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now the game is capture the flag right, which means that your going to try to defend your base right? so If im near the front of my base and someone runs into it isnt it natural for me to decide to "give chase" and kill the bastard before he gets to my flag???
But NO according to all the kiddies im a DMing whore :mad: :mad: sometimes I wonder why I bother to play online anymore :(
What game is this?
me too. personally i think it's acceptable to do anything to protect your flag cuz it's the objective of the game. by anything I really mean anything eg. very unfair fights, exploiting game glitches etc etc
i really think it's messed up that people place so many unspoken rules in games. imho if it can be done then by all means do it. it's just a game, not some kind of sport. there's no need to be gaming ethics or whatever simply because it is a game and it doesn't matter at all. do whatever you want, including cheating.
read my lips: "it's just a game"
At least they don't complain about Sentries :)
In the case of TFC, at least.
I hope I never run into you playing online because that is a ludicrous attitude toward cheating. If you had any logically reason for taking that stance that made any kind of sense, I might consider arguing, but you don't so I won't.Quote:
Originally posted by dighn
me too. personally i think it's acceptable to do anything to protect your flag cuz it's the objective of the game. by anything I really mean anything eg. very unfair fights, exploiting game glitches etc etc
i really think it's messed up that people place so many unspoken rules in games. imho if it can be done then by all means do it. it's just a game, not some kind of sport. there's no need to be gaming ethics or whatever simply because it is a game and it doesn't matter at all. do whatever you want, including cheating.
read my lips: "it's just a game"
I agree with dighn, but he didn't say cheating. Exploiting a game glitch is not cheating. It's the game's fault not theirs. In my view, they are just doing it over and over by "accident". :DQuote:
Originally posted by Paladyr
I hope I never run into you playing online because that is a ludicrous attitude toward cheating. If you had any logically reason for taking that stance that made any kind of sense, I might consider arguing, but you don't so I won't.
And I agree with everything that he said.
No offence, but
All kids are selfish.
They always find excuses, no matter how ridiculous it is.
i also dont like people who complain about camping... i think its an integral part of many games....
as long as your not the last guy alove or doing something obviously pointless... I am all for camping
Yep. Camping should be acceptable under any circumstances. You can camp therefore you may camp. If the developers didn't want you to camp, they design the game so that you die if you camp.Quote:
Originally posted by kpxgq
i also dont like people who complain about camping... i think its an integral part of many games....
as long as your not the last guy alove or doing something obviously pointless... I am all for camping
I especially hate the C.T. whiners in "cs_" maps in C.S. The terrorists are supposed to guard the hostages. They are supposed to camp.
People always whine and moan about the things others do in games. What they don't seem to realize is that whining isn't going to help the situation. Just think "it's only a game."
ahhhh....
I dont give a flying f*** (censors self) what they say I will get the weasels out at all costs...
come near my homebase and gonna find ya self gibbed...
and I will chase you and hunt you down like a dog... :mad: :mad: :mad:
when you play in matches for leagues like sta or tfl chasing is good to a certain point..I mean if they have the flag and they are getting out...then yeah...everyone has a right to hunt him down and chase him...but when the flag gets into the other other teams yard....it's not only annoying for the offensive people but it's also kind of stupid on your part because the place where you defended is now open so now the other teams offense now has an easy way to get into the base..and once the flag is capped they'll have a better chance of getting the flag (because your not there to defend it...and your running back to your base or killing yourself to get your health + ammo back) and thereby when you chase across the map to the other side...you screw yourself...and the team...
I have never been accused of anything when I give chase in any game. It is absolutely retarded to think that giving chase to someone who took your damn flag is breaking an unspoken rule. Anyone who says that does not know the meaning of CAPTURE THE FLAG.
Camping in games where the mode is DM is pitiful. However, games based around CTF are under the premise of guarding a certain item, which means a guard/sentry is defending that position, it is not camping and perfectly acceptable.
Giving chase is also totally acceptable in games like CTF. If they are entering your base, or trying to leave the base with your flag, hunt 'em down and kill them. That's the name of the game.
PintlesS, I see what you are talking about, but it doesn't pertain to this. What you are talking is poor strategy, not people whining about rules because you gave chase.
people are complaining about chasing? ***
w-t-f is censored? ***.
Yeah, I agree. I've played CS since the earlier Betas, so I know my way around the game. I started playing again about a year ago, and I'm pretty good. I was constantly getting accused of cheating on just about every server I went to, so I had to play on my clan's server.
One time I joined a server (lapd) and was one of two living CT people on de_prodigy. As I bought ammo, my teammate died, so it was my with armor and a usp against 4 ts with rifles and I didn't know where they were. So I stayed at base to prevent a plant (or to immediately rush to the other base). I killed all four of the other team, including the lapd-clan guy. Then he accuses me of camping! So I start to defend myself, and his team rushes me as I'm typing. So I kill five of them, and he says, "See you are camping!" I waste almost his entire team (4 or 5 out of 6 people, I think) the next round. So some of them join the CTs, and I auto to the T team with this guy. I start the next round by doing a knife rush all the way into the CT base, kill half their team and plant. And he STILL accuses me of camping because I stayed with the bomb!!! The next round I did the same rush, but two CTs setup an ambush. I stopped for a second and took out 1 ct and then was shooting at the other when he jumps out in front at the last minute to steal my kill (not a big deal, since I don't play for kills). I then rush ahead of the rest and kill the remaining three CTs. But then he yells at someone for blocking him in, and another guy apologizes. But he says, "Not you, the ***hole knows who he is!" So I said, "Grow up, kid," and left. Still annoying to deal with.
Hmm I pretty much agree with what most people are saying, anything to protect the flag... blah blah blah... no actual cheating (scripts, cheats, etc)... no problem with giving chase, or even camping to some extent. But for example in UT, I really think its unfair for someone to sit at a teleporter with the hammer and wait for you to pop in. I dunno, hide up high and blow me up when i round the corner... but at least give me a chance... but... eh whatever, as long as you're not changing the program to cheat i guess fairs fair.
:) plus i suck so its not like I was gonna get far anyways.
pps. Do they really censor ***?
I had to go while writing my first post, but here is what I was going to say. After playing CS for the last year, I quit because I got fed up with it (well, and because I won't have an Internet connection this summer). But after that I tried messing around with TFC a few times. It had been years since I've played TFC, but now my old strategies can no longer be used. Half the things I would do would result in people calling me a "llama." Some of the time they would ban me from the server just for doing something that their server didn't approve of. This is just stupid. I can see exploits like sky walking or whatnot, but just doing things like going into your opponents base to kill their snipers instead of getting the flag is ridiculous. Valve hasn't changed most of the basic game mechanics since the original TFC release, so I'm guessing they don't find any of the classic strats to be cheap or cheating or whatever.
Complaining newbs are very annoying indeed. I don't know how many of you have played tribes but it is not much unlike other teamplay online games. The most common way to play is CTF. If you die, you spawn back at or near your base. I run across people on a regular basis who complain because someone is guarding their flag. What the heck, that is the point. Now if you sit outside and snipe spawn points then yeah that is cheap. I don't care if people sit outside to snipe, just don't shoot me as soon as I spawn, give me a chance to fly a few hundred yards (1 second) and shoot you between the eyes. One plus is that those who complain are usually very good target practice. I was playing earlier me alone on my team vs 3 on the other team. They complained about me camping (which makes no sense because I was the only one on my team and camping would have completely knocked out my offense) but I just ignored them and laughed at the end of the match when my score was 46 and the others combined were less than 10.
I cant stand people that complain about camping,chasing,or exploiting a game fault. Last night my friend and i were playing Soldier Of Fortune 2, he was hiding in a cubicle and he killed 4 guys, one of them was the ADMIN and he said no more camping or your booted. Next round my friend was hiding in the elevator shaft and sniped him, he booted him. That was complete crap and are whole team of 7 people all logged off and joined a different server. Its the only way to get back at jackasses like him.
I say anything goes as long as your not 'really' cheating. People who complain about chasing of all things are just plain crappy players.. How lame..