That's because they had "Edge". He was on my FFT and boy did give me some serious points. Well, him and LJ (who I got in like the 11th round :) )Quote:
Originally Posted by monroeski
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That's because they had "Edge". He was on my FFT and boy did give me some serious points. Well, him and LJ (who I got in like the 11th round :) )Quote:
Originally Posted by monroeski
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Originally Posted by md1198p
Well good luck with that. ;)
btw I actually applaud your willingness to stick up for him, compared to most Eagles fans.
Take it easy Snakespy, it was the first preseason game. It means absolutely nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakespy
If the first team doesn't move the ball at all during the last preseason game then I might get a little worried. But the Broncos will be alright.
I'm with you on Lelie....what a whiney loser.... you earn the #1 spot on the field, not through your agent. Cutler is the future, and it's looking bright judging by his performance so far. :)
No intelligent Eagle fans bash McNabb. He is clearly the best eagles QB in the past 50 years. Unfortunately, there are plenty of loud mouth knuckleheads who call themselves fans, but they are just a vocal minority.Quote:
Originally Posted by r'aggro
There is a sports radio culture up there where there must be something wrong with everything. As Mike Schmidt termed it, "The thrill of victory, and the agony of reading about it."
I'll dissagree with you on that clearly part, Ron Jaworski won a MVP and got them to the super bowl too. McNabb is a great QB, but with his injuries I'd have to give Jaws the nod over him.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfNoob
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Originally Posted by r'aggro
Its not all that bold of a prediction...he already did it once.
A real eagles fan realizes all he has done over the last 6 years, carrying the team with a coach that doen't run the ball, but has drafts linemen that are better run blockers than pass blockers, and one of the worst receiving corps in the game over that span. His accuracy is always put on the spot, and while its not as good as some QB's, it improves every year. He also keeps plays alive scrambling, and just pushing lineman to the ground, and has one of the strongest arms in football.
Put it this way, I believe you switch teams with him and Peyton Manning, and Manning put up decent, but not awesome numbers like he has, and Mcnabb's stats go through the roof. Probably no one will agree with me, but oh well. :cool:
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Originally Posted by Brahma
What are all these injuries? In 2002 he missed 6 games, and last year he missed 7. He's no Farve with durability, but a lot of players have been hurt a lot more that that in 7 years.
13 games in 4 years is pretty significant for a starting NFL QB...almost a full season. He's one of those great athletic players that needs to learn to balance his effort to make a play with protecting himself, a little better.
I think the problem with the Eagles is not mcnabb but the inability for the receivers to get open. He is forced to improvise (run) or force a ball where it shouldnt be. Dont get me wrong, the receivers can catch, but their field awareness isnt the greatest. Defense has always been pretty good. They got more drama over there than Oprah.
Oh and NEVER base a teams output during the preseason. Hell look at Houston. They already won as many games during the preseason then ALL of last season. Mario Williams aint lookin good though.
I dunno man, Cunningham was a stud.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfNoob
If you don't think McNabb is tough you never watched a NFL QB play with a broken bone in his leg like Donavan. I'm am a die hard Steeler fan but the Eagles are very lucky to have McNabb. He is tough. T.O. threw you a curve ball but the Eagles are still a solid squad. I expect them to have a good year.
Cunningham is the Dominique Wilkins to McNabb's Larry Bird. The man was a walking highlight film but never did squat in the playoffs even with a loaded defense. He was a stud in madden though. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by r'aggro
In 7 seasons McNabb has started 12 playoff games (7-5). That's more than Jaworski(4-5) in 15 seasons and Cunningham(3-7) in 16 seasons.
Furthermore, his TD to interception ratio is a robust 2.03. Cunningham has a very solid ratio of 1.54, while Jaws had a poor ratio of 1.09.
I think my Bucs are going to contend for the super bowl, hell I think if everyone stays healthy then we can win it.
We got the running game, with Cadillac and Alstott. Simms has matured ten fold, and they say he's one of the strongest QB's in training camp. And our new rookie Gradkowski has been very impressive the two pre-season games. Michael Clayton and Galloway will give our passing game everything it needs.
And our defense, well Cullpepper got owned by Tampa's first team D, without Brooks or Simeon Rice playing! The defense will continue to dominate.
If the bucs don't make it to at least the NFC divisional round, then I'd be very suprised. We will certaintly win the NFC south this season.
If Dallas can keep TO in check, they may do very well. But I don't think that team has enough glue to be consistant all season. I hope that the Bengals do well, because I would like to see them do well. As they've been such a laughing stock up until last season.
Anyways, can't wait for the season to start. And pre-season is joke, they need to shorten the pre-season to two games.
So true! The eagles have played 3 preseason games already, but it is still 3 weeks until the season opener. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Idiot356
Yeah, pre-season games can border on unwatchable. The finesse guys don't even want to suit up and risk injury; besides that, the tackling is soft and effort is pretty lacking. Two weeks would indeed be much better.
While i do think the preseason is too long, i also think the media, fans, players and coaches blow it out of proportion. The coaches can play anyone they want, I think the coaches should just play the starters and 2nd team players less than what they do, and play the scrubs for the majority of the preseason quarters.
I agree with you, mcnabb is a great qb. The problem is he doesn't have a receiving core, and there hasn't been a run threat since he arrived. Look what happened when TO shows up, they ended up being in the superbowl. It's too bad all of that bs happened because it would have been interesting to see what those two could accomplish with more than 1 season. Westbrook has been great on the team but he's not a run threat. If Mcnabb had a run game to balance the passing, along with some receivers he, and the team, would be doing much better as already stated by MD.Quote:
Originally Posted by md1198p
I would like to note that they did make it through the playoffs and to the Super Bowl without him; They had made it to the NFC Championship game before without him on the team at all, and while he was on the team when they finally made it through that game, he wasn't on the field. I don't think he made as huge of a difference on that team as he was made out to be. He had a great season and good stats, yes, but they didn't really do anything they hadn't done before until he was hurt.Quote:
Originally Posted by PriMaTe
I am so glad that TO didnt go the Broncos, Lelie and TO on the same team, sheesh could you imagine that, terrible. neither of them would ever play :p
In case you guys dont know what Im talking about with Lelie, he is on holdout because he thinks he deserves to be the Number 1 reciever (in front of ROD SMITH AND JAVON WALKER). And btw Lelie makes big plays once or maybe twice a game. But thats it, thats all he ever will do and all he ever has done. He drops sooo many big passes its unbelievable.
I live in Plano (just north of Dallas), and work in Dallas. I'm not a Cowboys fan at all, even though I've spent my whole life in Texas, but I hate that TO came here just because it's all they freaking talk about on sports stations here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakespy
Lelie is TO without the talent. It's so funny that he thinks he should be the #1 receiver while he couldn't come close to beating out a 36 year old to actually earn that spot. In fact he showed so little promise that the team traded its 2nd round pick for Walker to be their heir apparent to Smith.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakespy
exactly, Lelie is TO without talent. perfect. Heck, Darius Watts is better than Lelie.Quote:
Originally Posted by WolfNoob
Im from Dallas but my wish is for VY to get alot better by the time the normal season starts, i think he is the sole reason im interested at all in football right now
Oh, Vince Young. Took me a minute to figure out who VY was.
I think it's a concensus that Lelie is overrated, and no one likes that snotty 'tude, either.