LoL a mmo'er complaining about someone playing a game all the time.
Oh well, luckily its my 15 a month, so I can play how I want. ;)
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LoL a mmo'er complaining about someone playing a game all the time.
Oh well, luckily its my 15 a month, so I can play how I want. ;)
To your question I've started playing MMO's when they were still MUD's that were on BBS's, maybe that just makes me old?!? As for the controls they are highly customizable and make gameplay very smooth once you learn them. The content is abolutly endless, they are constantly updating and adding stuff. The graphics are top notch. The customer service is fine the post about having to buy a new cd is BS they will delete inactive chars after 3months but he would not need a new CD Key. Boring?!? Any MMO is only as fun as the person playing it. I do enjoy the game as do many other people look at the numbers, and I would never put in the same leauge as EQ or WOW it belongs in the pros and those games are the minor leauge. I do have some loyalty to Square they have put out some of the best RPG games out there to date I enjoy the storyline and gameplay. Blizzard Has my money everytime they make a game starcraft and warcraft are in a class of their own for RTS games WOW is W3 zoomed in and if you enjoy W3 then you would probably like WOW I will play it. SOE Well I played all of their games at one point in time but planetside was the worst it was a great game but the online code had way to many problems and SOE really did nothing to try and fix it. So yes that is my opinion for whatever its worth.Quote:
Originally posted by OpStar
That's your opinion. I've played a lot of MMO's, have you?
FFXI's main problem is it control scheme, but there are a lot more, including the fact that its boring.
I'm glad you enjoy it, but please don't try to put it in leauge with EQ2 or WoW.
HAHAHAHAHA.
EQ is the minor leagues?
In MMO's you have three great franchises:
Lineage, EverQuest and Ultima Online.
Lineage = MILLIONS of people play it.
EverQuest = 5+ years
Ultima Online = The original
I'm sorry, but FFXI doesn't even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with those three franchises.
Opstar hit the nail on the head pretty much.
Although me personally, I wouldn't rank Lineage up there with EQ and UO. Sure its got a ton of subscribers, but you take away all the people that play it in computer cafes over in Korea and that takes a huge chunk of the population away.
I imagine if every cafe in the US offerend the chance to play WoW or EQ2 the server pops would be huge as well ;)
True, but based on number of players it at least deserves a mention :)
I duel boxed in eq for a bit mainly because I did not want to spend over an hour looking for a group every night. It was much easier to get my cleric and warrior and go get some exp that way. (edit: I should mention that getting a group for the cleric actually usually took like 5 minutes hehe, but i wanted to play my warrior mainly) I usually would put one or both on lfg (looking for group) and when i got a tell for a group i would log one out and join the group. Also when I played with friends and if we were short a healer or a tank (the person who gets beat on by the mob), I would duel box then too. (when you play the tank and healer you better be paying attention all the time! hehe) I got burnt out of duel boxing after a while though and decided to just stick with one char. But there were some people who duel boxed just to pl one of their chars up etc and some people that were lame too.Quote:
Originally posted by BremenCulhaven
Typically double boxing is lame, why? Because many that do it are greedy farmers. It also detracts from the realness of the game, by one person having two personalities at one time. Not to mention the social aspect of the game that is what a MMORPG is after all and boxers I guess are introverts that only like to play with themselves...sigh...
Epecially some people who had like 6+ accounts and made their own group and stuck with themselves, which I thought was really odd considering it kinda ruined the point of playing an online game
EQ2 is very graphic intensive actually. Check to make sure that your graphics card is supported or else you might not be able to play the game. (Quite a few graphics cards on laptops arent)Quote:
Originally posted by Boneycat
Oh and one last thing. I'd like to know how video intensive these games are. I want to be able to play it on my cheap Toshiba laptop which has the following specs: 2.0 celly, 512 2100 ram, intergrated vid ram intel chipset. Buying another laptop just to be able to play one of these games is not an option. Thanks for any and all input.
WoW for me.. I love the warcraft universe. EQ2 is decent but needs alot more work than what I seen.
alright can we go a little more in depth here with the comparison??? I'm trying to decide between the two and since I aven't really seen much of either I have no idea what to go with.
I'm a casual gamer, and the main reason I play these MMORPG is to hunt in groups and play online with friends. I'm not into the grind AT ALL. I'd rather go out and do a bunch of adventures designed for my x level character, and when I get better, go to other quests designed for my x +1 level character.
EQ2 is absolutely like that. You described the gameplay to a T.Quote:
Originally posted by Paladyr
alright can we go a little more in depth here with the comparison??? I'm trying to decide between the two and since I aven't really seen much of either I have no idea what to go with.
I'm a casual gamer, and the main reason I play these MMORPG is to hunt in groups and play online with friends. I'm not into the grind AT ALL. I'd rather go out and do a bunch of adventures designed for my x level character, and when I get better, go to other quests designed for my x +1 level character.
WoW is alot more solo oriented. You can solo most things you really only need to group up for instances and perhaps a few quests, most are doable solo though depending on your level. At the level cap you'll see alot more grouping though since you'll be doing alot of pvp (optional but will have rewards for doing it), raid content and instances for dungeons. The leveling rate imo is very good for a casual player but could be considered fast if you plan to play 24/7. The first level 60 char on beta 2 was hit about 2 and a half weeks after the server went up. A casual player will probably take 4-6 months if they average 10-15 hours per week since they won't be grinding most likely like the hard core power gamers. I hit level 32 in the stress test because I played alot to get it in while I could and I believe I only had to grind 17-18 and 31-32 since I didn't want to travel for quests my level and needed a level 32 weapon upgrade to be able to do some quests I had waiting for me in the area I was at. The big gripe people who like to group have is that you level faster solo in most cases because when you group the xp gets split between you so you kill a bit faster but lose out on some xp when your grouped. 2 people you get half xp each, 3 people you get 1/3 xp each etc, 5 man groups are the biggest you can get for xp. There are raid groups but the xp is only split between your group for any mobs your group kills. Anyway hope this helped a little.Quote:
Originally posted by Paladyr
alright can we go a little more in depth here with the comparison??? I'm trying to decide between the two and since I aven't really seen much of either I have no idea what to go with.
I'm a casual gamer, and the main reason I play these MMORPG is to hunt in groups and play online with friends. I'm not into the grind AT ALL. I'd rather go out and do a bunch of adventures designed for my x level character, and when I get better, go to other quests designed for my x +1 level character.
Thanks OP! Looks like we'll be getting EQ2!!!! I can't wait :). Is there an official release date?Quote:
Originally posted by OpStar
EQ2 is absolutely like that. You described the gameplay to a T.
Ships November 8th, in stores the 9th.Quote:
Originally posted by Paladyr
Thanks OP! Looks like we'll be getting EQ2!!!! I can't wait :). Is there an official release date?
I'm hoping the Sharks mostly agree on the same server, it'd be cool to play together, especially in the early levels.
For sure! When the game finally comes out, everyone should post what servers they're on.Quote:
Originally posted by OpStar
Ships November 8th, in stores the 9th.
I'm hoping the Sharks mostly agree on the same server, it'd be cool to play together, especially in the early levels.
Sounds like wow open beta is coming soon :D
Actually its another Stress Test...I wouldn't count on that being the same as Open Beta, unless everyone that applies gets in. (The last Stress Test, not everyone got in).
Also I wander if the will go straight to retail after this Stress Test, or announce an Official Open Beta...I guess time will tell.
I think they are going to forgo the open beta and put in another stress like what we are doing in EQ2 right now to get it ready for retail, so they can release faster since EQ2 got the jump on them.Quote:
Originally posted by Gar
Actually its another Stress Test...I wouldn't count on that being the same as Open Beta, unless everyone that applies gets in. (The last Stress Test, not everyone got in).
Also I wander if the will go straight to retail after this Stress Test, or announce an Official Open Beta...I guess time will tell.
At least that's what they'd do if they were smart.
Why would they want to release it before it is ready like EQ 2 will be and get so many complaints for it not being ready?Quote:
Originally posted by OpStar
I think they are going to forgo the open beta and put in another stress like what we are doing in EQ2 right now to get it ready for retail, so they can release faster since EQ2 got the jump on them.
At least that's what they'd do if they were smart.
Because they are banking on that people will still pay to play, and I have a feeling they are right. The delays hurt them as well. Everyday that they are not up and ready cost them money. So they are willing to take the gamble.Quote:
Originally posted by Chompman
Why would they want to release it before it is ready like EQ 2 will be and get so many complaints for it not being ready?
EQ2 is far from not being ready.Quote:
Originally posted by Chompman
Why would they want to release it before it is ready like EQ 2 will be and get so many complaints for it not being ready?
What you have to consider is that in MMOs they are ever changing and they are never really finished.
Right now (as of yesterday's patches and the hotfixes) EQ2 is VERY playable.
All the core systems are in place, the crashes are down to a minimum.
So in the end for launch all you can hope for is stable servers and getting all the small crashes to a minimum, which is where EQ2 is now.
The class balances and other issues can be addressed as the game progresses.
Right now EQ2 is at least as stable as SWG is, less laggy, has more content and is very immersive and easy to pick up and play.
Waiting would do nothing but hurt them.
I guess I just like the idea of PvP in WoW.
I used to like PvP but SWG really soured me on it.
It has the worst PvP system ever.
PvP is only fun if its implemented right, if its not then it can really do more harm than good, IMO.Quote:
Originally posted by OpStar
I used to like PvP but SWG really soured me on it.
It has the worst PvP system ever.
I think WoW's system is headed in the right direction, with the honor system. That should cut down on alot of griefing and ganking, will be interesting to see how it plays out, I haven't really experienced anything like this new honor system before.
You would be suprised how many people PK just for kicks :( I quit D2 primarily becaus if I didn't play with my guild I really had to be worried about being PK'd or corpse bugged.
-tReP