I AM GETTING AN ATI Radeon 9700!

Call me a fanboy, but it looks to me, ATI has just wiped the floor with nVidia. Not only do they far superior 2D and 3D features and quality enhancements, but the R9700 is undoubtedly the fastest graphics card available. Was there ever a doubt? :D Not in my mind, at least! :D I saw ATI's drivers progress and I knew ATI was cooking up something good. They've been secretly releasing R300 components into their drivers for 6 months now. What this means is that the R300 drivers are already semi-mature!

how much it will cost? have you an idea?
btw i am waiting the AIW version for buying it.

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Originally posted by Labdog
how much it will cost? have you an idea?
btw i am waiting the AIW version for buying it.

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The AIW Radeon 9700 is also going to ENCORE MPEG2 IN HARDWARE!.

Imagine video editing without having to wait several minutes (or even hours depending on the length and complexity of the editing you've done) for the app to produce the video in MPEG2! Now, all the CPU has to do is apply the filters and the Radeon card will do the rest! I don't know about you, but ATI is shaking the industry. I'm predicting video editing will so be very common among enthusiasts! :D

One thing that bothers me a little is that the 9700 isn't based off the Unified drivers architecture so any bug fixes previously made may come back to huant users again, but I really don't know so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. The no-brainer thing is that if does have bugs it should be ironed out relatively quickly given ATi's improved stance on driver quality.

R300 retails for $399.99 MSRP and should be widely available within 30 days.

I want one too, but $399 is kinda stretching the envolope a bit... I wish they'd have the R9500 come out along with the R9700. But I don't want to wait for R9500 and plus, if thier guess is right, then with only 4 pipes and slower clock speeds, it'll be quite a bit slower I'd say...

BTW AMD_Man, please read your PM box. I have a question about your TH7II.

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Originally posted by jagojago12
One thing that bothers me a little is that the 9700 isn't based off the Unified drivers architecture so any bug fixes previously made may come back to huant users again, but I really don't know so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt. The no-brainer thing is that if does have bugs it should be ironed out relatively quickly given ATi's improved stance on driver quality.

R300 retails for $399.99 MSRP and should be widely available within 30 days.

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I think they did that because the current devolper is tired of trying to fix problems with the current drivers. What bugs me is this probably means their will be very few updates to the Radeon 8500 :(

Eric

Which means, go out there and get yerself a R9700!!!

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Originally posted by ewitte


I think they did that because the current devolper is tired of trying to fix problems with the current drivers. What bugs me is this probably means their will be very few updates to the Radeon 8500 :(

Eric

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Anandtech.com stated the reason they departed from UDA is because the 9700 is incompatible with the 8500 DirectX file libraries. ATi claims to get UDA up and running again in future products after the DirectX 9 ATi parts.

Thing is, Nvidia has kept the same UDA ever since the original TNT, now that is impressive. 3 DirectX generations of driver unification and still going strong.

Well, I can relate. ATi doesn't want to screw this up like the R8500 launch. I'm sure they're just trying to keep everything together. Better safe than sorry as they say!!;)

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Originally posted by Chuck232
I want one too, but $399 is kinda stretching the envolope a bit... I wish they'd have the R9500 come out along with the R9700. But I don't want to wait for R9500 and plus, if thier guess is right, then with only 4 pipes and slower clock speeds, it'll be quite a bit slower I'd say...

BTW AMD_Man, please read your PM box. I have a question about your TH7II.

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If the 9500 still keeps the 256-bit memory bus then it should be around GeForce4 performance or slightly better.

Yeah, see that's the thing. If it performs like a Ti4600 is is priced at $249-299, then why not get a Ti4600, cause I'm sure the prices of those cards will drop quite a bit.

Well ATI does have some time to iron out driver problems, The card review was not final.

Increases in scores will come out.

I want one but the prices are a little high. I'll wait and get a new video card when I build a new computer. :cool:

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Originally posted by gateways_rule
I want one but the prices are a little high. I'll wait and get a new video card when I build a new computer. :cool:

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Yeah, I'm gonna be waiting a bit to build my comp. I'm gonna probably get this card. I was kinda hoping for something around $500CDN, which would be around $329USD. Hopefully the online retailers will sell for less than $399.

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Yeah, see that's the thing. If it performs like a Ti4600 is is priced at $249-299, then why not get a Ti4600, cause I'm sure the prices of those cards will drop quite a bit.

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But it doesn't perform like a Ti4600. It kills the Ti4600. It doesn't just barely beat it. It trounces it, kicks it around, spits on it, and while the Ti4600 lies bleeding on the ground, the R9700 stands over it drinking a cup of coffee daring it to even try to get back up. Face it, nvidia fanboys, you spent a lot of jack on a second rate video card.

From: http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzMw

UT2003 - 1600x1200x32; 4XAA; 16XAF – The Radeon 9700 doused the Ti4600 by about 25%. Now get a load of this, that is with the GF4 running without AA or AF. With 4XAA turned on the Ti4600 was crushed by nearly 300%. The Radeon 9700 simply made quick work of the Ti4600 under this UT2003 demo.

3DMark2001 – Using the default benchmark at 10x7 with no AA nor AF turned on, the Radeon 9700 exceeded the Ti4600’s score by approximately 20%. Where most of the score boost came from was the Nature demo as the Radeon 9700 was posting frame rates of right at 200% of the Ti4600 numbers.

Comanche 4 Demo - 1600x1200x32; 4XAA; 16XAF – Again approximately 25% ahead of the Ti4600 with the Ti running no AA or AF compared to the full on settings of the Radeon 9700.

Last, but certainly not least, a benchmark we don’t use as it is made by NVIDIA, tweaked by NVIDIA, and configured for NVIDIA hardware, the Chameleon demo. At 1600x1200 the Radeon 9700 doubled the Ti4600 scores.