sad sad. Looking at anand benches and fx is so sad. Need such a cooling to get such a pathetic results and comparing with a product thats been out for nearly more than half year.
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sad sad. Looking at anand benches and fx is so sad. Need such a cooling to get such a pathetic results and comparing with a product thats been out for nearly more than half year.
Well, if you really must believe that the fan on the Radeon 9700 Pro at 64 decibels is louder than a high output Delta fan pushing 80 cubic feet of air per minute, then that is fine by me.Quote:
Originally posted by TimisoaraKill
I never see somebody so obstinate like you in my life , even if you see that is the milk is withe but you say before that is black you will just hold on your black version , you are realy something m8 , try to convince yourself before you try to convince others .
DANG, just listened to the GFFX booting up over at TomsHardware review. IT'S FREAKING LOUD, check it out for those who haven't heard it.
Booting Up: http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...fx-boot-hq.mp3
3DMark: http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/...-3dmark-hq.mp3
i still expect it to blow the 9700pro out of the water when its released.
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Originally posted by jagojago12
Well, if you really must believe that the fan on the Radeon 9700 Pro at 64 decibels is louder than a high output Delta fan pushing 80 cubic feet of air per minute, then that is fine by me.
Yes m8 the Radeon fan is louder than a fighter-jet engine @ idle you got this right once , that's my opinion .
My dog name is Lexi and is a Doberman , damn nice dog .
Yeah...having the ati cards I do not see a reason to upgrade at this point in time. I normally am not an ati fan but at 1280 x 1024 (lcd screens) nothing could keep up but ati cards.
I am not sure what nvidia is thinking. If all 3 review sites say the fan noise is too loud..then guess what..it's probably too loud. The scores are pretty good but it seems like bandwidth is a major issue for them. I bet if they went 256 bit then the full performance of the card would eek out (especially at higher resolutions where it is ALL about bandwidth).
ATI pulled a good one this time. They came out with cards with the right set of features at the right time. Instead of the usual ati having to keep up with nvidia, it's the other way around.
As for the fan noises. It does matter. I have a small room, and neighbors. I can't afford to turn up my sound 'loud' to drown out my computer.
This is great though, the race is very heated at this point and time with nvidia and ati. I only see great things coming out for the next year or so as the two try to outdo each other :)
Woah everybody calm down anandtech recorded the noise the fans made at a close distance just to compare the noise level of a GFFX to a 9700 Pro...thats all...of course its not gonna sound that loud with the case panels on and while playing a game...but even so it IS a loud fan..
Anyone but SharkyExtreme:confused:Quote:
Originally posted by crashed13
Which review do you believe?
all i can say about that review is... OUCH ON the GeforceFX.. i thought i'll be alittle better then the 9700pro.. but damn.. it got wasted.. for a card comming out 6months later..
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Originally posted by TimisoaraKill
Yes m8 the Radeon fan is louder than a fighter-jet engine @ idle you got this right once , that's my opinion .
My dog name is Lexi and is a Doberman , damn nice dog .
Basically, that is what I have been trying to explain with all of my posts in this thread.Quote:
the inverse square law which indicates that there is a change of 6 decibels each time you double or halve the distance. In this case, 70 dB at 50 feet would correspond with 94 decibels at 3 feet and 106 decibels at about 9 inches from the ear. Factory machinery, some drills, a loud truck are all examples of this level.
Link: http://www.lhh.org/noise/faqs.htm
That is solid proof as to why you should not compare Anandtech's data against the decibel rating of a Delta EHE 80CFM 80mm case fan. If a Delta fan's noise level were measured at point blank range, then I bet good money that the noise level on the Delta 80CFM would go over 100 decibels. In that kind of comparison, 64 debiels and 77 decibels for the Radeon 9700 Pro and GeForce FX, respectively, would be considered accurate.
Here is another link if you question the legitimacy (i.e., accuracy) of the original link that I provided:
http://www.sfu.ca/sonic-studio/handb...quare_Law.html
Jago is exactly right on this one. First off there is no way any video card actually outputs that many dB. The only way you are going to get that kinda output is if you are right next to it. I am listening to this thing now and yea it is loud, and has a whine, but I imagine they recorded this right next to the fan. With the case side panels on and the rest of your fans blowing in your system you really won't be able to tell a difference between the Radeon and GF FX.
Secondly, the GF FX blows by all accounts so far. It has been a very long time since nVidia has released a new Video Card and if this is their best in god knows how many months then that is pathetic IMHO. I mean look at the difference between the 9700 Pro and 4600. You see a large difference when the effects are turned on, which is ATi's specialty. Also take into account that the 9700 was released awhile ago (sorry no specific dates here, because I have not been to in depth with the video card arena in awhile, but I am thinking near 6+ months since the 4600 was released). The release of this card should have been on the heels of the 9700 Pro not 4 months later or whatever it is. Also, the release was supposed to exhibit a GREAT product from nVidia. Given the time it took to put this card out, how can this not be a huge disappointment???
Lastly, how in the hell does nVidia really expect to sell this if the R350 is coming out so soon after this??? I have no clue how fast this card will be, but I am almost certain it will be much faster than the 9700 Pro. If this holds true nVidia better be ready to lose lots of market share. The price at which these will debut is a joke for what you are getting, unless these drivers all of a sudden increase performance by 35%. This is a complete failure in my book since this card was supposed to be huge. Now that a respectable site (Anandtech.com, not [H] or Tom's, both of which blow goats) has reviewed this thing we really get to see how much it sucks. Sorry nVidiots, but even you can't say in your heart this thing rules.
MarcDaddy you are the man as usual, that was one of the funniest things I have ever read on this forum, and maybe in my entire life. Also, for those who are wondering which site is respectable, refer to my paragraph above. :)
Guess we all know why the FX has been delayed so long. My guess is that getting good yields on chips that run at 500mhz must have been a probelm and running the FX any slower obviuosly resulted in a card slower than the 9700pro which has been out for a while as we all know. Nvidia clearly has lost this round to ATI when they had to push the initial release of their FX to its limit just to edge out the 9700. And ATI is going to shrink and speed up the 9700pro to soon. When they do the little ground they lost to Nvidia will be made up and then some.
since everyone seems to be having trouble with decibels..
approx 3db = 2X noise
10db = 10X noise
i.e.
10*log(2) = 3.01db
10*log(10) = 10db
77-64 = 13db
13db = 10log(GFFXnoise/R9700noise)
1.3=log(GFFXnoise/R9700noise)
10^1.3 = GFFXnoise/R9700noise
19.95 = GFFXnoise/R9700noise
approx GFFX is 20 times louder/noisier than R9700.
You poor deluded joe, sucks to be you eh? :)Quote:
Originally posted by Mike09702
i still expect it to blow the 9700pro out of the water when its released.
Dont worry pal, slowly but surely, you will see the light.
I personally don't think this bodes well for the NV35 either...R300 matches up well to NV30(which is likely going against r350), NVx5's are usually just tweaked cores(and would probably be able to beat R350, but by how much is debatable) and is gonna be going up against R400 ATI's TRUE next gen core. They very well could be behind until NV40.