Castle Wolfenstein Single Player - too tedious?

I've heard a lot of different opinions on this game. One opinion...is that the single player is too tedious and too difficult. People complain that many of the levels are like walking on egg-shells all the time, and there's not enough "blow-em-up!" mentality to it.

Personally, I feel that's exactly what makes this game so great. I'm currently in Mission 7, and I find the Single Player game to be remarkably fun and challenging. There's a lot more puzzle solving and stealth to the game than I had expected, and I gotta say it's a pleasant surprise.

From what I've seen on other forums, I'm starting to feel like I'm a minority in this opinion. So I'm just curoius what you guys have to say on the matter.

I agree with you to the fullest. I've heard about the same opinions, that it was a very ordinary single- player experience, and that you would get bored with it before getting to the end. It was uninspiring and so on, but still good, and the real reason to buy the game was to get the multiplayer part.

I'm now at the end or so of Mission 3, and I'm actually enjoying it very much. It has great graphics, and for the first time about since DOOM when it comes to games from id (I know the didn't make the game, but it's till their game in some sense) great sound, heavy,beefy and realistic sound effects, a great variation of missions and enemies that can take some sort of realistic amount of damage before going down, and that stays true for your character as well.

I'm surprised that I like this game as much as I do, considering that I'm much more into the FPS genre that Rogue Spear and Ghost Recon stands for, but I sure hope that the fun lasts until the end of this game!

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in regard to single player wolf

I feel that single player is great
I compare it to single player Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force
most will agree with me that the single player action was some of the best ever
but it was so short that it wasn't able to satisfy
RTCW id the same way
gameplayis geat
good variety
great continuous story
some decent puzzles

overall it all boils down to "quality over quantity"
some people are used to Hours and Hours of repetitive play
IMO if the gameplay sux it doesn't matter how much of it there is

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tedious, ha. rehashed yes

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RtCW is one of the funnest single player FPS games I can remember playing.

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Originally posted by ZooL:
tedious, ha. rehashed yes

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What do you mean by rehashed? I think it's prety original, and well done.

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Originally posted by Grizzly:
What do you mean by rehashed? I think it's prety original, and well done.

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Dont listen to him he must be one of those guys blabbering about how wolfy is a rehashed KingPin(due to the fact its made by same developer and some sound effects are the same,big deal)
Dont even bother with him dude thats a ridcoulous thing what he said to you.

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are you kidding? you must not play alot of fps then. the game is a rehash of all the previous fps we have played before. i would like to know whats so orginal about it. There are certain aspects of the game that are well done, like the flamer thrower and the ummm, yah thats it.

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Okay, so it's not 100% original...boil it all down and yes, it's nothing more than yet another 1st person shooter.

But from what I see, RTCF takes everything that makes 1st person shooters fun, and did it *even* better. Every last detail of the game reeks of quality, and yes, the flame thrower is simply the greatest thing ever introduced into the world of video games. Many games have tried to implement a flame thrower before...but have failed miserably. RTCF did it oooooh so right.

On top of that, I find the Sniper Rifles (Mauser and OSA Snooper) to be top notch. Once again...I've never seen a game do such a weapon so incredibly well. I've used the Mauser for at least 85% of my kills, if not more. I've never had a Sniper Rifle feel so right before, they really hit the nail on the head IMO.

What feels pretty original to me is the incredible level design. Secret areas are *really* creative at times. How the "bad-guys" react, and pop up out of nowhere, and sneak up behind you is simply awesome.

Now...keep in mind that I'm no 1st person shooter newbie. I played Quake2 competatively for a number of years, and spent countless hours playing Half-life throughout my college career. I've played just about every shooter since the original Wolfenstein (which I played religiously btw). But RTCF...to me...stands head and shoulders above them all.

[This message has been edited by Grizzly (edited December 30, 2001).]

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Originally posted by ZooL:
are you kidding? you must not play alot of fps then. the game is a rehash of all the previous fps we have played before. i would like to know whats so orginal about it. There are certain aspects of the game that are well done, like the flamer thrower and the ummm, yah thats it.

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Most GOOD FPS games are "rehashed" if you want to call it that. Return to Castle Wolfenstein was inspired by the original, Wolfenstein 3D. In fact it's basically a remake, not a sequal. Since MOST FPS games sprung from Wolf3D and Doom, obviously it's going to give the impression of "rehashed".

Gray Matter had to keep to the original, retaining some of the old Wolfenstein element, while providing something new and fresh, a very FUN game, not overly easy, not dragged out to long, and with replay value. The weapons are original, as are the missions.

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Originally posted by Grizzly:
Okay, so it's not 100% original...boil it all down and yes, it's nothing more than yet another 1st person shooter.

But from what I see, RTCF takes everything that makes 1st person shooters fun, and did it *even* better. Every last detail of the game reeks of quality, and yes, the flame thrower is simply the greatest thing ever introduced into the world of video games. Many games have tried to implement a flame thrower before...but have failed miserably. RTCF did it oooooh so right.

On top of that, I find the Sniper Rifles (Mauser and OSA Snooper) to be top notch. Once again...I've never seen a game do such a weapon so incredibly well. I've used the Mauser for at least 85% of my kills, if not more. I've never had a Sniper Rifle feel so right before, they really hit the nail on the head IMO.

What feels pretty original to me is the incredible level design. Secret areas are *really* creative at times. How the "bad-guys" react, and pop up out of nowhere, and sneak up behind you is simply awesome.

Now...keep in mind that I'm no 1st person shooter newbie. I played Quake2 competatively for a number of years, and spent countless hours playing Half-life throughout my college career. I've played just about every shooter since the original Wolfenstein (which I played religiously btw). But RTCF...to me...stands head and shoulders above them all.

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I'll agree with most of that...except that, while the flame thrower was the best done weapon, and definetly best looking, it's hard to use, and only has good functionality against the zombies (which you don't face much of after you actually get the flamer.)

I also ended up using the mauser for most of my kills, and the Sten for most of the rest. Only when the enemies have a lot of hit points, did I use the Panzerfaust and Venom.

However, as was brought up in a thread in Gaming Help, the autoaim feature in the one mission is very irratating. It's that mission where you have to steal the experimental plane - when sniping, you can fire anywhere up to about a meter away from the target and still hit.

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Originally posted by Grizzly:
Okay, so it's not 100% original...boil it all down and yes, it's nothing more than yet another 1st person shooter.

But from what I see, RTCF takes everything that makes 1st person shooters fun, and did it *even* better. Every last detail of the game reeks of quality, and yes, the flame thrower is simply the greatest thing ever introduced into the world of video games. Many games have tried to implement a flame thrower before...but have failed miserably. RTCF did it oooooh so right.

On top of that, I find the Sniper Rifles (Mauser and OSA Snooper) to be top notch. Once again...I've never seen a game do such a weapon so incredibly well. I've used the Mauser for at least 85% of my kills, if not more. I've never had a Sniper Rifle feel so right before, they really hit the nail on the head IMO.

What feels pretty original to me is the incredible level design. Secret areas are *really* creative at times. How the "bad-guys" react, and pop up out of nowhere, and sneak up behind you is simply awesome.

Now...keep in mind that I'm no 1st person shooter newbie. I played Quake2 competatively for a number of years, and spent countless hours playing Half-life throughout my college career. I've played just about every shooter since the original Wolfenstein (which I played religiously btw). But RTCF...to me...stands head and shoulders above them all.

[This message has been edited by Grizzly (edited December 30, 2001).]

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ditto to all of it...
my only comment to add, would be that the story in deus ex was better... but then, it was relatively in a class of its own with the character development and other things..

The ROTCW can be a considered a rehash since it is a remake of the ultimate classic..
This said I love te way the enemy reacts to what you do.. can be frustrating.. in quake the enemy waits for no matter if you making racket with weapons, same with q2...
If make the wrong sound or movement .. you are in fro some fun.. https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/6.gif

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its not that its just a rehash, its a game set in an actual historical time period, and if a game is be based off that i want it to be accurate or not at all. Wolf3d was fun back in the day when i didnt really know better https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif

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Originally posted by ZooL:
are you kidding? you must not play alot of fps then. the game is a rehash of all the previous fps we have played before. i would like to know whats so orginal about it. There are certain aspects of the game that are well done, like the flamer thrower and the ummm, yah thats it.

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Good joke.
You know its hypocritical to say something like that.
If its true then I guess every @#%#@%ing FPS out there is a rehash.
I swear some of things ppl take in consideration on judging a game amaze me.
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from my expereince. I am on Mission 5. I loved the single player and I mean it. I was shocked one time. I threw a bomb at one guard and I was not too far from him and he was facing me and you know what he kicked it back at me!!!!!! I was like ***. I hate throwing bombs at them because it never get to them unless I time it right they will actully run away from the bomb. I like the AI. Ofoucrse they are sometimes a little doggy but overall I am very pleased.

I really love it and it is cool. I really recommended and if it is reharshed I would say it is a good damn good reharsh one.

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ganja, I guess all fps can be considered rehash's in one way or another, it just depends on who adds the most unique elements to make it stand out. RTCW is a bad rehash, because your suppose to take old content and make it into something new. other than the graphics, whats new? i dont know about you guys but i need more substance in my fps's.

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I dunno... it was a good game, but the bad part for me was the plot, like at the end, after I was done, I felt like I wasted my time... ehhh oh well, multiplayer still rox

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Its not neccesarily a bad thing that its just another rehashed FPS. At least its done well. Its also dumbed down too much. The levels are almost entirely linear. It has the obligatory sneak mission. With the gondola section I'd say it borrows a lot from NOLF. Like many FPS games you can carry some obsene arsenal of weapons everywhere without it even slowing you down. The only thing that the game really has going for it is high production quality. It doesn't add anything new to the FPS genre. At least Max Payne had bullet time. What was unique to RTCW?

I am into the sneak/think type of FPS's. This game does a good job of mixing a bit of sneaking/sniping with a lot of action. It was a good gaming experience but not one that I'll remember in a year.

If the game was two times as long then I wouldn't feel like I got robbed. As it is, I paid about $5 per hour of enjoyment that I got out of it.

So in my opinion the game had great gameplay, but was a horrible value, and added nothing new and unique to the genre. I would personally give it a 7/10 but only because it was fun to play.

basing my experience off the demo...I thought it was a really cool game...and I wanted more...but I don't have $40 to spend on a game right now

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