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10-24-2007, 12:39 PM
spamjedi

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Originally Posted by Soul Assassin

it is to me, i'm a math moron... literally.

so whatever points you think INDY will score, minus 7 and if the result is 7 or higher than 7 then they beat the spread right?

I dont know, whatever, I stick with those picks...

ok just do me a favor. List the teams you are picking

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DETROIT will win by less than 5...

so in this case just put Chicago. I'm not going to clean up or format anyone's picks, it takes enough time to put this together as it is.
10-24-2007, 12:54 PM
Spank_Me_Hard

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Originally Posted by md1198p

I always thought the other way around...your run D will look great when you have a lead all the time because the other team does not run.

This is only true when the lead is so great, or it is so late in the game that the other team HAS to basically abandon the run.

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But your passing D, even if its pretty good, will take a bit of a hit because the other team will throw almost every down because they need to catch up.

I understand the thought process. But I think the much bigger factor is the disadvantage of having to throw and the other team KNOWS it. This is HUGE.

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The passing stats will be inflated due to the sheer number of pass attempts.

I don't think so. There will be more sacks (D line can basically just rush the passer every down), and more interceptions (safeties no longer have to honour the run, and can just sit back). Total passing yards goes up... but I think that percentages, TD/INT ratio, and sacks (and turnovers from sacks) suffer.

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I think the reason there D looks better is just because it is. They are much faster this year, and speed is the most important attibute in the Tampa 2 defense that they use.

I don't see how they're so much "faster". They basically have the same personel... minus a few guys like Cato June.

Until I see them in a tight game... I give their D no credit at all. They've had the luxury all season of basically being able to play othwer teams in one dimension (limiting them to passing games).

NE has all the firepower in the world to keep up with Indy this time. And NE's D has been historically good... especially at confusing Peyton. My money is on the Pats undressing the Colts.
10-24-2007, 12:56 PM
Mindwarper

I'll get my picks in this week that include the spread. The football season is now in full swing. We are no longer hearing about vick, steriods, owens, or moss. Aging QB's are invogue. But Green has probably played his last down. Kimmel was the best part of MNF in a long time. Good Times!!!!
10-24-2007, 01:02 PM
Spank_Me_Hard

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Originally Posted by spamjedi

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 8

St. Louis
Chicago
Indianapolis
New York Giants
Oakland
Philadelphia
Cinncinati
Buffalo
San Diego
Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Washington
Denver
10-24-2007, 02:25 PM
monroeski

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Originally Posted by spamjedi

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 8

Cleveland
Detroit
Indy
NY
Tennessee
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
Buffalo
Houston
Tampa Bay
San Francisco
New England
Green Bay

I am not confident in these picks at all, for some reason. Wouldn't be surprised if I miss a ton.
10-24-2007, 03:37 PM
MrDigital

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Originally Posted by spamjedi

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 8

St. Louis
Detroit
Carolina
NY Giants
Tennessee
Minnesota
Pittsburg
NY Jets
San Diego
Jacksonville
San Francisco
Washington
Green Bay
10-24-2007, 03:38 PM
MrDigital

I took the underdog in quite a few, but I'm just not sure about the spreads.
10-24-2007, 03:57 PM
spamjedi

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Originally Posted by spamjedi

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 8

Cleveland
Detroit
Indianapolis
NY Giants
Tennessee
Minnesota
Cincinnati
Buffalo
Houston
Tampa Bay
New Orleans
Washington
Denver

I dont like this week at all. I'm actually picking against NE! Oh well I'm in last place anyway ;)
10-24-2007, 04:03 PM
DJBeanPole17

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Originally Posted by spamjedi

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 8

St. Louis
Detroit
Indianapolis
Giants
Tennessee
Philadelphia
Pittsburgh
Jets
San Diego
Jacksonville
New Orleans
New England
Green Bay

:eek:
10-24-2007, 08:28 PM
Soul Assassin

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Originally Posted by spamjedi

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 8

dont know that color, so oh well lol.

CLEVELAND
DETROIT
INDIANAPOLIS
NEW YORK GIANTS
TENNESSEE
PHILADELPHIA
PITTSBURGH
BUFFALO
SAN DIEGO
TAMPA BAY
SAN FRANCISCO
NEW ENGLAND
GREEN BAY
10-25-2007, 12:22 AM
r'aggro

Quote:

Originally Posted by spamjedi
Sharky Pick 'em For Week 8

Cleveland
Detroit
Indianapolis
NY Giants
Oakland
Minnesota
Cincinnati
Buffalo
San Diego
Tampa Bay
San Francisco
Washington
Denver

I'm just going to keep on picking Detroit.
10-25-2007, 12:38 AM
PriMaTe

I'm a little late but.........

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Originally Posted by fastitocalon

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 8

Cleveland
Detroit
Indianapolis
NY Giants
Tennessee
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
NY Jets
San Diego
Jacksonville
New Orleans
New England

Green Bay
10-25-2007, 12:44 AM
md1198p

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This is only true when the lead is so great, or it is so late in the game that the other team HAS to basically abandon the run.

I understand the thought process. But I think the much bigger factor is the disadvantage of having to throw and the other team KNOWS it. This is HUGE.

I don't think so. There will be more sacks (D line can basically just rush the passer every down), and more interceptions (safeties no longer have to honour the run, and can just sit back). Total passing yards goes up... but I think that percentages, TD/INT ratio, and sacks (and turnovers from sacks) suffer..

But when passing offenses and pass defenses are "ranked" they only go by yards, not effiency. I agree it will not be effective if you throw a ton and the other team knows it, but you will rack up yards, thereby ranking high in "passing".

I agree about all the sacks and stuff. As a matter of fact, I used this exact arguement in defending Mcnabb, and you disagreed that the pass rush would be more effective if the other teams passes a lot and the defense expects it. I will look later, and copy and paste the relevant passages.

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I don't see how they're so much "faster". They basically have the same personel... minus a few guys like Cato June.

They have 4 new starters on defense, 2 new corners. In the base Tampa 2 the corners hae a very big responsability in run defense in keeping contain and turning all runs into the middle or making tackles on the outside. More that any other sceme IMO, corners in the Cover 2 need to be good run defenders.

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Until I see them in a tight game... I give their D no credit at all. They've had the luxury all season of basically being able to play othwer teams in one dimension (limiting them to passing games).

One could say the same thing about new England. They have led practically every minute of the season. They are just as untested. More I think. Indy just easily beat a team that historically has given the a lot of problems.
10-25-2007, 03:31 AM
Gar

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Originally Posted by spamjedi

Sharky Pick 'em For Week 8

St. Louis
Detroit
Carolina
Miami
Oakland
Minnesota
Pittsburgh
Buffalo
San Diego
Jacksonville
New Orleans
New England
Green Bay

Me picking my Raiders to win is horrible luck, I'm sure that alone will cause them to lose by 30 lol.
10-25-2007, 03:37 AM
rabidmoose171

Indy has played against teams that actually have a collective winning record, while the patriots have played against teams with a dismal sub .500 record, I think its something like 17-21 overall.

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