thats what I never really understood, you make millions of dollars playing a fricken game...you go out once a week play catch and slap butts, be a little appreciative of your situation....Quote:
Originally Posted by rabidmoose171
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thats what I never really understood, you make millions of dollars playing a fricken game...you go out once a week play catch and slap butts, be a little appreciative of your situation....Quote:
Originally Posted by rabidmoose171
If you honestly believe this, you have no concept whatsoever of what it takes to be a pro athlete. I'm not saying it's the worst job in the world, but saying all they do is play a game once a week is ridiculous, and it amazes me how many people think that's the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
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Originally Posted by monroeski
it's an exaggeration, of course they practice during the week, weight room, film, game plan, offseason workouts, media appearances blah blah....point is you get paid millions and millions to work out and play a game, few bodybuilders get paid for working out...
Few pro athletes get paid millions of dollars to play their sports, also, when you look at how many there really are. Just take football, for instance - people only think about the NFL, but there is also Arena, and those guys don't get paid much. Then there is AF2, Arena Football's MINOR league, which is composed of 30 teams from such traditional sports powerhouse cities as Spokane and Laredo. Then there is the Intense Football League and the National Indoor Football League.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
Also, it's not just getting paid to work out and play a game once a week. You HAVE to work out or you get fined. You HAVE to keep your body weight and fat percentage at certain levels or you get fined. Fines for showing up late to meetings. I went through college football practice for a D-I school, and I have known several guys that went on to play in the NFL, and trust me, it is not just "playing a game," it is hard-***, bust your balls WORK.
and brain surgery is just getting paid to cut someone's head open.....Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
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Originally Posted by PriMaTe
indeed :D
arena ball players get paid pretty well, up to $80k a year... better than cutting tree branches for $8 an hour. AF2 is like $250 a week or something small.
there are guys that work out everyday all day at your local gym who would love to trade places with anyone in the NFL....go to venice beach and ask any of the dudes down there, who would dwarf some of the NFL guys how much they make a year for working out.... not 3, 6, or 11 mill like the stars....even vets get a league minimum of something like $700k.
lots of pro athletes get paid millions, don't make it sound like they are few and far between...guys you have never heard of in the NBA pulling down $10 mill... "who the hell is that?" I don;t know...but he's rich now.
The key in that sentence is "in the NBA." There a billion different smaller leagues or developmental leagues where the guys get chickenscratch.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
I just heard Dallas cut/ will cut Marco Rivera. Chronic back problems are a *****.
I bet the Hawks cut Kelly Herndon, too. He'll be making way too much for a fourth corner.
Pacman Jones had his hearing with Goodell this morning (Friday) to try to get his punishment reduced. Will probably have a hard time convincing him he's reformed, considering he got a speeding ticket 4 days ago and was out all night at a strip club LAST NIGHT. What an idiot. I will say I think it will get reduced, because a full season is too harsh of a penalty to just come out of left field like it did.
Also, Vick is already selling that house in Virginia. :D
Geez, talk about idiots -
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2867381
Yup.
Strike 5... you're out buddy.
Was pissed when he "retired" when the Phins were counting on him being the cornerstone of their offense.
Losing him now is just losing out on a luxury that would be nice to have (top quality RB to spell Ronnie Brown).
That entire family is human garbage. You just know they think they can all do whatever they like just because there last name is Vick. I think Vick should at the very least be served notice: the next offense, no matter how small, will result in a 4-6 game suspension. And if any evidence appears linking him to this dog thing, he should loss a whole season.Quote:
Originally Posted by monroeski
Junior Seau is reportedly going to sign up with the Pats for another year, for his 18th season.
18 seasons as a linebacker is ridiculous.
how many times has he retired now?Quote:
Originally Posted by monroeski
Just once I think...Quote:
Originally Posted by rabidmoose171
The guy isn't what he used to be.
That being said, he's still better than a lot in the game today. The physical skills may diminish, but the instincts never do.
I think he's only technically retired once, also, when he was with the Dolphins, I think. 3 days later, he signed with the Patriots. Injuries and such have caused him to have short seasons, or be released, etc., and he has had contracts run out, but I think he only officially retired once.
I used to think that, but after watching Chad Brown's career wind down I realized that LB's without speed might as well hang it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spank_Me_Hard
I think that it all depends upon the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by r'aggro
Levon Kirkland probably never had a good "40" time. But he was absolutely dominant in Pittsburg at ILB at 270lbs (roughly).
I don't think that Seau would be a good OLB for the Cover 2... but I don't think that's what NE plays their base defense in.
It's a common fallacy I think to think that a dominant player can be plugged into any system and remain dominant.
NE uses a 3-4 defense. Junior is one of the inside LB's.
There you go... my point made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boneycat
He doesn't have to be smaller, and more able to run to the ball in that system.
But:
Responsible for a smaller area and able to fight off blockers.
That's true, I was thinking of Brown as an OLB in a 4-3 setup. Once he lost a few steps, he just couldn't hack it anymore.
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Originally Posted by monroeski
true, but in the NFL nearly every player makes a decent salary... and they are the ones getting involved in strip club drama (pacman), fights (joey porter), speeding and fighting cops (antonio bryant), boat orgies (vikings) and whatever else... let's look at some mediocre players.
Willie Whitehead - DT, NO Saints. He will rotate with 2 other players
Salary - 2007: $1.1 million
Age: 34
Junior Glymph - DL, Cowboys. Could play nickle rusher behind Greg Ellis
2007: $510,000
Age: 26
Bobby Hamilton - DE, NY Jets. released then re-signed wnd stringer
3/6/2007: Signed a one-year contract. 2007: $850,000
Age: 35
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What is the average salary of an NFL football player?
The average NFL salary in 2006 was $1.4 million. The Falcons had the highest payroll at $110 million, the Bills the lowest at $60 million.
pretty good payday... let's say they work 16 hours a day 5 days a week, so 80 hours a week...twice as many hours as the average joe, game film, working out, practice, meetings, media etc.
80 hours X 52 weeks = 4160 hours a year
1.4 million / 4160 = $336/hr
even at $510k it's $122/hr.... would you cry if you got paid $122/hr to work out, run, watch film, do media appearances, practice and obey some rules? I'm not sure I can really name anyone who would except the uber rich and if you are uber rich chances are you are NOT frequenting sharkyforums
Yea... some guys when they lose their one critical edge are just plain done.Quote:
Originally Posted by r'aggro
Other guys though, you can re-invent in a slightly different role.
I wonder if Brown could have still been good at MLB?
Or even a situational player... I remember Matt Millen (which shows my age) with the Redskins where he would only come in on obvious running downs... on passing downs he was a liability.
Other than that, I have seen careers extended with offensive tackles being moved to offensive guard (Kevin Gogan - Dallas Cowboys).
Most of the time though, a player is just done.
Correction - they are the ones that get in the news when they are involved in that stuff. No one would care if the QB of the Tri-Cities Fever (AF2 team) got in a fight at a strip club. I saw a stat in some article a year or two back that the percentage of NFL players that have been arrested is actually lower than the percentage of the population at large, though I can't find the source to back me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by vairox
I'm not really sure what you're getting at anyway, since I never argued that NFL players aren't well paid, I'm just saying that playing a sport professionally isn't all daisies and grab *** like many people seem to think it is. It is hard, hard work. Also, the guys making high salaries in the NFL and NBA and such are basically the equivalent of the upper management/CEO level; players in the NFL are at the very, very top of a pretty massive population. It would be like saying college dropouts really have it made easy and using Michael Dell as your example.
When you actually get out there and try an athlete's lifestyle, you come to realize how hard it really is and how devoted you really have to be to your sport to be able to cut it. Tons of people want to be pro athletes, but then they can't be bothered to hit a treadmill twice a freaking week. Fact is, if the majority of the guys in the NFL weren't in the NFL, they would still be playing football in some podunk league somewhere playing for crowds of under 1,000 or they would be coaching because football is what they want to do with their life.
They're still getting paid to play a game.
The fact that less of them get arrested than the normal population, if true, is still ****. They are supposed to be role-models and heroes.