Playstation 4

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Originally Posted by Timman_24

$45 Kinect

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Kinect? Get that **** outta my PlayStation!

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Originally Posted by dyne

Kinect? Get that **** outta my PlayStation!

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Haha, I believe we were talking about MS's new Xbox during our discussion :)

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Originally Posted by Timman_24

It was the price break down of a 580GTX to get GDDR5 prices, so of course it uses wholesale prices. Cheap *** NAND in throw-away USB sticks from china is much different from making a console that must be able to carry at least a one year warranty. I think you underestimate the manufacturing costs of electronics. The cheapest 3rd Gen iPad had a manufacturing cost of $306! The processor+GPU was only $23...

http://www.isuppli.com/Teardowns/New...Materials.aspx

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lol fine .. but who told you those sticks were without 1 year warranty lol ? they have full warranty and were packaged as well.

and please dont compare to Apple .. they wont make the Xbox 720 like an Apple product :)

lets do the math again

$200 CPU + $150 GTX + $60 8GB GDDR5 + $10 controller + $5 NIC + $5 Wifi + $25 HDD + $5 4GB system NAND + $20 logic board + $15 PSU + $10 Plastic enclosure +$5 cabling + $5 retail packaging = $515 Kinect optional :)

Move around the numbers all you want, you know it will be $399 with middling PC parts :P

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Originally Posted by taggart6

Either way I no longer buy consoles at launch. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to risky. I like to wait till the inevitable re-design or when the library is to great to pass up. I have more then enough games to keep me happy or the next couple of years as it is.

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This. Steam sales have overloaded my gaming choices and there isn't a sign of that source for games slowing down.

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Originally Posted by Timman_24

Haha, I believe we were talking about MS's new Xbox during our discussion :)

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Oh. Then get that **** outta my PS4 thread! :p

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Originally Posted by dyne

oh. Then get that **** outta my ps4 thread! :p

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No Halo for you !

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Originally Posted by Timman_24

Move around the numbers all you want, you know it will be $399 with middling PC parts :P

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ARRGH . Just put me in charge of MS Xbox for one year !!!

Hope that ps4 will be much better than ps3,also low errors.

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Originally Posted by ImaNihilist

We don't have prices yet for anything. It may well be.

The interesting thing about Steam is that it's already multi-platform, so they are already generating profits. Valve could, if they decided to, HEAVILY subsidize anything they build. They've already mastered software sales, and the lifetime value of a customer is through the roof.

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First one is slated to be $1000... Def not competing with ps4 or Durango

http://m.kotaku.com/5989727/the-firs...arting-at-1000

That thing is a terrible idea. Why they think they needed to go that small has me puzzled. Its not like people are going to carry it around. An mATX or ITX sized setup would be much better and potentially cost well under half as much. mATX motherboard, Pentium G1610, 4GB of RAM, decent case, 500GB HDD, 660GTX, and a small power supply would be ~$400. I mean, the specs on the Xi3 are terrible: http://xi3.com/tech_specs.php