They are currently working on a on-demand library, similar to the way Napster works.Quote:
Originally Posted by raider1v1
They are currently working on a on-demand library, similar to the way Napster works.Quote:
Originally Posted by raider1v1
that's fine then...I thought like all videos...like say video game movies/trailers and 18+ material (if you know what I mean ;)) would be affectedQuote:
Originally Posted by ImaNihilist
That sounds terrific. If you don't want to use it, you don't have to. Apparently you don't want to. Problem solved.Quote:
Originally Posted by I4one
I'm more than happy to let them know what I'm watching if it means I can dowload all I want for $20 a month, or whatever the case might be. I couldn't care less. Apparently you do, so you probably shouldn't use it.
Have you ever ordered a pay-per-view movie or are you to afraid that the evil cable company might know what movie you are watching and sell that information? What's the big deal? You are buying the movie if you get it on PPV or from the store. One way or another that money is going to get back to it's original source, and they are going to know how many people purchased it.
Rhapsody doesn't have any ads. I don't have any reason, at current time, to believe that Netflix will or other DRM services, aside from the typical movie previews. I have to watch those when I go see a movie anyway.
When you want content, how is to you go about getting it leagally without anyone knowing you bought it?
I guess in theory they COULD, but that wouldn't make any sense. Those are free movies trailers and the like designed to get you to buy a product, not keep you from being able to view. It isn't a madatory thing. It's an option that content providers can use if they choose to. They probably won't choose to do it until the user base is big enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by PointlesS
Some porn sites already use DRM. You have to get a license just to view the movie. You have to remember though, that DRM costs money to use, and it isn't worth it for some content providers.
Don't worry, porn will always be free.
This is really for Netflix and netflix clones that will emerge. The idea is that if you BUY a $20 movie and download it to your hard drive you can't send it to everyone you know. Or if you are using the subscription service you can't download 1,000 movies and then cancel your subscription and still be able to use them.
It's not that different then software DRM like Janus. The big thing is that it isn't crackable on a wide scale so more labels, artists, etc are willing to get on the bandwagon because they know their media is secure.
One of the things HDCP protection requires is a key exchange between the display and video output over an HDCP protected connection like HDMI. If some Chinese company began manufacturing a device such as you describe, the content providers can revoke the key(or keys) being used by that company. That key(s) then would no longer work.Quote:
Originally Posted by raider1v1
HD-DVD and Blue-Ray movies, for starters.....Quote:
Originally Posted by PointlesS
Where did you get that information, and why would you think that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Low Roller
Read this post of mine from earlier in this thread. That information comes straight from documentation on M$'s website.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImaNihilist
Why can't the copy protection be in the playback drive itself instead of being shoved in between the monitor and what not?
You buy a DVD player at the store, it has the DRM right there. Does not matter what TV you have. Why can't that be the way things are?
that has to be wrong, i mean making people change monitors to watch a movie? that just doesnt sound right
Well, it was my idea this kind of thing was mainly for downloaded content.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bearded Kirklander
I think the idea behind it is so that you can't do this:
Get a player that will play the video, play it, record it in real time, save it, and redistribute. I *think* that's the aim of having some type of monitor DRM control.
If they did, in fact, implement something like this for HD-DVD that would indeed, suck. That's where I'd have to draw the line and say, "Well, now it's gone too far." I can't actually see why they would though, so I'm not really to worried about that.
No, its not wrong, and its not just M$ playing this game...its PC hareware makers(Intel, ect.) and content providers(Hollywood) as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by raider1v1
Check out this Silicoln Image press release about HDCP-compliant hardware being produced for PC's....here's a quote:If anybody is driving this, its Hollywood...Quote:
“The market for entertainment PCs is projected to grow from 7.9 million in 2004 to 59 million in 2008, driven largely by the growing availability of new HD content and the popularity of Microsoft’s Windows Media Center Edition with integrated HDTV support,” noted Dr. Jon Peddie, president of Jon Peddie Research. “HD content for PCs is becoming more abundant with entertainment PCs now sporting ATSC and digital cable HD tuners, not to mention the coming wave of BluRay and HD-DVD content. Following the lead of the CE market, the PC market will require PCs to support HDMI or DVI with HDCP in order to access this content. With its single cable coupling multi-channel audio and uncompressed HD video and its smaller connector, HDMI is poised to emerge as the defacto multimedia interface for both PCs and consumer electronics devices—enabling PCs with true entertainment and multimedia functionality.”
well i just finished my MBA and that makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever!! people wont buy a 600 monitor to watch a 15 movie! what the hell! are they marketing this to bill gates rotary club or what?
Should be in the playback device, not in the monitor.
Why not just use a hardware dongle if they are that freaked about it?
i dont understand how that ties into rights management, who would care if the res is lower or not? i dont understand that part at all! why would they care? its just going to be somthing to drive sales lower
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Originally Posted by Bearded Kirklander
If it's in the friggin playback device then THE OUTPUT of that device can easily be ripped. It's not that difficult to understand.
MS is not just saying, "Hey guys, today for no good reason let's make everyone have to buy new monitors!"
The entire industry is pushing for better content control. MS is making it POSSIBLE for content OWNERS to PROTECT their CONTENT if they CHOOSE to do so.
It won't affect anyone at all. If you wish to view content OWNED by someone else who ONLY WANTS you to view it in a SECURE fashion, then you will need a new monitor. Otherwise, don't buy a new monitor and don't view that content.
Everyone is so quick to blame MS for everything. It sickens me. Many of you guys need to grow a brain and open your eyes instead of just jumping on the "Microshaft is T3h DEVIL!!!!!!1111111!" bandwagon.