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01-30-2007, 05:17 PM
Boneycat

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Originally Posted by monroeski

Actually, the issue at hand is whether or not it hurts him to have the Heisman taken away from him, and I think it does. Just because he's already signed ONE NFL contract (which is non guaranteed money) and some endorsement deals and had ONE fairly good season doesn't mean that the Heisman is now worthless. If it's taken away, anything short of a Hall of Fame NFL career from him and he basically just goes down in history as the guy that had his Heisman taken away.

No this issue at hand, like I said before, is whether or not it should be taken away from him. If it is (as it should be) then you can wonder whether or not it hurts him. There's no use in worrying about this last part unless it actually happens.
01-30-2007, 05:26 PM
spamjedi

Enough of this college talk. Let us discuss how Grossman is going down in flames on Sunday.

I don't like the bears. Which is odd because I like Lovie Smith, and the team in general isn't my favorite, but Grossman puts them over the edge for me.
01-30-2007, 06:00 PM
hongsc

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Originally Posted by spamjedi

Enough of this college talk. Let us discuss how Grossman is going down in flames on Sunday.

I don't like the bears. Which is odd because I like Lovie Smith, and the team in general isn't my favorite, but Grossman puts them over the edge for me.

You know I still think the Bears are going to win because the Bears' defense looked impressive and Grossman is actually playing pretty well.
01-30-2007, 06:02 PM
rabidmoose171

Let's see Urlacher score the winning touchdown on a 2 yard touchdown dive.
01-30-2007, 06:14 PM
Snakespy

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Originally Posted by rabidmoose171

Let's see Urlacher score the winning touchdown on a 2 yard touchdown dive.

now that would be an awesome win!
01-30-2007, 06:20 PM
monroeski

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Originally Posted by Boneycat

No this issue at hand, like I said before, is whether or not it should be taken away from him. If it is (as it should be) then you can wonder whether or not it hurts him. There's no use in worrying about this last part unless it actually happens.

You can try to change the subject now all you want, but since the conversation started when you said

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Originally Posted by Boneycat

On a side note, I don't think Bush really cares if they take away his Heisman...he's making plenty of cha-ching already.

, which is directly talking about the consequences of the trophy being taken away, NOT whether it should be taken or not, you just look silly.

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Originally Posted by rabidmoose171

Let's see Urlacher score the winning touchdown on a 2 yard touchdown dive.

I think giving the Fridge a touchdown in the Super Bowl and not letting Walter Payton get one is one of the biggest shafts in NFL history, personally. Not that there is anyone on this year's Bears team to compare to Payton, your post just reminded me of that.

All right, let's have some fun: Let's forget about who should win, who's the better team, etc. If the fix is in on this game, as Seahawks fans claim it was last year, who is going to win? Smart money says the refs rig the game for Manning, since he's the NFL's posterboy now, but if he loses again the "can't win the big game" story can be milked on media outlets for another decade while he is still playing. :D
01-30-2007, 06:22 PM
Snakespy

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Originally Posted by monroeski

All right, let's have some fun: Let's forget about who should win, who's the better team, etc. If the fix is in on this game, as Seahawks fans claim it was last year, who is going to win? Smart money says the refs rig the game for Manning, since he's the NFL's posterboy now, but if he loses again the "can't win the big game" story can be milked on media outlets for another decade while he is still playing. :D

If refs rigged football, especially based on what the fans want, the Saints would be in the superbowl right now. Garaunteed.
01-30-2007, 06:59 PM
r'aggro

Anyone who watched last year knows the refs gave it away. Not just Seahawk fans. It may not have been a fix, but they still influenced the outcome to a craptastic degree.
01-30-2007, 07:46 PM
Boneycat

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Originally Posted by monroeski

You can try to change the subject now all you want, but since the conversation started when you said

, which is directly talking about the consequences of the trophy being taken away, NOT whether it should be taken or not, you just look silly.

LOL! Notice i had said "on a side note". Trying to change the subject? I think you're the one who has the blinders on. You only look silly trying to make me look silly.

"On a side note" (in quotes for Monroeksi's benefit) I think the Colts are gonna take it, although I wouldn't mind if the Bears won. I'm just hoping it isn't over by half time.
01-30-2007, 11:56 PM
rabidmoose171

Bears have a 7 point spread, but its still hard to pick the team to bet. This game could go in so many different ways its ridiculous.
01-31-2007, 12:00 AM
Boneycat

Wow, it used to be 6 1/2.
01-31-2007, 12:13 AM
monroeski

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Originally Posted by Boneycat

LOL! Notice i had said "on a side note". Trying to change the subject? I think you're the one who has the blinders on. You only look silly trying to make me look silly.

"On a side note" (in quotes for Monroeksi's benefit) I think the Colts are gonna take it, although I wouldn't mind if the Bears won. I'm just hoping it isn't over by half time.

So people can't reply to what you said just because you called it a "side note?" Are you completely blind, or are you intentionally ignoring over a page of conversation talking about whether he cares about losing the Heisman since he's already made a lot of money, and whether money is everything?

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Originally Posted by vairox

Money can't buy personal achievement.

Vince Young would be the winner.

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Originally Posted by Boneycat

Money can get you the things you need to get your personal achievement. It can also motivate you to get your personal achievement. He's already made his money from the fact that he's won the Heisman. Taking the Heisman away from him now is not going to diminish this fact. Let's face it, it is all about money.

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Originally Posted by vairox

sounds to me like monro has been following the conversation a lot closer than some actual participants...sad.

I never said Bush should be allowed to break the rules, she should have the heisman stripped, USC put on sanctions and he should pay a hefty price for it...you stated that it didn't matter if he broke the rules (so it's ok) since he has a bunch of money now and it's all about the money anyways.

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Originally Posted by rabidmoose171

He got the trophy, and he got drafted high, now he makes a ton of money, if they take the trophy away he isn't going to lose his money.

And that's not even half of it. I'm through arguing this, since it's obvious you're not paying any attention at all.
01-31-2007, 12:26 AM
Boneycat

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Originally Posted by monroeski

I'm through arguing this, since it's obvious you're not paying any attention at all.

Oh thank god. It's hard arguing w/ someone who accuses you of doing something they themselves are guilty of. In academic terms it's called "projecting". Oh and a side note, Reggie is a kick *** player who deserves to have his Heisman taken away from him, regardless of the fact that he's made a buttload of money.
01-31-2007, 08:15 AM
spamjedi

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Originally Posted by rabidmoose171

Let's see Urlacher score the winning touchdown on a 2 yard touchdown dive.

The new slimer fridge for the 21st centrury!
01-31-2007, 01:11 PM
Abarine

I can't believe I missed this entire season. Whoops.

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