Grand Theft Auto makers sued over teenage killing

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Originally posted by Isezumi
Dude are you kidding, we stopped scraping barrel like 20 years ago...this is all dirt and rocks and stuff.

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The holocaust would suggest that it is more like 50 or so years since we stopped scraping. Although that's just one of the most recent examples, I have neither the time nor the inclination to scientifically study the exact moment when we scraped through the bottom covering of the barrel.



On a serious note:
This is a frivilous lawsuit that will go nowhere, just like the others of its kind. It only serves to parade headlines for lobbyists who want to keep their topic relevant. Call me crazy but I bet UK law won't hold a video game maker responsible in any way for a person committing murder. There's just no reasonable liability.

damn politicians

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Originally posted by Kung_Fu_Fighter
Now the war on terror is a whole nuther can of worms. You don't just stand by and let another country do that to you or we would really be walked all over.

I would not say our society is completely screwed. Deffinatelly have some problems but not doom and gloom time yet.

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It doesn't go with me. The US went into Iraq with the excuse of "Weapons of Mass Destruction." It moved away from the whole "War on Terror" deal. Also, I recommend taking a look at the patriot act and see some of your liberties taken from you, I feel it's unconstitutional. Where the hell are these "Weapons of Mass Destruction?" I have yet to see any reputable evidence that they exist. And now the government is saying well he was a tirant and he shouldn't be in power. Two things about that statement: 1. The US supported him being in power and 2. If your going to use that excuse what about every other tirant in the world?? That excuse just doesn't fly with me to be honest. As for our society being screwed I was a bit hasty but hey I see it in the news all the time :p . God damn news feeding me spoon fulls of crap every night. I'll stick to Adult Swim and the daily show, atleast they make me laugh.

Punk *** kids, killing people for no reason, and then blamming video games. My other problem is these two kids who are both under age are gonna go to a "youth correctional facility" and be released with pretty much a clean slate when they turn 18-19 years old. Also, I can't stress this enough, where in all of hell were the parents during all this. When the parents found out and told people they had no idea, either A. THEY ARE LYING TO COVER THEIR OWN A$$ or B. They shouldn't be parents.

Interesting Race observation here (Take this with a grain of sault if you want): Everywhere I look there are shows and news broadcasts making minority people seem bad, and yet all the worst crimes in the last 10+ years have been commited by the white caucasian(no clue if that's spelled right) male/female.
-School shootings: primarily white male teenagers.
-These guys that did this I can bet my life on are white males.
-A few years back the woman that drowned her kids in her car said that an African American man stole her car and killed her children and everyone bought it, for a while.
-A man killed his wife a few years back and said they were mugged by an African American man and people bought that too.
You see a trend here... I mean that spoon full of crap I'm telling you the news and reality TV feeds us is just that crap.

Ok sorry that was my little rant and one person made a great observation saying that these kids do this because they know they can get away with it. It's like the little kid that jumps on the bed and no one tells him it's wrong, until he gets hurt or hurts someone else.

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Originally posted by Mr. Sleep
Simple. Despite being a very profitable sector of the entertainment industry, the videogame industry does not have the established Washington D.C. clout to combat **** like this. Combined with the general public's ignorance about videogames (especially the notion that they're designed exclusively for kids, which makes videogame violence, to them, all the more atrocious) you have a bunch of lawsuits waiting to happen when some dunderheaded asshole decides to take a shotgun to a teacher and blow his brains out. And the lawyers, parents, and perpetrators themselves know that by instantly accusing videogames of brainwashing, their case will be able to feed on public hysteria and grow bigger and bigger.

Sickening, is what it is.

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Fortunately, the Interactive Digital Software Association (IDSA), led by Doug Lowenstein (President), has been fighting these frivolus lawsutis for years and has been quite successful. They have also argued successfully that computer games deserve First Amendment protection as free speech and have urged retailers and parents to "check the (ESRB) ratings" and keep M rated games out of kid's hands.

Are the families (and their lawyers) going to argue that Take-Two put the guns in the kids' hands? If they feel the need to blame someone they should go after the kids' parents who left the guns where the kids could access them.

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Originally posted by Nabby
It doesn't go with me. The US went into Iraq with the excuse of "Weapons of Mass Destruction." It moved away from the whole "War on Terror" deal. Also, I recommend taking a look at the patriot act and see some of your liberties taken from you, I feel it's unconstitutional. Where the hell are these "Weapons of Mass Destruction?" I have yet to see any reputable evidence that they exist. And now the government is saying well he was a tirant and he shouldn't be in power.

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Iraq already admitted to developing nuclear weapons earlier. I don't think they would just stop developing them. Another point. If there were no WMD's Saddam could have just cooperated fully and we would have had no basis for the war.

I don't think we moved away from the whole war on terror thing. That's why we didn't want him to have those weapons.

The patriot act is being revised or thrown out.

Your right, there are a lot of other dictators out there but we don't have time or the resourses or the motive to go after them all. Knocking down the Towers sort of moves you up on the list.

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Originally posted by Kung_Fu_Fighter
Iraq already admitted to developing nuclear weapons earlier. I don't think they would just stop developing them. Another point. If there were no WMD's Saddam could have just cooperated fully and we would have had no basis for the war.

I don't think we moved away from the whole war on terror thing. That's why we didn't want him to have those weapons.

The patriot act is being revised or thrown out.

Your right, there are a lot of other dictators out there but we don't have time or the resourses or the motive to go after them all. Knocking down the Towers sort of moves you up on the list.

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Well apperantly Iraq was cooperating with weapons inspectors but there were some "inconviniences" or so they said. The US was just angry that Saddam wasn't going to be a good puppet president so they kicked him out of office. Take Cuba for example, the US tried to get rid of castro but it was a big disaster, Bay of Pigs, even though the US brought him into power.

I'm just saying that the US is a bit too involved in other countries governments. The US has been very active in foreign governments since they let WWI and WWII slide out of their hands. I say be involved to a certain extent but don't overthrow an entire government just because terrorists attacked the US.

The way the world is now, if one country started going mad and taking over other countries with the threat of nuclear weapons the world would come down on top of them. As far as I know Saddam never did anything like this, sure he wasn't fair to his people but if the people don't like it there is civil war to turn to. Why does the US feel the need to be big brother to the world? It's ok to a certain extent but it gets out of hand fast.

I don't think U.S. always wants to be big brother to the world. They are expected to be. If we were to pull out our finacial aid and food we send to many countries world wide people would freak out. It has to work both ways doesn't it?

Please guys stay on topic. This thread has nothing to do with Iraq!

I agree though, go after the parents. Guns were accessible and they let the kids play the game in the first place. Anyways, this won't see the light of day.

Yep, this is what happens when parents don`t supervise(sp) their children and let them run loose and do whatever they want too.

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Originally posted by bfore13
They have also argued successfully that computer games deserve First Amendment protection as free speech and have urged retailers and parents to "check the (ESRB) ratings" and keep M rated games out of kid's hands.

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I work over at circuit city and I personally don't let anyone buy a M rated game unless they are of age.

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Originally posted by Kung_Fu_Fighter

Your right, there are a lot of other dictators out there but we don't have time or the resourses or the motive to go after them all. Knocking down the Towers sort of moves you up on the list.

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Saddam knocked down the Towers? When was this?

"Both boys were fans of the video game Doom, which has been used to train US soldiers in lethal combat."

Er..***? Yeah...the BFG is definatelly the prefered primary weapon of choice in the US marines.

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Originally posted by bamb00
"Both boys were fans of the video game Doom, which has been used to train US soldiers in lethal combat."

Er..***? Yeah...the BFG is definatelly the prefered primary weapon of choice in the US marines.

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Ahahahahah, OMG I didn't even catch that part. How the hell can you train soldiers with a game as "realistic" :p as Doom. Anyways yeah I'll stay on topic now :). Got a bit outa hand there, but talking about violence led from one thing to another.

Actually that's a misqoute. The military uses contemporary vidio game simulators for the soldiers the same as the Air Force uses contemporary flight sims to train pilots.

That doesn't mean that there's a connection to kids and vidio game violence however.

If anything the parents should be sued. Oh and ROFL about the bfg comment.