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The problem with that is they get stuck in the moat and then they never catch on fire. I have about 10 dudes in the moat around my house that won't die during the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by monroeski
I like the survival bit, but this seems to be a round about way of making it seem "scary" or difficult.
But you can still build unmolested while they get trapped, which was the point. After that it takes exactly one bucket of lava to kill them all at your leisure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timman_24
I don't think it's roundabout at all, you're supposed to be scared of the dark from the very beginning and the basic mechanisms were in place to do that. The only difference now is that there are enough enemies around so that you actually ARE afraid of it and have to plan accordingly. I never used to really care about going out at night because most of the time I would only run into one or two enemies anyway (though of course there were bunches sometimes as well). Now as soon as the light goes darker a bit, signalling sundown, I start running for my base.
I mean, you complain about not being able to do anything at night but mine or go AFK, and when presented with a very easy way to do things at night you find something else that you don't like about that solution that is, again, very easily fixable. Remember that the game is still in the Alpha phase, and it will likely change a LOT between now and future releases. There's a peaceful difficulty setting that you can switch to on the fly if you really want a building simulator or a few hours of unmolested construction, but for other difficulties this is not a game that was meant for you to just run around doing whatever you want without taking precautions and setting up defenses.
I believe it is round-about to simply increase the mob count and make them randomly spawn. But that is just semantics on my part.
Right now my day consists of farming pigs to heal from a night of having to clear my mine so I can mine a few bricks to be able to place a few more bricks on my house before it is night again. Repeat. There is very little progress to be made. Once you clear your mine and there is not any location for them to get into the mine, then they shouldn't be able to spawn there. I can understand if they activately dug holes and tried to get into your mine, but right now they just randomly spawn without having to have access to the mine... which, IMO, is a "round about" way of doing it ;)
They should only be spawning in the lowest levels of the mine, as notch has been saying for weeks that the closer you get to bedrock the more precautions you'll have to take. Specifically, he said that more light than normal would be needed to prevent the spawning, but I don't know that he's actually implemented that yet; I think they just spawn when you're that deep regardless of light at this point (again: alpha build). When the update first went live people were apparently having things spawn right in their living rooms, which I believe was fixed in one of the small after-updates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timman_24
I haven't had nearly the amount of mine-spawning problems that you're having. In three or four nights so far, I've had two enemies spawn down there and they were both on the same night. That was night two, which I think was actually the first night that the mine existed (since night one consisted of me actually digging the mine); afterwards, I threw up some more torches and haven't had any problems since (which admittedly could just be due to low sample size of only a few nights).
How deep is your moat? It might be possible to drown them.
I forgot we could do that - thanks guys :)Quote:
Originally Posted by taggart6
My mine is literally crawling with guys. They spawn low and go up my stairs into my house. I came in for the night and was greeted by 2 guys waiting in my house (my house has a entrance to the mine) which promptly WTFpwned me because I had 2 hearts. I need to put a door on my mine entrance, but still. In my mine I had 4 creepers, 6 blobs of goo, and 3 skeletons. I cleared them and the sun started to come up. I'm afraid to leave my mine because I don't want to come back and it be full again :(Quote:
Originally Posted by monroeski
Now I'm scared to log back into my SP game. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Timman_24
I ran into a similiar issue with my base. However, I have a garden with moat installed for wood and food so I just farm that at night as well as a massive lit cavern my house is connected to.
I'm going to work on a trap to farm MOBS and see how that goes. If it all works out well....loot will float into my base through an underground stream.
Just played through three more nights. No mobs at all in my mine. That first night seems to be the anomaly in my case.
Maybe after the patch it initially filled every area with mobs. I have quite a large dungeon maybe after the initial clearing they won't come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by monroeski
I haven't found any monsters inside my house yet.
I found mine full of TNT!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kamakazie
Well, ok, so I put the TNT there.
And ok, so I launched myself 50 meters and became dead and blew up half the mountain.
is the update supposed to wipe all your old maps?
No. In fact, Notch has specifically stated otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by kpxgq
Sorry I haven't been around on the server, I've been sick. Sleeping has taken priority over minecraft.
I did briefly log into my SP map yesterday. Found a nest of spiders in my staging area at the bottom of my map. So I guess it really doesn't matter about torches. (I have one torch every 2x2 square block on the floor, and on the ceilings via dropped down blocks, and all along the walls). Despite all of that light, plus several pools of lava under glass providing light, I had spiders and zombies throughout the staging area. Kill 3 zombies and 5 spiders, and logged out. I'll log back in and see if anything has re-spawned sometime soon.
Found random mobs in my mine that was cleared. At night, I'm getting a swarm of guys coming up to my house.
Built my first portal to the slip...and it lands me on a piece of land 20 by 20 located right in the middle of a lava pit 40 blocks high. ***?
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ez4ak6.jpg
Fire traps work the best, imo. Put some around your house instead of the moat and the mobs run into it and die.
If you don't want mobs coming up from mines into your house, get rid of the stairs and put a ladder going all the way down from house to mines.
Or use doors.
ugg can't figure out a drowning trap
I spent a lot of time on one and then gave it up in the end because it never worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by taggart6
I started up a new post-update single player world yesterday. Found a skeleton in a little dark spot not far from my door after the first night, which I managed to take out (the sun did some of the work once I lured him out far enough) although I did lose most of my health. Then I went and farmed some pigs for ham, and I was on my way back to base to stick them in the furnace for better health gain, and of course I died (had 1/2 heart left) jumping down about 3 blocks.
Stupid multiplayer and it's no-penalty-for-jumping. :p
Now that I've been down to the Nether a bit I think I'm just going to make a solid wall of Netherstone and light it on fire to make a border around my place.Quote:
Originally Posted by LiquidCrash
You guys are crazy. I have a door and a fence. Completely safe! :D
That is the most boring thing I've ever heard. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kamakazie
I like a basic trench because it doesn't require any crafting like a fence does (though I know even that's not all that much), and if I actually need some monster items I can go kill them off to harvest them. I also prefer a huge wall of fire because it's a huge wall of fire.
Also, notch mentioned the below on Twitter I think, I can't actually access that site right now -
I still like the massive spawn amounts above ground, but I agree that I could easily do without the mobs spawning in my mine if there's not enough light (though as I mentioned above I only had it happen once). One problem I've discovered with the mobs spawning so numerously above ground, though - since the watch doesn't work in the Nether, if you build a new portal down there you'll never know if you're about to come back up to the overworld in the middle of a death trap. It would be wise to make a chest in the Nether before you head up if you planned on bringing back anything valuable.Quote:
Originally Posted by notch
Hmmm I think the world generator is a little messed up now. I just created a new game and have floating land right next to my spawn point:
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3001/minecrafto.png
Also, I REALLY think he needs to add some variables options in for players to choose. A slider for day/night length, monster density, and preferred biome would be really nice (I want my days longer!!!)