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11-23-2004, 02:29 PM
Colossus

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Originally posted by Matt_E
Still, what Valve is doing can't be legal. He paid for the product, and is not getting it. Were it purchased via credit card, I'd dispute the charge.

I dont see a reason why it is illegal...

If you stole a candy bar from a store then came back later because you felt guilty or whatever and paid for the candy and even admit to it. He can still press charges. You did the crime, and Im sorry that you were banned... I would contact their support line and see if they can trafter the paid HL2 to another steam account.
11-23-2004, 02:30 PM
adslegend

I got a free download with my 9800 XT, so I didn't actually buy the game.

Does that make me a pirate? :p

[Edit] In before lock :)
11-23-2004, 02:32 PM
SmoothCorn

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Originally posted by ewitte
More likely it causes him to never legitimately use any of their software.

Eric

YOU READ MY MIND!!

I feel angry at the whole system, I just feel like I will never pay for any game ever again. I feel like taking half life and copying it and distributing it for free to all of my friends. I will obvously not do that, but Im sure that someone will.

Stop being so angry, Im sure that I will still buy games and everything. But I will really have to think about buying anything from valve ever again.
11-23-2004, 02:37 PM
ewitte

Quote:

Originally posted by Colossus
I dont see a reason why it is illegal...

If you stole a candy bar from a store then came back later because you felt guilty or whatever and paid for the candy and even admit to it. He can still press charges. You did the crime, and Im sorry that you were banned... I would contact their support line and see if they can trafter the paid HL2 to another steam account.

The part that he was referring to was not being able to use the PURCHASED copy.

Eric
11-23-2004, 02:47 PM
slavik

I think what you're trying to say is that it was "overhyped"???

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Originally posted by Alf123
I do not want to turn the thread into a flame war.

But, the game is good. Just not as good as some people would have you think.

If I never bought it I really would not be missing anything.
It's not that great. But it is pretty good.
11-23-2004, 02:48 PM
Colossus

Quote:

Originally posted by ewitte
The part that he was referring to was not being able to use the PURCHASED copy.

Eric

I know what he is trying to say.. Just because you had purchased it after you tried to pirate it, doesnt make it right :D
11-23-2004, 02:50 PM
SmoothCorn

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Originally posted by Colossus
I know what he is trying to say.. Just because you had purchased it after you tried to pirate it, doesnt make it right :D

NO, I did not try to pirate it, why cant you understand that. I wanted to see if it was possible to pirate it, NOT TO ACTUALLY PIRATE IT. There is a difference in my intention...
11-23-2004, 02:52 PM
slavik

did u some sort of a receipt? I am sure steam system says that you have bought the game ...
11-23-2004, 02:52 PM
ewitte

Quote:

Originally posted by Colossus
I know what he is trying to say.. Just because you had purchased it after you tried to pirate it, doesnt make it right :D

It does not make it wrong either ;) Too bad it did not get locked before the purchase. He could have just searched for another crack :)

Eric
11-23-2004, 02:53 PM
Abarine

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt_E
Still, what Valve is doing can't be legal. He paid for the product, and is not getting it. Were it purchased via credit card, I'd dispute the charge.

You could dispute the charge, definetely. Try calling Valve, too; they may take pity on you.

I'd bet that in the EULA there are a bunch of clauses saying that they can revoke your membership if they suspect you of piracy. The degree of piracy (i.e., whether he was trying the game out to see if it ran, seeing if hackers had cracked the game, or planning on never buying the game) probably doesn't matter much to Valve. It's like that old saying: "The prisons are filled with innocent men." The internet is filled with pirates who were "going to buy the game."
11-23-2004, 02:57 PM
Colossus

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Originally posted by SmoothCorn
NO, I did not try to pirate it, why cant you understand that. I wanted to see if it was possible to pirate it, NOT TO ACTUALLY PIRATE IT. There is a difference in my intention...

You entered a incorrect serial number. That was enough intentions.

So I guess if I point a gun at someone to see if I could. I shouldnt have charges press, because I had no intent of pulling the trigger. Yes I know that is a tad extreme, but shows that intent doesnt matter much.

Like I said earlier call steam/valve about it.. Call their customer support line.

EDIT:
Play dumb (works for females :D, *hides*)..... Just say you dont know why you are banned and deny.. Or claim something, i dunno.
11-23-2004, 03:01 PM
SmoothCorn

Quote:

Originally posted by Abarine
You could dispute the charge, definetely. Try calling Valve, too; they may take pity on you.

I'd bet that in the EULA there are a bunch of clauses saying that they can revoke your membership if they suspect you of piracy. The degree of piracy (i.e., whether he was trying the game out to see if it ran, seeing if hackers had cracked the game, or planning on never buying the game) probably doesn't matter much to Valve. It's like that old saying: "The prisons are filled with innocent men." The internet is filled with pirates who were "going to buy the game."

yes the internet is filled with those who were GOING TO BUY THE GAME... yes, but I am actually one of those who BOUGHT THE GAME....

yes, according to eula they can take away the game for various reasons, like piracy.. Obviously I have no legal stance against them.
11-23-2004, 03:10 PM
TwIce

Hilarious. The guy gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar and now he wants us to see him as a victim?

There is absolutely nothing about either (1) the Steam registration process (2) the cost of the game or (3) the long-ish loading times that can reasonably justify thievery.

Only in the world of PC-related commerce do hackers, crooks and whiners attempt to pose as Robin Hood for having figured out a way to steal what isn't theirs and when it doesn't work -- like it didn't for the genius who started this thread -- they want our sympathy.

Please.

Gabe has delivered big-time with HL2 and I'm glad he is able to protect his intellectual property against scroungers, ingrates and criminals!
11-23-2004, 03:12 PM
Matt_E

Quote:

Originally posted by Colossus
I dont see a reason why it is illegal...

If you stole a candy bar from a store then came back later because you felt guilty or whatever and paid for the candy and even admit to it. He can still press charges. You did the crime, and Im sorry that you were banned... I would contact their support line and see if they can trafter the paid HL2 to another steam account.

All true, except: What valve is doing is having you buy a candybar after the fact, then swiping it, and not refunding you the money.

Yes, he tried to pirate the game, but then he paid for a separate copy. So, that should be treated entirely separately. What gives Valve the right to take your money without providing what you pay for? That's stealing on their part.
11-23-2004, 03:17 PM
Matt_E

Fellas...yes, he tried to pirate the game, which is rotten, regardless of intent, or how "far" you tried to take it.

But then he plopped money on the table for a legit copy. Even though Valve may spell it out in the EULA, I don't think it has legal standing.
At the very least, they should refund the money.

Think about it: The guy pays 54.99 for a piece of software that Valve bars him from ever using.

I call that stealing his money.

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