Building my dream system... advice needed

ok.. i am building my dream system for college.. unfortunately i do have a budget... here is what i have so far... tell me if u think i should make any revisions...

*i already have a case, CD-ROM, floppy, keyboard/mouse, lan card, montor etc...
and the prices i listed include shipping.. if u can find me a better deal somewhere plz tell me.

-Epox 8K7A DDR mobo/AMD 1.2ghz tbird combo from bzboyz.com ($280)

-256MB (i might buy another stick later) PC2100 DDR from crucial.com ($68)

-IBM deskstar 40mb 7200rpm HD from newegg.com ($122)

-Any Geforce2 GTS (pro???) for around $100.. can ne1 reccomend a place to buy it.. any specific make?

thats basically the rig i have in mind.. my budget is around $600.. so if ne1 has any reccomendations to give me.. plz tell! I am hoping to acheive a steady 100+fps in Counterstrike at 1027x768.

thanks in advance!

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Originally posted by kpxgq:
ok.. i am building my dream system for college.. unfortunately i do have a budget... here is what i have so far... tell me if u think i should make any revisions...

*i already have a case, CD-ROM, floppy, keyboard/mouse, lan card, montor etc...
and the prices i listed include shipping.. if u can find me a better deal somewhere plz tell me.

-Epox 8K7A DDR mobo/AMD 1.2ghz tbird combo from bzboyz.com ($280)

-256MB (i might buy another stick later) PC2100 DDR from crucial.com ($68)

-IBM deskstar 40mb 7200rpm HD from newegg.com ($122)

-Any Geforce2 GTS (pro???) for around $100.. can ne1 reccomend a place to buy it.. any specific make?

thats basically the rig i have in mind.. my budget is around $600.. so if ne1 has any reccomendations to give me.. plz tell! I am hoping to acheive a steady 100+fps in Counterstrike at 1027x768.

thanks in advance!

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Al rite!
Here is a GeForce2 GTS 32mb (Dat's it not pro) from Visiontek for US$100 Not incl. shipping.
http://www.micropro.com/main.cgi?hot...,20,VCVTGF2-32

Sound card - you didn't mention, so guessing you need one, if you don't need all the razzle dazzle features of the er Game Theater XP or SB Live! Platinum, then get the Philips Acoustic Edge, for US$62 + US$5 for shipping at
http://www.sr-systems.com/SoundSound_Cards.html

Your IBM HD u didn;t mention whether its the 60GXP model or the 75GXP....DO NOT GET THE 75GXP HD, and I am sure MANY ppl will agree...it is loud and just sux...make SURE its the 60GXP model.
http://www.store-builder.com/jazztechnology/P_123.htm
Price here is US$108 + US$14 or more for shipping.

I don't know what else is incl. in the *etc. etc* part so that's all I am putting down rite now.



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The most reliable way of predicting the future is to invent it.


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NEW RIG:-

Hypersonic-PC SOnic Boom A/V

*AMD TBird 1.4 Ghz
*Asus A7M266 AMD-761 Mobo
*Crucial PC2100 256MB DDR RAM
*40GB IBM Deskstar 60GXP *Pioneer 16X DVD ROM/40X CD-ROM Drive 1 (Requested slot-loading)
*Visiontek Geforce3 64MB DDR
*Philips Acoustic Edge 5.1
*Mid Tower Case w/ 300W Power Supply
*Thermaltake Mini Super Orb DU0462-8 w/ Artic Silver
*Klipsch ProMedia 2.1

Current:-
PIII 600
Dell XPS T600
440BX w/AGP board
256 SDRAM PC100
Hardrive : 20GB
SB Live! Value
Altec Lansing ASC 330
64MB Radeon OEM
6x TOSHIBA DVD-ROM
Sony Trinitron 17"
Cordless Logitech Mouseman Wheel
Cordless Logitech Keyboard
Windows 98SE

isn't the ram going to be under 60 bucks still if he uses 2d day air.

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My suggestion is look into getting everything at one site (I personally usually use Mwave.com) some of the components ma be more expensive but you will save on shipping. Another advantage of that is only having to deal with 1 company rather than 4 or 5. Just calculate it out and find which way is cheaper.

Newegg can save you $30 on your proc and Mobo. 1.2ghz is $126 and Epox 8k7a is $124.

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My Comp:
1.33Ghz T-bird(Idle- 36C, Full Load- 43C
Epox 8k7a
256mb DDR Crucial
Prophet II MX 32mb
IBM 40Gb 60GXP
WBK 38
Lite-On 12x10x32
Antec SX1040 w/ 400w PSU
Sony A-400 19" Flat

Newegg can save you $30 on your proc and Mobo. 1.2ghz is $126 and Epox 8k7a is $124. And i agree that you should order from just 1 or 2 companys. (preferbly 1.)

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My Comp:
1.33Ghz T-bird(Idle- 36C, Full Load- 43C
Epox 8k7a
256mb DDR Crucial
Prophet II MX 32mb
IBM 40Gb 60GXP
WBK 38
Lite-On 12x10x32
Antec SX1040 w/ 400w PSU
Sony A-400 19" Flat

thanks...
i dont need a sound card.. cuz the epox supposedly has sound built in and thats all i really need.. i only use my headhpones so i i dont need high fidelity sound.

And y is the 1.133ghz more expensive than the 1.2?? is it better overclockable??? like the AXIA vs AVIA thing?

As far as heat sink goes... what do u think abou the Aplha sink/fan from 2cooltek.com?

thanks again!

ok i think i will be getting most/all my stuff from newegg... yes the IBM i have in mind is the 60 not the 75. THe only 256mb stick of pc2100 on newegg.com is the Kingston which is priced at $65... should i get that or stick with the order from crucial???

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Originally posted by kpxgq:
ok i think i will be getting most/all my stuff from newegg... yes the IBM i have in mind is the 60 not the 75. THe only 256mb stick of pc2100 on newegg.com is the Kingston which is priced at $65... should i get that or stick with the order from crucial???

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Get it from Crucial because its only $59 fir 256 stick of PC2100 and free shipping.

o yeah i was also thinking of getting a micro ATX case... because i only plan on having 2 CD drives and a floppy drive... will the epox 8k7a fit in a micro ATX case.. or do u not reccomend one at all for other reasons???

no, get a good case.. i'd get the Enlight 7237 from Newegg when you order it. A microatx will be WAY too cramped. If you have room, get a good case. Who knows, you may need it in the future.

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Originally posted by gotmonopoly?:
no, get a good case.. i'd get the Enlight 7237 from Newegg when you order it. A microatx will be WAY too cramped. If you have room, get a good case. Who knows, you may need it in the future.

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Agreed and heres you system reworked ,for better pricing.I also included things you may have forgot.Totals are with shipping too.Either way your gonna need at least $100 to $150 more than $600 for your system.Things with out a link are from www.newegg.com


AMD Thunderbird 1.2GHz 266MHz Bus Socket A processor OEM Version Fedex Saver Shipping $10.00 $109.00 total $119.00

AMD Copper Shims (AMD Socket A)
Code: 4023
Price: $6.99 http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=120199&Product _Code=4023

Arctic Silver II Thermal Compound 3grams
Code: 5021
Price: $8.99 http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=120199&Product _Code=5021

Gladiator Heatsink Fan (Socket A/462, Socket 370 FC-PGA)
Code: 5044
Price: $29.95
Features
36 CFM PowerCooler Fan
All copper fins and base
Thermal pad applied to heatsink (Never use the pad use artic silver instead!) http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=120199&Product _Code=5044


EPOX EP-8K7A Motherboard. AMD-761 + VIA 686B AGPset. For AMD Processors. UltraDMA-100. 200/266MHz FSB. 2 DDR-SDRAM(PC266). 6 PCI, 1 AGP. Built-in AC97 Audio. ATX. Retail box. Fedex Saver Shipping $6.00 $124.00 total $130


MSI StarForce 831, GeForce2 Pro, 64MB DDR RAM, 5.5 ns. Heat Sink, High Quality Fan and 4 pins TV Out Cable 4X/2X AGP, bundled with 1 S-Video Cable, 1 MSI DVD & 3D Turbo 2000 Utilities, on board (S-Video) TV-out, Retail Box. ETA 07-2-2001 Fedex Saver Shipping $10.00
$142.00 total $152

Philips Acoustic Edge, for US$62 + US$5 for shipping at http://www.sr-systems.com/SoundSound_Cards.html


Didn`t see a power supply so heres a real good one.
Enermax EG365P-VE Fan Control 350Watt ATX Power Supply
Code: 7104
Price: $68.99 http://www.crazypc.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=120199&Product _Code=7104

Didn`t see a Cd burner adding one come in handy at college!

Plextor 16x10x40 CDRW PlexWriter Internal EIDE CDRW (Drive Only) comes with Adaptec CDRW Software and Mounting Screws The PlexWriter 16/10/40A delivers what other companies only talk about true, unmatched 16X write capability from core to edge of a CD. PC World Product of the Year! Fedex Saver Shipping $10.00 $170.00 total $180.00

Get it from Crucial because its only $59 fir 256 stick of PC2100 and free shipping.

DO NOT GET THE 75GXP HD loud and craps out fast...make SURE its the 60GXP model. http://www.store-builder.com/jazztechnology/P_123.htm
Price here is US$108 + US$14 or more for shipping.




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Faster than freedom more nasty than hell.
King of the NV-Golden knights, slayers of the ATI Heretics
System 1
Iwill 266 /266 fsb
Amd Thunderbird 1.33ghz
Wbk38
Ram 1 gig DDR pc 2100 cas 2.5 (Yup I like ram! hey it`s cheap)
Winfast Geforce 3
Santacruz (sound card)
Hd 1:60 gig GXP
Hd 2:60gig 60 Gxp
Hd 3:20 gig Maxtor
Hd 4:80 gig Maxtor
Cd Burner:Plextor 16x 12x 40x
Dvd:16x Toshibia
Case:Tornado 3003 w/
431 watt pps
Monitor:21 inch mon .22
Max refresh 1856 x 1392 max resolution @ 80Hz

[This message has been edited by mrsinster (edited June 27, 2001).]

thanks

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Originally posted by richardginn:
isn't the ram going to be under 60 bucks still if he uses 2d day air.

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They charge taxes on nearly half the states (most of the major ones) so that boost up the price. This is for Crucial RAM, so check whether you live in the taxed or non-taxed state.
Do not get Kingston Ram, iun a shoout out for DDR RAm, Mushkin and Crucial were the leaders, and as Mushkin is way 2 expensive, get Crucial

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The most reliable way of predicting the future is to invent it.


*************************
NEW RIG:-

Hypersonic-PC SOnic Boom A/V

*AMD TBird 1.4 Ghz
*Asus A7M266 AMD-761 Mobo
*Crucial PC2100 256MB DDR RAM
*40GB IBM Deskstar 60GXP *Pioneer 16X DVD ROM/40X CD-ROM Drive 1 (Requested slot-loading)
*Visiontek Geforce3 64MB DDR
*Philips Acoustic Edge 5.1
*Mid Tower Case w/ 300W Power Supply
*Thermaltake Mini Super Orb DU0462-8 w/ Artic Silver
*Klipsch ProMedia 2.1

Current:-
PIII 600
Dell XPS T600
440BX w/AGP board
256 SDRAM PC100
Hardrive : 20GB
SB Live! Value
Altec Lansing ASC 330
64MB Radeon OEM
6x TOSHIBA DVD-ROM
Sony Trinitron 17"
Cordless Logitech Mouseman Wheel
Cordless Logitech Keyboard
Windows 98SE

[This message has been edited by saury316 (edited June 27, 2001).]

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Originally posted by saury316:
They charge taxes on nearly half the states (most of the major ones) so that boost up the price. This is for Crucial ram though (dats what I was thnking yopu wer gettign) they make the best DDR Ram, with Mushkin of course but they are SUPER expoensive sooo CRUCAIL all the way.

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The most reliable way of predicting the future is to invent it.


*************************
NEW RIG:-

Hypersonic-PC SOnic Boom A/V

*AMD TBird 1.4 Ghz
*Asus A7M266 AMD-761 Mobo
*Crucial PC2100 256MB DDR RAM
*40GB IBM Deskstar 60GXP *Pioneer 16X DVD ROM/40X CD-ROM Drive 1 (Requested slot-loading)
*Visiontek Geforce3 64MB DDR
*Philips Acoustic Edge 5.1
*Mid Tower Case w/ 300W Power Supply
*Thermaltake Mini Super Orb DU0462-8 w/ Artic Silver
*Klipsch ProMedia 2.1

Current:-
PIII 600
Dell XPS T600
440BX w/AGP board
256 SDRAM PC100
Hardrive : 20GB
SB Live! Value
Altec Lansing ASC 330
64MB Radeon OEM
6x TOSHIBA DVD-ROM
Sony Trinitron 17"
Cordless Logitech Mouseman Wheel
Cordless Logitech Keyboard
Windows 98SE