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hmm what were you at with the 8 points shy of 29k? and what temps? try playign around with TrefQuote:
Originally posted by ewitte
If it were not for heat I could have got that 2.75Ghz stable :D A few of the tests ran but they eventually kept crashing out. The test above was 2.63Ghz. If temperature was controlled how bad would 1.8v be on a 1.55v stock A64? I was over 60C again with 1.72v. I'm skipping on the Vapo. Too much money. I might just do water right and ditch the cheapo kit. Using a heater core, swiftech 6002 waterblock and 1/2" tubes :D
Eric
a good water setup will probably be less than a kit, depending on which kit you were getting, and it will certainly perform better... just don't start spending too much money or it will be better just to get a used Mach I.Quote:
Originally posted by ewitte
If it were not for heat I could have got that 2.75Ghz stable :D A few of the tests ran but they eventually kept crashing out. The test above was 2.63Ghz. If temperature was controlled how bad would 1.8v be on a 1.55v stock A64? I was over 60C again with 1.72v. I'm skipping on the Vapo. Too much money. I might just do water right and ditch the cheapo kit. Using a heater core, swiftech 6002 waterblock and 1/2" tubes :D
Eric
on a strong water loop you will be thermally ok to run 1.8v but personally i didn't see any gain from anything above 1.75v or so until i got down below 0C.
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Originally posted by speed freak
if you would like, I can host the 3DMark team...
just lmk
I appreciate it but it's under control.:) Just a little problem with the last web host and their security and responsiveness to a script kiddie.
It's all up and running on the new host now and I'm simply waiting for DNS to change. That's why we can't update.
I'm gonna give it 3 days just to be sure.
If anyone cares, the old host was www.hostony.com and the new host is www.hostexcellence.com :)
I was at 2.63Ghz. I'm not sure exactly. It was about 60-62C. About what I ran before the water. Thing is I needed a few more volts. Whats the best Tref. I had it set to 166 1.95 at one time. I'm not sure how much of a difference it made.Quote:
Originally posted by flutie98
hmm what were you at with the 8 points shy of 29k? and what temps? try playign around with Tref
Eric
Not too much. I'm looking at this. Its close to just a modified Chevette heater core. So aboutQuote:
Originally posted by eshbach
a good water setup will probably be less than a kit, depending on which kit you were getting, and it will certainly perform better... just don't start spending too much money or it will be better just to get a used Mach I.
on a strong water loop you will be thermally ok to run 1.8v but personally i didn't see any gain from anything above 1.75v or so until i got down below 0C.
$45 heater core
$45 water block
$40 pump (only thing I found quiet enough was Hydor L20 or Eheim 1048)
+ probably $50 for the tubing, reservoir and accessories.
~ $190-200
I'm hoping to try to keep it below 25dba but the pumps don't all really list that specification :) I'll keep the NV5 for the video card. It actually runs lower now with cooler case temps anyway. It was sitting at 49C yesterday morning (51C now with the heater on)! And thats with a volt modded BIOS.
I'm approaching stable at 2.75Ghz 1.72v. Do you think it would gain anything going to 1.8? I guess all I can do is try once I can.
Eric
there is no set value iirc thats the "best" just simply fidel around with it and see what happensQuote:
Originally posted by ewitte
Whats the best Tref. I had it set to 166 1.95 at one time. I'm not sure how much of a difference it made.
Eric
that setup looks ok except the heater core is a rip... you can pick up a 2x120 bonneville core at your local auto zone for $20.Quote:
Originally posted by ewitte
Not too much. I'm looking at this. Its close to just a modified Chevette heater core. So about
$45 heater core
$45 water block
$40 pump (only thing I found quiet enough was Hydor L20 or Eheim 1048)
+ probably $50 for the tubing, reservoir and accessories.
~ $190-200
I'm hoping to try to keep it below 25dba but the pumps don't all really list that specification :) I'll keep the NV5 for the video card. It actually runs lower now with cooler case temps anyway. It was sitting at 49C yesterday morning (51C now with the heater on)! And thats with a volt modded BIOS.
I'm approaching stable at 2.75Ghz 1.72v. Do you think it would gain anything going to 1.8? I guess all I can do is try once I can.
Eric
Except that I can't weld and that is the price with the shroud ;) Any ideas about using two of these in series (one behind the CPU, one after)?Quote:
Originally posted by eshbach
that setup looks ok except the heater core is a rip... you can pick up a 2x120 bonneville core at your local auto zone for $20.
Eric
why would you need to weld?Quote:
Originally posted by ewitte
Except that I can't weld and that is the price with the shroud ;)
and lexan shrouds will take 2 hours of your life and cost $3...
Something I heard from somewhere in reguards to attaching the barbs. What about needing a hacksaw? I'll take a risk. It looks like a better heater core. Definately saves money since I was considering two of the above. Any specific type of Bonnyville heater core? 1977? Why is autozone so cheap? I found some listed for about $65 on the net. Total is nowQuote:
Originally posted by eshbach
why would you need to weld?
and lexan shrouds will take 2 hours of your life and cost $3...
$20 heater core
$75 two smaller quiet pumps in series
$45 Swiftech 6002-a64
$40? accessories
~ $180
Eric
one eheim 1048 is going to be plenty, you don't need two pumps in series.Quote:
Originally posted by ewitte
Something I heard from somewhere in reguards to attaching the barbs. What about needing a hacksaw? I'll take a risk. It looks like a better heater core. Definately saves money since I was considering two of the above. Any specific type of Bonnyville heater core? 1977? Why is autozone so cheap? I found some listed for about $65 on the net. Total is now
$20 heater core
$75 two smaller quiet pumps in series
$45 Swiftech 6002-a64
$40? accessories
~ $180
Eric
you can do it with a hacksaw, but honestly, i didn't. i have set up two of these for other people and i only used a hacksaw on one.
you'll need to buy some 1" tubing and a tube of marine goop as well as 4 hose clamps that can fit over the 1" (and make sure you regular tubing can fit inside the 1" comfortably, if not you'll need to get bigger than 1").
One 1048. I'm looking at these . Is 1" tubing going to easily work with the rest of the system?Quote:
Originally posted by eshbach
one eheim 1048 is going to be plenty, you don't need two pumps in series.
you can do it with a hacksaw, but honestly, i didn't. i have set up two of these for other people and i only used a hacksaw on one.
you'll need to buy some 1" tubing and a tube of marine goop as well as 4 hose clamps that can fit over the 1" (and make sure you regular tubing can fit inside the 1" comfortably, if not you'll need to get bigger than 1").
Eric
the 1" won't be in any way connected to your system. it is used for making adaptors for the bonneville core.Quote:
Originally posted by ewitte
One 1048. I'm looking at these . Is 1" tubing going to easily work with the rest of the system?
Eric
and i really don't know how that pump compares, sorry.
Any links? Which Bonneville heater core?Quote:
Originally posted by eshbach
the 1" won't be in any way connected to your system. it is used for making adaptors for the bonneville core.
and i really don't know how that pump compares, sorry.
Eric
'77 bonneville core with AC.Quote:
Originally posted by ewitte
Any links? Which Bonneville heater core?
Eric
and i'll post a pic of mine:
http://img216.exs.cx/img216/872/random0064eq.jpg
So.Quote:
Originally posted by eshbach
[B]'77 bonneville core with AC.
and i'll post a pic of mine:
1" tube over the Bonneville cap, marine goop the 1/2" tube inside and then clamp all 3 together?
yepQuote:
Originally posted by ewitte
So.
1" tube over the Bonneville cap, marine goop the 1/2" tube inside and then clamp all 3 together?
:)
goop on the outside of the bonneville core pipe too, just for safety.
Not a bad price. Picked one up for $18+tax. Makes me wonder about that $100 black ice extreme II :eek: Have any tips on making the shroud?Quote:
Originally posted by eshbach
yep
:)
goop on the outside of the bonneville core pipe too, just for safety.
Eric
get some ~1/8" lexan from home depot. and cut to shape basically.Quote:
Originally posted by ewitte
Not a bad price. Picked one up for $18+tax. Makes me wonder about that $100 black ice extreme II :eek: Have any tips on making the shroud?
Eric
you can use left over marine goop to hold things together :) it dries as hard plastic.
for pumps id look for somthing that has a bit higher head if your going for high performance, the Aqua extreme 50Z is really quiet and has a head of 10.5 ft
This is the info for the other one. Basically it has a head of about 6ft for a single pump or 12ft for 2 in series. Its from the site that sells the aqua extreme 50z, so I don't know why they would fudge it. VERY quiet. Its also not as bad if one dies.Quote:
Originally posted by flutie98
for pumps id look for somthing that has a bit higher head if your going for high performance, the Aqua extreme 50Z is really quiet and has a head of 10.5 ft
http://www.c-systems.ca/c_files/image16big.jpg
Quote:
Originally posted by rabidmoose171
Well, what video card was he using... probably a high end ati or a sli solution.
hmmmm I coulda sworn he got 40k on a single r520 :eek:
ummm the r520 isnt out...
tbird is referring to the mysterious "X950XT" that showed up on driver heaven a while back. There was a 40k+ run posted on an intel rig at only 4.3ghz (which normally wouldn't be enough for 40k).Quote:
Originally posted by rabidmoose171
ummm the r520 isnt out...