You fairweather fan. Does a team have to do good at least once every 25 years for you to be a fan??Quote:
Originally Posted by spamjedi
Us real fans set our expectations accordingly. "The Lions got 2 wins this year? SCORE!"
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You fairweather fan. Does a team have to do good at least once every 25 years for you to be a fan??Quote:
Originally Posted by spamjedi
Us real fans set our expectations accordingly. "The Lions got 2 wins this year? SCORE!"
The lions are looking at a good 2 wins this year, just dump everyone and fire millen then sell the team and move them. I'm predicting the future. Maybe in a couple years Grand Rapids will get a team.
haha, yea I can understand how it's hard to be a lions fan. Keep the faith spam :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDigital
I can't believe the raiders. First they pay that no name d-tackle big money(i think it was a guy named Kelly), then they over pay for gibril wilsonn (I love gibril and I'm glad he got paid) then they pretty much picked up d-hall, and they grabbed william joseph from the giants as well! He's a bust and not starter material and I think they know that based on the contract, but still. I thought the raiders' secondary was good I don't undertsand the hall thing at all, that pick up really makes no sense.
You may be right ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDigital
If this is another losing season I don't know if I can hold on any longer. Heh. But I'll definitely be following my team all year. I'm just starting to prepare myself to switch to UofM or something.
Peter King talks about Millen's drafting...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...6/draft/1.htmlQuote:
Now here's a surprise: Since Matt Millen took over as team president in 2001, the Lions are batting .286 on their first- and second-round draft choices. (I don't include the 2007 draft; it's too early to tell on the yield from last year's first two rounds: Calvin Johnson, Drew Stanton, Ikaika Alama-Francis and Gerald Alexander.) But with the whacking last week of 2002 second-rounder Kalimba Edwards and 2004 first-rounder Kevin Jones, the black marks against the Detroit drafts just keep on rising.
When you draft a player in the first or second round, you're counting on him becoming an above-average player for your team. That's my line of demarcation. Of the 14 players picked by Millen in the first two rounds of the six drafts between 2001 and 2006, I count four players being above-average NFL starters for the Lions on their depth chart this morning: tackle Jeff Backus, center Dominic Raiola, wide receiver Roy Williams and linebacker Ernie Sims.
The sad tale of the Detroit drafting tape:
2001: Round 1, 18th overall, T Jeff Backus. Very good player --112 career games, all starts. Round 2, 50th overall, C Dominic Raiola. Above-average five-year starter. Round 2 (61) DT Shaun Rogers. Perennial tease just traded to Browns.
2002: Round 1 (3) QB Joey Harrington. Booed out of town in '05. Now a Falcon. Round 2 (35) DE Kalimba Edwards. Six seasons, 26 sacks. Just cut.
2003: Round 1 (2) WR Charles Rogers. Injuries, substance abuse made him a bust. Round 2 (34) LB Boss Bailey. Five years, moderate impact. Now a Bronco.
2004: Round 1 (7) WR Roy Williams. Very good wideout. Unhappy. On the block. Round 1 (30) RB Kevin Jones. Cut after one good and three nothing years. Round 2 (37) LB Teddy Lehman. Hurt too much. Just signed with Bucs.
2005: Round 1 (10) WR Mike Williams. Lasted two pathetic years before being cut. Round 2 (37) DT Shaun Cody. Backup DT. Seven career starts.
2006: Round 1 (9) LB Ernie Sims. Genuine item. Solid player, great leader. Round 2 (40) FS Daniel Bullocks. Good rookie year. Hurt second year. Can he rebound?
We're just looking at a situational pass rusher/depth guy...but we'd be converting him from a 4-3 DE to a 3-4 OLB, and I'm thinking we might pass this time. We were huge on him in 2006, but his dad screwed up the deal somehow...we ended up drafting Wimbley, which I'd say worked out rather well for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by spamjedi
Remember when this bulletin board was posted across from Ford Field?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrDigital
https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/...2008/03/49.jpg
We talk bad about Lions drafting all the time, but really, there aren't any players there that people thought were a big reach that I can recall (other than drafting WRs all those years in a row, but still, they were expected to be good). I think their problem has much more to do with developing who they draft than making bad selections.
And Al Davis is noiw the go to guy in contract negotiations. Just what we need, Al paying top dollar for James Jett like players I want the Raiders to win. Or at least not be a laughingstock. All my buddies are 49er fans.
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Originally Posted by PriMaTe
Al Davis believes the key to a good defense is having two shut down corners. He also believes that the Raiders are still a quality organization and that it's still 1975.
Hahahahahha... never saw that, awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abarine
Actually... with the new prevelance of passing in the NFL, I think that quality corners are more important than ever. Corners and D-linemen who can rush the passer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abarine
The Raiders have part of the equation for this year... and have Burgess on the d-line if he can have a good year.
I think that their run stopping, and their offense in general will be a mess though.
It's all about the right balance in this day in age.
The giants showed that a good pass rush will make ok corners look much better. Man to man is not the only way to play D. I still wonder if Kiffin will be coach at draft day. My bet is on Lofton. Or possibly Ryan. Kiffin will most likely be gone. So sad. Need hope.
I agree... but you need a REALLY good pass rush, or REALLY good DBs if you are only going to focus on one part of the equation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindwarper
Obviously, it's better to have both. Barring injury, my guess is that the Raiders pass D will be VERY good this year...
If I'm not mistaken though... I think that their run D was pretty bad last year. And in a division with Tomlinson and Larry Johnson... that could be all she wrote.
A great line can do amazing things without great DBs backing them up. A great set of DBs can do nothing without a good line in front of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
And this is a prime reason why. If the line can't stop the run, then you have to start bringing your DBs to help out with the run, and it doesn't matter how well they can cover if they're in run stuffing mode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard