mhz
3.0
4
4
10 (although i think ballistix rates the Tras at 8)
my second set (RMA) are running great so far at 250 3-3-3-8 1T 2.7v
4400+ @ 250x10 vcore 1.475
edit: i by no way recommend crucial ballistix pc4000 :p
when i bought my mushkin at newegg, i was just about to pull the trigger on 2 1gb sticks (newegg didn't have the 2gb kits in stock) of the mushkin redline pc4000, or the ocz platinum EB pc4000. i've heard those are both really good, but they're also really expensive. the price is what made me try these mushkins, only $200 after rebate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almost Famous
but, just from what i've read so far tonight, for most a64 systems it doesn't seem to be the memory that has trouble running at 1T timings, but rather the motherboards. :confused:
he he GOT IT!
I have a hard time getting beat by a mobo or ram when I know it should work.
If you notice my first screen shot, my VDimm was overvolting by .4. I've heard that this ram does not like overvolting.
So I dropped it in the bios to 2.5, which dropped it in reality to 2.59, which gave me a success at 250Mhz with 1T !!
http://www.imaginetstudio.com/images/250yes.jpg
I knew it was going to be something that was staring me right in the face.
My new HSF should be here tomorrow and I'll see how far I can take the entire system.
;)
edit: also upped the NB since it was undervolting (had upped it without dropping the VDimm and it in of itself did not fix the problem).
edit:edit: the paltalk down in the taskbar had 25 windows of video open while i was decoding (I needed something to give me some high network traffic).
I hear a lot of people, at least with the newer EB chips, can not go over 265 or so with 3d problems. I got the EL from Newegg and its running great. It loses stability around 290.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebove
well, i'm still not having any luck with this. i've posted over on the mushkin forums to try and get some timings and settings that will work, and still haven't been able to get it to be stable in prime or 3d apps. i can run ANYTHING overnight at 11x228, 1:1, which puts the processor at just over 2.5Ghz....but as soon as i try the same speed with a lower multiplier and higher fsb, it craps out in prime and 3d stuff. memtest stable however.
here's the timings i'm running:
cas 3
trcd 4
trp 3
tras 8
trc 12
trfc 16
trwt 4
twr 3
command rate 1T
i'll have to take a closer look at the voltage stuff, take it down even lower and see what happens.
Is this TCCC/TCCD/TCC? ?Quote:
Originally Posted by thebove
The best stable settings were to change tref to 3120 and drive strength to level 5 (I hear 7 works good too). TCC? works best with weak drive strength where most others like strong drive strength. The evens are strong, odds are weak. The rest of my settings.
http://s150233688.onlinehome.us/settings.jpg
well, i took the voltage as low as it goes on my board (2.6). still couldn't get it. runs for just over an hour, then prime crashes. games crash almost instantly.
i'll have to download that utility there and see what some of the settings that aren't in my bios are set to. i don't have the option in my bios to change tref though, no option for drive strength either in the bios
also, according to the mushkin forums, the memory i have uses Samsung UCCC
The board might be your biggest overclocking problem then. To put it in perspective. I can get 290 memtest stable at 1T as long as I keep it cool. I switched the drive strength to an even number to see how things would turn out. It gave me like 68 billion errors and froze. Lol. That option is the single most effective setting for stabilization. Tref is the 2nd most effective option.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebove
yeah, i'm really not impressed with this board at all. it's my first asus, and i really don't think i'll get another. for stability under non overclocking sutiations it's been awesome, but for overclocking this thing really doesn't cut it. plus the bios on this board is extremely clunky and finicky. there's 2 separate places to specify overclocking settings, and if you make changes in one spot half the time it resets what you entered in the other part. :mad: