Realistically? The exclusives from 1st parties. I'll buy one just for what Naughty Dog pumps out because it's the only place to play their games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skywize
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Realistically? The exclusives from 1st parties. I'll buy one just for what Naughty Dog pumps out because it's the only place to play their games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skywize
Why give you the WHOLE cow now when they can only give you a piece of the cow today and more of the cow at E3???Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnmcl7
I think hardcore gamers have a very different perspective than normal people or even industry people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timman_24
What you saw was a pure marketing presentation, and not a very good one. It was all about "play", "social", "connected", "synergy" blah, blah, blah. When they showed that video I literally threw my arms up in the air and said out loud, "What the **** is this?" It's like they tried to copy one of those Apple engineering hype videos, but mixed it with some weird art style. The audio wasn't even level. As someone who creates these things, it was embarrassing to watch. It didn't even make sense. I was thinking, "Did someone even read this script? When does this end?" It wasn't until after the presentation that there was any mention of the actual hardware, or who was going to make it.
They played a lot of videos. They said it was running on real hardware. Sony has a history of straight up ********ting this for both hardware and software releases. I really saw nothing that lead me to believe it wasn't just a bunch of CGI trailers one after another. AFAIK there isn't any actual hardware that comes close to the spec they mentioned. I can't open a dev kit up, but it appears to me to be generic components in an HTPC box. I'm pretty sure, but not positive, that the dev kits aren't capable of even rendering that ball demo. If that demo was real, it came from some kind of internal spec system that no one has ever seen.
There was the typical marketing crap like the developer reel where they were pandering to the console, but that's expected. Cern described everything about the hardware except part numbers, then they released the spec sheet later that day. They brought up publishers one by one and they showed off upcoming games running in-engine. They even made it known when something wasn't finalized, such as the Gaiki guy saying they are working hard to bring PS3 games to the service but they weren't making promises or the Square-Enix guy saying these were "target" graphics.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnmcl7
The only thing I noticed that was pretty hockey was the sculpting stuff with the PS Move controller.
Yoshida even sat down after the conference and cleared up a lot of the questions journalists had including the fact that the box's design is not finalized.
Anyone that thought they would announce a price or date needs to recalibrate their expectations. No way would Sony commit to a price yet, MS hasn't said anything. There wasn't a price for PS3, 360, or Wii U the first time they were announced. Those are typically discussed much closer to launch as the supply chain is finalized and all the other manufacturers have laid their cards on the table.
You want to see terrible press conferences, go back and watch the last 6 years of E3...
Again, they played the Killzone game on Fallon. I thought they spent great deal of time on games, which is what gamers care about. They didn't discuss 3D, 4K, or other buzzword crap. They talked about new ways to spectate games, sync to a Vita, instantly play PS4 demos using a streaming service, a new controller, announced a partnership with Blizzard, save screenshots or video without a media capture unit, motion control using the Dualshock 4, ability to play a game before its downloaded, announcement of 6 new games, Bungie was there (which was weird), system specs, and they talked backward compatibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaNihilist
Again, I totally think people were expecting too much. I thought they would roll a teaser film and announce the a PS4 and that is all.
yes, to me the best part of the new ps4 and durango (next xbox) is that it should significantly raise the current console performance bottleneck we are seeing on multi platform titles... all the games that came out this year have been held back by console porting... even if you never plan on buying a console, you should appreciate the intangible benefits they bring to PC games
People were expecting a lot because Sony was hyping it up for almost two months. They called every developer and every industry person and invited them to either fly to New York or watch the live stream. And then they showed a bunch of comps and spec work, and only after the insanely long presentation did they even talk about actual hardware or specs. And even then, the specs aren't "final". They said they were going to announce the future of PlayStation, and they announced a controller who's main feature is a share button that they never actually showed how it worked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timman_24
What will truly AMAZE me is if this actually ends up on shelves by year's end. Judging by AMD's stock price, it seems like they may have not even inked a deal with AMD yet. All I can see is that a controller exists, and it has some extra buttons on it. Do they do anything? I don't know. There's a game called Killzone something or other which looks like Crysis. There's on level, and it looks like a rails shooter.
They talked a lot, about all sorts of things, but it was all spec and comps. "Wouldn't it be cool if people could spectate? Well, we plan to make it so you can do that. We don't have any details yet on how." I mean, WHAT?? It's been SIX YEARS.
I'm sorry, this **** just doesn't fly anymore.
Well, you can only take a company at their word. If they are lying or are showing a false facade then that will be a story in a few months time. As of now, what they showed looks pretty good.
FWIW, On Feb 1st Sony announced the press conference would be held on Feb 20th. A far cry from 2 months and by "hyping it" I guess you mean the 1 minute long PS teaser?
I just don't understand what the "perfect" press conference would be. If they talked spec for 10-20 minutes at the beginning, most casuals would instantly turn away. If they rolled games then people would ***** about no specs. If they do a bit of both, then its too damn long. I'd hate to have to write a press conference lol. Juggling pleasing the tech nerd, journalist, and casual while not giving too much away to your competitor.
Well at least we will have an 8 cores optimized games ... I hope Intel will release their 8 cores i9 by then :)
Thanks for the correction ... didnt notice that DDR5 and GDDR5 are different .Quote:
Originally Posted by James
The excitement I seem to detect mostly boils down to:
--the hardware seems genuinely powerful
--the architecture breaks from Sony's previous model, which should make ports and development much easier
--Major relief that the "nightmare scenarios" of used games being abolished and constant internet connections required at all times that everyone was fretting about did not come to pass, it seems.
..That's about all I took away. Everything else was...well...pretty standard, if not downright "meh".
I skipped the PS3, I might get the PS4... my wife has wanted a blu-ray player for a while now. lol
:OQuote:
Originally Posted by Wurm
poor wife ... another long year to wait...
I can agree to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by kpxgq
Hardly. Rumors suggest that one core will be dedicated to the os and others to various other system level tasks like networking and the video buffering. I probably say the devs get 4-5 cores to work with.Quote:
Originally Posted by PCVSNotebook
Even so that should be more powerful than what the PS3 has now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timman_24
Lol, well I'd hope so!Quote:
Originally Posted by richardginn
What are the chances that MS uses low voltage Intel 8 Cores Xeon like cpu in their XBOX 720 ?
The 50 Watts 8 cores Xeon looks interesting :D
I heard that Sony will offer PS4 games with prices ranging from $0.99 to $60
If they want a PS4 like solution (everything on one die) they will have to get their GPUs in line first, gaming on a Intel GPU is painful to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by PCVSNotebook
Who needs a cheap built in GPU when it is Microsoft... I d love to see them goto Intel + Nvidia :D somthing like GTX 670 + 8 cores ULV Xeon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wurm
This will be the first set of consoles I will not be trying to grab on release day. I just dont care anymore. Sad when I stood in line forever for a PS2 back in the day.
That's not a console that's a PC.Quote:
Originally Posted by PCVSNotebook
Apparently , the PS4 is a PC too :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Wurm
so why not :) .. I want to see games optimized for GTX670 using every bit of the hardware !
Console or PC the fastest GPU on an Intel CPU you can buy today is crap compared to what AMD can give you on CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wurm