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The ONLY difference between the 800u and 900u is that the 900u has the 92mm adapter for the fan...Quote:
Originally posted by lonewolfroger
Well do, I`ll put put the MB further down on the list and get the Cpu and ram first, and since I`m still going with air is there all that much differance between the SLK-900U and the 800U. The last thing, I`ll be getting is a new video card, so it will be either a 9800np or 9800pro. It should be a good system when I`m finished I hope.
Thanks, Colossus, I`m going to go with the 800U, I just don`t see no reason putting something that big on there, I`ll have a Vantec Tornado on top of it anyway, noise don`t bother me.;) :)Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
The ONLY difference between the 800u and 900u is that the 900u has the 92mm adapter for the fan...
Well, stranger things have happened - it would take a near miracle to actually get the #1 spot, but the people with 25k all have P4's + either dual phase change or phase change and watercooling. Given the same equipment, why wouldn't I be able to get it? :)Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
Well not really a WORLD record.. More like maybe Sharkys #1 spot :D
Depends on a lot of things to work out :)
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Originally posted by lonewolfroger
I`m thinking of getting a P4 2.8c and a Abit IC7, but am open to other opinions about my MB choice, I do want to get one that I can get the highest oc on and provide me with good 3D Mark scores. ;) :D
ah dont give up on amd yet, you need to get that fsb up there dude, also try to get ovet 2.4GHz like I did :)
link me to pc4000 ram review
"Well, get un-lazy! *kiss Colossus*"
:eek: :p
"Just finished reading the review - pretty much confirmed my observations (however, I had been testing on an AMD rig). Thanks, cool review!"
link me man! I want to see if pc4000 really is better than pc3500
"I'm sure someone will knock me down from my #1 spot pretty soon. I'll take it back later when I have more time."
I wouldnt sweat it, let someone be 1st, with you just waiting, his victory will be brief anyway, my ti4200 victory wont last very long either :(
"I`m going to go with the 800U, I just don`t see no reason putting something that big on there, I`ll have a Vantec Tornado on top of it anyway, noise don`t bother me."
wow man I have the exact same cooling, its the vantec that causes my temps to plummet like a rock. that cooling is so hardcore I can run 2.47GHz at 2.2v and that cpu hardly gets warm :eek: :eek: :eek:
Get what 25k or the #1 spot?
If you need to mod the board for extra voltages on the CPU, GPU, NB, memory, etc...
Without doing that and their knowledge of tweaking, etc... It would be hard to get to 25k... How do I know this??? :D
I have a friend with a 3.0c with dual prommie and he is only at 23k :D
So... But good luck anyway :)
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Originally posted by xDUCK
Well, stranger things have happened - it would take a near miracle to actually get the #1 spot, but the people with 25k all have P4's + either dual phase change or phase change and watercooling. Given the same equipment, why wouldn't I be able to get it? :)
seeing that the V man has nearly 4GHz and a 9800 past 500 on the core, youd need something like a 2.8c to 4.2GHz and nearly 600MHz on a 9800 pro's core to break 25k :eek:
The top spots are from people who have Vmodded EVERYTHING and also sorted through a bunch of equipment to get the best.Quote:
Originally posted by xDUCK
Well, stranger things have happened - it would take a near miracle to actually get the #1 spot, but the people with 25k all have P4's + either dual phase change or phase change and watercooling. Given the same equipment, why wouldn't I be able to get it? :)
I don't care what kind of cooling you have, to even hit Top5 is incredibly difficult.:)
Tbird, go to the Team Site and look under Reviews, you will see my review of the PC-4000.
Ugh what BS. The people with 25k have speeds like 530-550/410-420. Remember, my RAM can go way faster than vertices' - I'm 3fps behind him in nature, and my CPU/FSB SUCKS, and I'm 50core less. So don't tell me I need 600mhz core to break 25k.Quote:
Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
seeing that the V man has nearly 4GHz and a 9800 past 500 on the core, youd need something like a 2.8c to 4.2GHz and nearly 600MHz on a 9800 pro's core to break 25k :eek:
No but v3.2 on the ram, maybe 1.90v on the CPU, 1.90v on the GPU, etc etc etc... But remember they tweak different.. Even if you had their system with a clean drive and you benchmark.. You would be lucky to even get close to their score :)Quote:
Originally posted by xDUCK
Ugh what BS. The people with 25k have speeds like 530-550/410-420. Remember, my RAM can go way faster than vertices' - I'm 3fps behind him in nature, and my CPU/FSB SUCKS, and I'm 50core less. So don't tell me I need 600mhz core to break 25k.
Yeah, I didn't take vmods into account. :( But still, I'd have a pretty fast rig. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
No but v3.2 on the ram, maybe 1.90v on the CPU, 1.90v on the GPU, etc etc etc... But remember they tweak different.. Even if you had their system with a clean drive and you benchmark.. You would be lucky to even get close to their score :)
What are these secret tweaks? :) Are they protected by penalty of death, or will a simple PM to Opp or Macci reveal them?
They might tell.. I dont see why... But like I said even with the dual prommie and a 2.4c, 2.6 or even a 2.8c you are still not going to get 25k :D
Like I said maybe 23k at most or even 23.5 depending on how high you can take that card :)
EDIT: But even without 25k your rig will be real fast :)
You might have a very very good shot at #1 :) at sharky!
Also without a kick arse CPU... Run some 2003 benchmarks.. You score is more based on how far you can push the video card.. You should get one sweet score :)
Im bored... I am going for a swim... I wonder if I can setup my water cooler setup and drop the heatercore into the pool... Its very cold and it would keep my setup cooler then a fan right? :D
I wonder if I should have a bencharking party and invite the socal forum members to my place :D *lol*
T-Bird, I just don`t feel like putting more money into a AMD system, even though I might get a 8rda+ and give it a try I`m still going for the Intel system and why are you still at 2nd place on the data base you are so close to taking over the #1 spot go for it. ;) :D Yes, the SLK-800 and the Vantec Tornado or a unbeatable combination.:cool: :D
well you dont quite need 600MHz core but.....
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6842652
Ricky has 176fps in nature, thats insane!
checking the results, most people have 4GHz or more cpu power
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6568235
he has 4.01GHz and 520/400 clock speeds and still didnt quite break 24k either. Those breaking 25k have around 550/420. It could take 50 9800 pros before you find one thatll clock so high. although a 3.2 at 4GHz which the C man says good chance and a 9800 at 500/400 you should get like 23.5k This would put you on the bottom of the 2nd page which isnt bad
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Originally posted by lonewolfroger
T-Bird, I just don`t feel like putting more money into a AMD system, even though I might get a 8rda+ and give it a try I`m still going for the Intel system and why are you still at 2nd place on the data base you are so close to taking over the #1 spot go for it. ;) :D Yes, the SLK-800 and the Vantec Tornado or a unbeatable combination.:cool: :D
it would cost me a grand to switch to Intel. Id need a mobo, 2.8c and fast ram, this all adds up and its expensive. I need a v mod to my ti4200 for first place :( but first I must get the v mod on the ti500 to work
I know you like the 40.72 drivers, but did you ever try the 43.51`s. If you do let me know how they do.Quote:
Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
it would cost me a grand to switch to Intel. Id need a mobo, 2.8c and fast ram, this all adds up and its expensive. I need a v mod to my ti4200 for first place :( but first I must get the v mod on the ti500 to work
vert: I didnt want to upset you before... But you do know that Corsair is releasing in a month or two CL2 PC4000 :D
:eek: :eek: Are you sure???!!! Where'd you see this! :eek:Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
vert: I didnt want to upset you before... But you do know that Corsair is releasing in a month or two CL2 PC4000 :D
A little birdy told me at Corsair :)
I was taking to a rep at Corsair about PC4000 and he kinda mentioned CL2 with the new PC4000 :)
Vert, thanks for the great review and hard work you put in on the PC4000 RAM. I think this also confirms our previous discussion that, in general, tighter memory timings will yield better performance.Quote:
Originally posted by vertices
go to the Team Site and look under Reviews, you will see my review of the PC-4000.
No it wouldn't upset me. Just getting to CL2 isn't enough, they need to get it below 2-7-4-4 for me to get excited. It's the 4-4 which hurts. 3-3 or 2-2 and I'd want to switch.
I don't care anyway. I'll just buy new stuff and sell the old as usual.:D
Yes it does confirm. Although your calculations were off, you were mostly right, memory timings still make a significant difference.:)Quote:
Originally posted by OS-Wiz
Vert, thanks for the great review and hard work you put in on the PC4000 RAM. I think this also confirms our previous discussion that, in general, tighter memory timings will yield better performance.
Yes but it will run at probably 2-2-2-5 :)Quote:
Originally posted by vertices
No it wouldn't upset me. Just getting to CL2 isn't enough, they need to get it below 2-7-4-4 for me to get excited. It's the 4-4 which hurts. 3-3 or 2-2 and I'd want to switch.
I don't care anyway. I'll just buy new stuff and sell the old as usual.:D
I run my PC3500 at 2-2-2-5 :)
But we'll have to wait until the official annoucement to see what settings will be default :D
Also I said that timing matters a whole lot too :D
I was talking to a buddy of mine a few minutes about about PC4000 and he told me that if you are going to go with PC4000 dont get the IC7 series board... Even the new IC7-G MAX3... They seem to suffer from some 1:1 over 250Mhz FSB which should be DDR500...
I dont know if it has to do with the NB cooling or whatnot.. But that is a very interesting thing...
Vert: Did you have your board at 250Mhz FSB 1:1 ????
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Originally posted by Colossus
Yes but it will run at probably 2-2-2-5 :)
I run my PC3500 at 2-2-2-5 :)
But we'll have to wait until the official annoucement to see what settings will be default :D
Also I said that timing matters a whole lot too :D
It is not enough to call it pc4000(250fsb?) if the timings suck!
The best ram I know is pc3200 at 2-2-2-5-t1 or pc3500 at 2-3-3-6-t1 all the other higher ram have such bad timings its no better than pc3200 anyway. pc4000 at 2-2-2-5-t1 would be GODLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it could be great for 1:1 on pentium4s or perhaps for guys who v mod their nf2 mobos and somehow get it to 250fsb :eek: I was told the nf2 mobo can do as high as 300fsb if you v mod and watercool the northbridge but with todays ram, most people cant get past 220fsb!