Boneycat and I are right when a ti4200 eats a 9600 pro!

I have owned the 9600 pro and no it didn't outperform my ti4200 I don't care what all the benchmarks say. I returned the pro and am biding my time for that next great vid card that doesn't cost $400.


****see what Boneycat said? I am not trying to start flames, I just want everyone to understand while a 9600 pro is a good card, it has only 4 pipelines and lower fill rate than a ti4200. It does eat a ti4200 with aa/af but other than that, Boneycat has made it clear his ti4200 reigns champ. I am sure he can explain this better than me since he has owned both and his experience is valuable. I will not reccomend a 9600 pro reguardless of what you guys say. If someone wants a new card and has $250+ its 9800, else ti4200. Nothing else.

Yes the 9600pro dose eat(tm) the 4200. Try something other than ****ing 3dmark. Try real world apps, AA/AF non-O/Cing to O/ced settings. Back up all your **** you talk with numbers!! God I hate your stupid pointless threads!!!!!:mad: :o

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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
I If someone wants a new card and has $250+ its 9800, else ti4200. Nothing else.

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Well duh, those are the only 2 cards on the market, so how could you recommend another card? Your silly!

T-Bird, here are the problems with this:
1. You assume everyone cares about 3DMark.
2. While although you are correct, you recommend it to people for reasons based on grievance #1.
3.[*BEGIN SARCASM*]...I like the idea of only being able to choose from the TI4200 or 9800...[*END SARCASM*]

Now, did you compare the overclocked 4200 to the 9600 Pro at stock? Or were you fair about it and compared them both at stock?

ok first off I NEVER claimed my 4200 "eats a 9600 pro". The (cost @ the time) $175 I paid for this card gave me a ZERO performance gain so I naturally returned it. I agree with you that the 4200 at $70 is by far the best bang for your buck regardless of whether or not you can play dx9 games w/o all the eye candy turned on. The fact of the matter is is that you can STILL play DX9 games, your card just can't perform DX9 functions AND there aren't too many DX9 games out yet anyways. My ti4200 plays SWG, which requires a DX9 compatible computer (whatever that means), game just fine. Now with that said I agree with Tbird that I would NEVER recommend a 9600np. I'm waiting for the next high performing budget card like the 4200 was to the ti line. If the 9600xt performs at almost 9800 pro levels for $200 (I personally have my reservations) then that would definitely qualify in my book. Of course if I wanted a 35k score in 3dmark I'd buy a 5950 ultra ;). Sorry had to get that in. And don't let these guys get to you tbird. There's a lot of other things you can buy with the savings of buying a 4200 over a 9800 pro. Personally I think the people that totally rave about the 9600pro's do so if nothing else but to convince themselves that they didn't just get screwed out of $175 (well $150 now).

well since 3dmark is everything.. why dont we compare ti4200 vs 9600pro in 3dmark03

This has already be rehashed over and over... The 9600Pro vs 4200 is a mixed bag.. The 4200 wins some games and the 9600Pro wins other... This is with ZERO AA/AF... And the difference in framerate is only a few fps...

Now once any amount of AA or AF is added. The 9600Pro will shine over the 4200... Sometimes even 2x the framerate!

TB: Before you bash a card and say one will eat the other... Please own both cards.. Otherwise you are just not giving good advice and pointless threads like this :)

Hmmm, BF1942, 1600x1200, 2x AA, 4x Ansio and my 9600Pro doesn't even have the slightest problem. Try that with your Ti4200.

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Hmmm, BF1942, 1600x1200, 2x AA, 4x Ansio and my 9600Pro doesn't even have the slightest problem. Try that with your Ti4200.

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Has every post in this thread already said that 9600 beats the 4200 with AA on~? Believe so!

I agree on the tbird thing, it's stupid about obsessing over 3dmark and not even trying to play an ACTUAL GAME LIKE THE CARD WAS DESIGNED FOR!

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Originally posted by irwincur
Hmmm, BF1942, 1600x1200, 2x AA, 4x Ansio and my 9600Pro doesn't even have the slightest problem. Try that with your Ti4200.

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It won't happen...at least not with playable fps. Although I haven't updated my sig, my 4400 is currently running 305/610 and I still can't run any AF let alone any AA and not have noticeable speed drops and dropped frames.

*hugs his 9800 he bought for $200*

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Originally posted by Un4given
It won't happen...at least not with playable fps. Although I haven't updated my sig, my 4400 is currently running 305/610 and I still can't run any AF let alone any AA and not have noticeable speed drops and dropped frames.

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Now now if you stop be so lazy and whine so much :D You could of had that nice ATI card in that setup... No more worries for AA/AF :)

I still smell payback in the air! :D

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Originally posted by Colossus
Now now if you stop be so lazy and whine so much :D You could of had that nice ATI card in that setup... No more worries for AA/AF :)

I still smell payback in the air! :D

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OMG! :eek: What have you done C man!:mad: Un4given, I want you to know that I do not know this Colossus character who's obviously a coupla cans short of a sixpack!:p :D

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Originally posted by mikeysg
OMG! :eek: What have you done C man!:mad: Un4given, I want you to know that I do not know this Colossus character who's obviously a coupla cans short of a sixpack!:p :D

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ROFL!

Un4given, knows I still owe him for calling my computer, the specs of a toaster oven :eek: :p :p :p