Thats what I was trying to get at, instead of keeping all the starters in, and going for it on 4th down, when they could have just settled for 2 field goals in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Thats what I was trying to get at, instead of keeping all the starters in, and going for it on 4th down, when they could have just settled for 2 field goals in a row.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spaceman Spiff
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Originally Posted by ksuohio
1) You could also see running up the score as an intimidation factor that would scare future teams. They might play nervously knowing the last few teams lost by over 30 points. It may anger some players/teams, it may intimidate others or at least creep into their subconscious. I don't think it's a clear pro or con.
2) As for the rareness of a 30+ point comeback, I agree, the odds are ridiculously small. However, when there are literally millions of dollars on the line, given the amount of money the NFL brings in, for any game, it's simply not worth the risk. Granted, that doesn't apply if you're up by 35 with 5 minutes left and decide to go for it on 4th down (making up an example), but I think most of the time teams err on the side of maybe running the score up a little just to be safe.
All this being said, I think it's a little slimy that the Pats run up the score so much. It doesn't seem necessary or worth the risks. On the other hand, I also thought the negative press they got in the beginning of the year was over the top as well. There are a lot of different views you could take with this one. Hell of a lot of fun to watch, unless you're rooting for the opponent...
Because you didn't quote the header like thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Mindwarper
so I missed it when I was scrolling through. I added you to the results post, you got 6 so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by spamjedi
I'm starting to agree with this. At first I didn't like it, but you know what? If people want to put an asterix by their achievements because of the video tape stuff, I can't blame them for steam rolling everyone to make the point that it may not have had a large effect on what they've accomplished.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDigital
I mean going for it on 4th down when you're already up 20+ points late in the game is kind of over kill, but hey, if you don't like it, stop 'em.
I agree with this and would also like to point out that these guys are millionaires. They are professional athletes who get paid obscene amounts of money. I would gladly get rolled by 100 every game and go 0-16 for the league minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by spamjedi
I don't care if they want to run up the score. If you could dominate a team like they have been doing who wouldn't enjoy doing it. Obviously NE enjoys doing it.
The only issue is that they might end up getting one of their playmakers hurt when they have a 4 td lead.
I think that they are trying to prove that they are without a doubt the best team of all time.
NE goes undefeated, INDY's only shot was at home and they went off half cocked and left harrison on the bench... after docs and harrison said he was good to go, now they have to face NE in NE...yeah, go armwrestle the devil in his house and see how it works out.... INDY FTL
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Originally Posted by rabidmoose171
tell me dude, is it true that if you're gonna play in texas you gotta have a fiddle in the band?
It kinda sucks that the result of the 'Bowl this year is already a forgone conclusion. The Vegas line on the Bowl starts with spotting Dallas 15 points against NE, and gets worse from there.
I'm not scared of a playoff matchup against any nfc team. Well, maybe a little scared of playing in Lambeau.;) But it really doesn't matter whether Seattle gets to Arizona or not, or Dallas, Detroit, GB or TB or NYG. Any one of us is going to get pummeled, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.
NE is the yankees of football.... sorta, only they don't just throw money at big names, but they get the big names because the big names want a championship and will take a big pay cut to get one.
That's a gross distortion. The patriots work within a very rigid salary cap structure. Sure Moss took a discount to play for the patriots, but if you look, there aren't a lot of players that will get a ton of money on the open market. Their leading rusher through the first 7 games was sammy morris, who few people took an interest in when he was a free agent. I think it is more that the Pat's have been very, very prudent in how they spend their money and how they draft. The cornerstone of the team, brady, was a 6th round draft pick. I think it is more about the coaching and the system than standout talents playing for less. Moss is a big exception, but wes welker wasn't exactly a hot commodity (the pats traded for him) and stallworth didn't take a pay cut to get to NE.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
I just realized that the Patriots have the 49er's first round pick this year. That means they're potentially sitting on a top 3 pick in the draft. :eek:
Especially since they're going to have to give up their own first round pick or something due to that hoopla at the beginning of the year.
harbinger, moss took a pay cut to get a ring.... they sign a lot of big names, adelius thomas, junior seau, rodney harrison, stallworth (after philly), welker was an in demand return guy and after his pass catching skills were showcased in miami he became in demand as a slot guy.... they do an awesome job of grabbing talent, their front office is the best in the business...
Until this year, though, they didn't really sign any big names that anyone else wanted to bother with (where the heck else would Seau have gone?), except maybe Harrison. Moss, Thomas, Stallworth, and Welker were all this year, and Seau was "washed up" at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox