Good news for EPoX 8KHA+ owners

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Originally posted by Paladyr:
ah ga a ha a a uh a ah uh....

<i'm trying to talk while my jaw is still on the floor>

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OMG! I'm definitely getting that board! I've never heard of any board passing 200mhz, and now we're going over 220... https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif

Ok, that made up my mind right there, no more doubts for me. Epox 8kha+ it is! Hope i'll hit 200mhz, i think that ram might crap out before though.

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I think you can set RAM dividers can't you so that the RAM is only running at a fraction of what the CPU is running at???

This is really making it a tough decision between the Soyo Dragon and the RAID version of this board. I'm waiting until after christmas anyway... but man I'm losing patience!!! I've had two sticks of 256mb DDR 2100 Crucial RAM just sitting around waiting for me to make a decision (got it when it was cheap). This sux!!!

Does anyone remember a specific instance in which prices dropped immediately after christmas?? I'm just curious as to how much it might drop and if it is worth the wait. Thanks!

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holiday sales are usually the best time to get stuff cheap. It usually gets more expensive after christmas.

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Originally posted by talldude:
holiday sales are usually the best time to get stuff cheap. It usually gets more expensive after christmas.

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Sigh...I've half negotiated for a trade in on my 8KTA3 Pro and 512MB RAM for a 8KHA+. Hopefully I get a good sample. http://dev.www.sharkyforums.forums.relay.cool/

Anyone know what's the best between Mushkin PC2100, Micron PC2100, TwinMOS PC2100 and Kingston PC2100?

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I'd say the Mushkin, but that's just my opinion.

Anyways, an update on the beta bios (8khil00).

Plain and simple, this bios hated, and I mean HATED, my Radeon 8500. So far, everyone that I've talked to who has had success with this bios is using a geforce3 of some sort http://dev.www.sharkyforums.forums.relay.cool/

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Alpha PAL8045
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Maxtor D740x 40 GB
ATI Radeon8500 (300/300)
Antec PP403x 400w

Yes you can set the raid controller to function as "normal" ide with jumpers. It will act as a second controller. Hope this helps.

talldude, I'd suggest waiting for the 8KHA2. I mailed EPoX asking for a release date and they said "End of December"! Hopefully this revision will be a lot more reliable, plus have better OCing/RAID/ATA133 https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif

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Originally posted by Mandorallen of Molynnr:
talldude, I'd suggest waiting for the 8KHA2. I mailed EPoX asking for a release date and they said "End of December"! Hopefully this revision will be a lot more reliable, plus have better OCing/RAID/ATA133 https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif

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thanks for the heads up. I might go ahead and buy all the other stuff like monitor etc and get the board after the year is over. I'm going on holidays over new-years so i doubt that i'll be able to get my hands on one of those boards before leaving. I think i won't use raid, there's really no point for me. I don't really care if games load up in .1seconds or .08 seconds. Single maxtor DMP D740X 60Gb hdd will suffice. the ata 133 interface is really good though. Hope they get the quality under control better and Ocing will become less frustrating https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif

Oh yeah, do you know if they will alter the socket spacing? I'm interested in not having to bend a mobo component to fit the alpha pal 8045 on there. The kha+ has some voltage regulator or something in the way that has to be slightly bent to get the monster hsf on.

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[This message has been edited by talldude (edited December 07, 2001).]

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Originally posted by talldude:

Oh yeah, do you know if they will alter the socket spacing? I'm interested in not having to bend a mobo component to fit the alpha pal 8045 on there. The kha+ has some voltage regulator or something in the way that has to be slightly bent to get the monster hsf on.

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I don't know if this image will help any but you can check it out :

https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/...2001/12/15.jpg

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Originally posted by Mandorallen of Molynnr:
http://virtual5.nebula.fi/~efidata/i...cci/221fsb.gif

Some dude from MadOnion used a 3/4 RAM divider or something and hit 221 MHz. https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/4.gif

Here's a guy from AthlonMB...he hit 205!

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/raptor/205.jpg

Here's a link to a BETA version of this BIOS, please be warned that it's BETA! However, it has been known to solve soft reboot problems.

http://www.3dxtreme.org/bios/8khaL00.BIN

Most of this I got from the thread at AthlonMB :

http://www.amdforums.com/showthread....5&pagenumber=1

Damn that's some excellent work from EPoX. Only thing that could make it better would be more VOLTAGE, however that would probably require a differnt voltage regulator. https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif

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Bah you just had to show it didnt you! Oh check on Icrontic Forums, some guy got his KR7A @ 200MHz FSB also so this board also has some potential https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/08/2.gif

http://wsphotofews.excite.com/018/nK/IE/LI/iK18392.jpg

w00t!!


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I've heard pretty good FSB OC attempts on the KR7A, and a little more consistant than the EPoX ones. (probably because the EPoX three phase boards are a LOT more picky about what PSU you use.)

BTW, nice choice on avatar!

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Originally posted by Mandorallen of Molynnr:
I've heard pretty good FSB OC attempts on the KR7A, and a little more consistant than the EPoX ones. (probably because the EPoX three phase boards are a LOT more picky about what PSU you use.)

BTW, nice choice on avatar!

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Thx!

This would be my dream mobo..alas..no money http://dev.www.sharkyforums.forums.relay.cool/




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Originally posted by Mandorallen of Molynnr:
I don't know if this image will help any but you can check it out :

https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/...2001/12/15.jpg

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https://www.sharkyforums.com/

There's the original, i guess the differences are pretty clear. I think there is some extra space on the kha2 and also, they've made the socket alignment different, it's vertical now...compare for yourself. I think the smartest thing on the kha2 is the placing of the atx connector. Out of the way! finally! I hate it how the connector usually comes right over the top of the hfs. Thanks for the pic MOM.

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[This message has been edited by talldude (edited December 08, 2001).]

221fbs would be something...

[This message has been edited by Futureman (edited December 09, 2001).]

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Originally posted by talldude:
http://www.amdmb.com/images/8kha+/board.jpg

There's the original, i guess the differences are pretty clear. I think there is some extra space on the kha2 and also, they've made the socket alignment different, it's vertical now...compare for yourself. I think the smartest thing on the kha2 is the placing of the atx connector. Out of the way! finally! I hate it how the connector usually comes right over the top of the hfs. Thanks for the pic MOM.

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Bad news from EPoX's site :

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Dec 10 2001(16:00) - Tentative launching schedule for 4SDA, 4SDA+ and 8KHA2 will be after Christmas

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Damn! Sales rep from EPoX said around the 15th. http://dev.www.sharkyforums.forums.relay.cool/

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8KHA2 looks worth the wait. I'm glad I didn't get overzealous when the KR7A was launched.

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Originally posted by sapasion:
8KHA2 looks worth the wait. I'm glad I didn't get overzealous when the KR7A was launched.

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My main hope is that there is a different voltage regulator which allows higher Vcore settings than 1.85V.

There always seems to be something better around the corner. 8KHA+ was a little bit of a disappoinmnet, but I'm sure the 8KHA2 will fix all of that. If it doesn't, there is always Shuttles new KT266A board. https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/6.gif

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Originally posted by Mandorallen of Molynnr:
My main hope is that there is a different voltage regulator which allows higher Vcore settings than 1.85V.

There always seems to be something better around the corner. 8KHA+ was a little bit of a disappoinmnet, but I'm sure the 8KHA2 will fix all of that. If it doesn't, there is always Shuttles new KT266A board. https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/6.gif

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Indeed 2.3v if I remember correctly. Heck I'd be glad with 2.0v

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that's my main concern also. I don't want to mod the board to max get decent voltage. Well, good news, going to thailand over christmas and new years so i can buy it there probably. They always get stuff fast. That's my final decision right there though. Looks like a great board.

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I know y'all are getting sick of this but I had to post it!

http://www.ocworkbench.com/archives/...ha+_fsb243.gif

243 MHz FSB! Don't know where it's from, ocworkbench.com just had a link on their main page.

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the numbers don't match up, they're off by a small margin. Maybe the prog just rounds them off and that's why u get a small error when multiplying...anyways, that's some crazy stuff. That means that his ram is running at like 210mz minimum...i don't know how u can do that.

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Max OC to boot in windows 896 mhz
creative geforce 256 120@150 core 166@200 memory
soundblaster live platinum
2x 128 mb pc-100 ram cas2 (awesome stuff)
28.5GB barracuda ATA
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buffalo 11mbs wireless lan
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Non of u guys even mentioned the Epox mod for higher voltage...The Epoxes i've seen hit 2200MHz have been modded for 2.something volts. https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/08/2.gif
Is it just common knowledge and Im action like a n00b? :P

I really am not puzzled by those high CPU speeds, what makes me wonder is the RAM speed. If I was to use a 1/4 divider on the 266MHZ FSB, that would mean the the bus would be running at 33MHz for PCI (66Mhz, but since its double pumped, its half of that)? ...that would mean the AGP would be inspec...

Bump the FSB a little and the RAM speed actually doubles...I did read that the first Crucial PC1600 modules were PC2100 speeds capable, and the PC2100 doing PC2400 speeds fine...but that PC2700 is for 170Mhz approx. So in order to get to 205MHz FSb, u would need like water cooling for the RAM or something....how do they do that?

https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2002/02/9.gif

Nah, PCI bus isn't double pumped, that's a feature of the DDR memory and the processor.

The reason that people can hit such high front side bus speeds on this board is because the BIOS has a divider for the memory, 3:4 IIRC. So if you're running at 200 MHz FSB, your RAM will be running at 150 MHz. You can disable this by setting the memory timings to "manual", but then you obviously won't be able to hit as high a front side bus.

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