Ya right. They won't get Quinn. They have an ex-probowl QB sitting this season out with injury, and a potential future pro bowler playing now. Skill posistions is the last thing they need.
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Ya right. They won't get Quinn. They have an ex-probowl QB sitting this season out with injury, and a potential future pro bowler playing now. Skill posistions is the last thing they need.
That link is two years old. I'm pretty sure he signed a long term contract since then, and Reggie Wayne is the franchise player this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakespy
Raiders make stupid moves....if Quinn is any good, they will pass on him.Quote:
Brady Quinn will look good in silver and black
Who in the heck are you referring to? Who's the future pro bowler...walters? Yea right. And Brooks is not the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabidmoose171
I think Walter is fairly good, he didn't have half a chance with that line... Brooks was a bust from conception.
then again Brady Quin IS pretty dreamy
http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/8...dyquinn4px.jpg
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Originally Posted by rabidmoose171
Now that is very funny.
I think there's enough value at the top of the draft that the Raiders would be able to trade out of their #1 spot (assuming they get it) and pick up more picks or players, which I think would be a good move for them.
They're not in a position like San Francisco a few years back, who wanted to move out of the #1 spot to get more picks/players, but there were not enough great picks in that draft for anybody to want to give up what they would need to to get a #1.
Walters is a stick...there's no mobility. Everyone blasts Bledsoe for the same reason.
so what, QB's aren't supposed to be michael vick.... if that was the case then why pay offensive lineman? dude needs 3 seconds to throw, he can't buy 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boneycat
quinn is alright, don't get me wrong, but you can't give up on a guy after part of a season behind a crappy line...he was being told to take 7 step drops...7STEPS! behind a line that couldn't block a website.
I'm gonna assume you're joking because no one can be that...well, we todd dead...sofa king we todd dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
QFT. I don't know if Walters is the answer or not, but I know you can't judge whether or not he's the answer with the TERRIBLE team he's a part of. The great skill positions he has, Randy Moss and Lamont Jordan, are nothing without an O-Line that is worth anything. I continue to say that RBs are the most situation dependent position in football, and Moss said he doesn't even try when he isn't happy, and Porter is just a whiny loser this year; a QB with time would be Moss' best friend. Oakland needs to trade down their high draft pick, get some rookies and free agents to shore up their O-Line, and with the improved offense pick up some more wins next year. Most importantly, they need to be able to defend home field advantage; being able to "Protect this HOUSE" is the first sign of a team that is on the rebound.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
Man how quickly you forget. Just look at Dallas and their crappy *** O-line. Bring in romo who you love and viola! The number of sacks go way down. Arizona replaces Warner w/ a more mobile Leinert. Arizona still sucks, but at least they are giving themselves chances to win. The Raiders need a bonefide QB and they haven't had once really since Stabler. Oh, and their last QB that was any good...ran around like crazy.
Meh, Dallas' line isn't anywhere near as bad as Oakland's.
Perhaps not, but that's not saying much.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabidmoose171
Great, now it's Darrell Jackson's turn to be injured. No big deal, he only leads the league in TD receptions. :mad:
This O has gone all year with starters hurt, apparently the trend continues. Not our year, I guess.
In Dallas' case, I don't think the o-line is all that terrible (though I'm not saying they're great or anything), it's just that with Bledsoe back there the defense could just pin their ears back and go for it. There was basically no risk of leaving him a hole to run through, since he was a terrible scrambler, so they could go all out. Put practically an QB with the least bit of mobility back there and they would have looked a lot better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boneycat
You can say the exact same thing about Walters. Brooks has been sacked half as much in the games he's played in. W/ Walters back there, he was ave getting sacked 9 times per game. He's not a mobile QB. You can say the same thing about Kerry Collins which is who Walters reminds me of.Quote:
Originally Posted by monroeski
The point being. The raiders do not need a quaterback.
Odd, all the local radio hosts say otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabidmoose171
Oh, I forgot the part where whatever the local radio hosts said was the truth, or that I had to think the same.
Any of you Raider fans want Jon Gruden back?
Will promote Kiffin to head coach and hire some great offensive cordinator next year and get rid of this West Coast 400 plays in the play book offense. Yeah it works great under Montana and Young folks, not rookies.
Dungy, Kiffin, and Lovie Smith created the defense half the NFL uses this year, like the great Bears. We just need younger players to pull it off.
Given everything you hear about Dungy's defense, the Colts are horrid at it.
Yeah that's one thing I don't understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Assassin
And Brian Billick's offense. He's a quarterback guru, you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul Assassin
Shanahan is one hell of a defensive guru, always has been...To say Dungy is, is well, just...sofa king wee todd dead. :p Shanahan alwas has little quick guys (for what ive heard he has had the smallest D-Line in football for years) and it usually works, lately I dont know what the heck is happening though :mad: I wish the Broncos could have kept Bertrand Berry!