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I don't think Sheldon Brown can tackle and hit well enough to be a SS. He is just too small. If his future is at safety, it will be at FS where he would be replacing Dawkins. I was hoping the Eagles would sign Gibril Wilson.

I heard Javon Walker got cut. If the Eagles can't trade for Williams (or Larry Fitzgerald) they might take a look at him. Personally I thought the red zone problems last year were caused by poor accuracy from McNabb and stubborn playcalling by Reid. (i.e. We are a passing team so we will not run the ball not matter how poorly we are passing.)

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Originally Posted by WolfNoob

I don't think Sheldon Brown can tackle and hit well enough to be a SS. He is just too small. If his future is at safety, it will be at FS where he would be replacing Dawkins. I was hoping the Eagles would sign Gibril Wilson.

I heard Javon Walker got cut. If the Eagles can't trade for Williams (or Larry Fitzgerald) they might take a look at him. Personally I thought the red zone problems last year were caused by poor accuracy from McNabb and stubborn playcalling by Reid. (i.e. We are a passing team so we will not run the ball not matter how poorly we are passing.)

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Don't get me wrong, i am not one for switching guys positions and stuff like that. Its just an idea i have heard tossed around a lot in the off season. I am actually fine with Considine at SS with Reid backing him up.

As for a receiver...we really need one. And I would try and go for the best one available...and that would be Moss. Mcnabb does struggle with his accuracy on the short passes, but he can throw a deep pass as well as any QB in the league. If you are trying to fill a position, and have cap room, go for the best. The Eagles need to be in a win now mode, I as a fan am tired of saving cap room and using stop-gap players to fill needs.

I also think, as I said before, not having a tight end or a go to guy that can beat press coverage at wide out is the biggest reason we could not score. I do agree about the play calling. Mcnabb has always been inaccurate on short passes and we never had problem scoring like we did last year.

You know, for being such a pass happy team you'd think the eagles would get mcnabb a receiver. Look at what he did with owens on the team. If the fitz deal goes through I think that would be a lot more beneficial to the team than getting samuel. Hopefully they don't acquire him though, I'm fine with another year of mcnabb not having a standout receiver.

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Originally Posted by md1198p

Don't get me wrong, i am not one for switching guys positions and stuff like that. Its just an idea i have heard tossed around a lot in the off season. I am actually fine with Considine at SS with Reid backing him up.

As for a receiver...we really need one. And I would try and go for the best one available...and that would be Moss. Mcnabb does struggle with his accuracy on the short passes, but he can throw a deep pass as well as any QB in the league. If you are trying to fill a position, and have cap room, go for the best. The Eagles need to be in a win now mode, I as a fan am tired of saving cap room and using stop-gap players to fill needs.

I also think, as I said before, not having a tight end or a go to guy that can beat press coverage at wide out is the biggest reason we could not score. I do agree about the play calling. Mcnabb has always been inaccurate on short passes and we never had problem scoring like we did last year.

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FYI... for all the discussion that we had last year on how McNabb's knee injury was going to affect him, he played much better than I thought that he would. I was impressed. His mobility too was a lot better than I thought that it'd be (though still not up to par with his old self).

I expect him to have a better year this year even. Especially if they get a guy like Williams or Fritzgerald.

I think that they may have overpaid for Samuel though. I can't hlp but wonder if NE's defensive system was not a big part of his success. Will be interesting to see.

And I think that they *may* have given up on Kearse too quickly. I think that when healthy... that the guy is an animal.

Finally... Eli Manning's stats were not eye popping, but he played clutch in the playoffs and is now a SB quarterback... all without Tikki Barber and his production or anyone close to replacing him (nor Jeremy Shockey). Has Eli lived up to his promise now?

:D

Eli's the prince of the league until the '08 season starts; then it'll be "what have you done for me lately?" just like every other QB.

Eli will likely not put up peyton-like numbers during the reg season, it's just not him. Especially playing in the meadowlands. I don't remember what it is exactly, but it's somethign like he's the only QB to ever lead a drive to win the SB in the last min of a game. For me, what he did this season gives him a pass to do whatever for the rest of his career. His ability to take over when the game is on the line is much more important than putting up big numbers during the season. I know I got down on him mid season, obviously I was completely wrong.

Don't be surprised when the media dumps on the giants immediately at the first sign of anythign less than perfection (specifically bspn). It only happens every year. They rarely side with the giants.

A lot of people on the giants board think that the they should get rid of shockey because of him pressuring eli to get him the ball and boss coming up so big when shockey went down. I think that with the giants winning the superbowl eli and even the rooks can put him in his place. I think that a twin te set with both of them would be pretty great.

anyway, I'm still enjoying the superbowl win.

Eli is still a second rate QB regardless.

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Originally Posted by MrDigital

Eli is still a second rate QB regardless.

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lol, I took you seriously at first

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Eli is still a second rate QB regardless.

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I agree. Hes never put up great numbers. The reason they wont the SB was because the whole team played well and didnt make alot of mistakes. Eli player better during the playoffs, but still not great.

But he made the throws when they needed them and the defense played great every game. I doubt he'll every be one of the top QBs in the league, and Im still never gonna take him in my fantasy league.

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I agree. Hes never put up great numbers. The reason they wont the SB was because the whole team played well and didnt make alot of mistakes. Eli player better during the playoffs, but still not great.

But he made the throws when they needed them and the defense played great every game. I doubt he'll every be one of the top QBs in the league, and Im still never gonna take him in my fantasy league.

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I don't think that Eli will ever be confused with Joe Montana... but all the people wo labelled him a "bust" or said that he'd never lead the Giants to the promised land... well... they're eating crow. Even if they don't fess up.

Eli gets the same pass every other QB gets: a complete and total forgiveness of his past sins right up to the point when he starts committing them again. His first four-pick game people will start talking about how that catch by Tyree owed more to Tyree being great (and, of course, completely underrated) and nothing to do with Manning ("All I'm saying is that, if he threw the ball where it should've been, Tyree wouldn't HAVE to make that catch..."). That's the NFL. Clevelanders are pissed because Derek Anderson (who led the Browns to a 10-6 record, a huge step forward from the year before) had two bad games: the Cincy game that kept us out of the playoffs and an embarassing Pro Bowl stint. That's right; we're mad about the Pro Bowl (if you saw him play, you kind of understand this).

Eli Manning's got ability, but he's got to stay at something close to the pace he was at at the end of the year to get a pass for a whole season.

I just want football to start up again, ugh baseball season, though I love my tigers.

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Originally Posted by Abarine

Matt Millen might've actually just outwitted Phil Savage. Weird.

Tell me about Rogers, spam...I'm not really familiar with your guys.

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Rogers is an absolute force in the middle. He can decimate double teams, stuff the run, and rush the passer. Very athletic. Huge. Oh! and man can he block field goals. Amazing.

However, he was very lazy here in Detroit. It seemed like when he wanted to he was one of the best DTs in the league if not the best. Then he would just disappear. Also he is hugely over weight, which has caused lots of problems with his knees (couple of surgeries etc.) and stamina.

Its always said, if someone can get through to him or whatever he'll probably be the best in the league. That never happened here.




I don't know if Millen outsmarted Savage, but the Cleveland deal is SO much better than the Cinci deal that got canceled. I'm very glad it went down this way instead of a 3rd and 5th rounder from Cinci.

I'm just happy he didn't go to Cincy, where we'd have to deal with him. Here, I think we can motivate him (although that might just be ego); if not, I think we can at least make him a decent nose tackle (340 lbs. in the middle is great in a 3-4 even when it isn't an athletic 340 lbs.).

I'm sad to see Bodden go, but looking over his last few seasons he's never quite lived up to potential. He's had recurring hamstring issues that'll need to be addressed (both in '06 and '07 he missed time due to these injuries that he'd rush back from; as a result, he'd never quite play up to his potential.

It's weird that you'd go after a guy of his caliber, though, since you're running a Cover-2/Tampa-2 defense that typically doesn't place a lot of emphasis on the corners.

Anybody else think Crumpler to Tennessee is a big deal?