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Is that fo realz?
That doesn't look like a cpu...
Now that i look at it, i think it looks like some kind of a controller chip...Quote:
Originally posted by lightbulb8817
That doesn't look like a cpu...
That's what I was thinking. They wouldn't share their "top secret" technology with each other.Quote:
Originally posted by Shadowfire
Now that i look at it, i think it looks like some kind of a controller chip...
It can even be a chip for cell phone, etc. :p
Maybe its going to be a postage stamp?
LMAO :)
Check the copyright years.
Old schoolers will know what it is.
thats pretty damn old school considering i want even born until right after 82
Anyone wanna enlighten us young'uns to what that is?? I'm kinda curious :confused:
Please, enlighten us. I'm totally clueless.
it may be an 386 CPU clone, but there's nothing to show its relative size so i can't be certain.
After Intel developed the first x86 chip, the 8086, several companies liscensed the technology from Intel and made clones. These chips weren't like an Athlon versus a Pentium 4, rather they were nearly identical versions of Intel's CPUs produced by other companies. Several companies did this, notably some of the Japanese companies (Hitachi etc.) who Intel had fought with before getting out of the memory business just years earlier. There were also some American companies (most of whom aren't around today) and one of these was AMD. This particular chip looks like a 186 (obvious from the model number). It has the AMD manufactured mark, but since the chip was essentially designed by Intel, it bears the Intel copyright instead of the AMD copyright like say a K6 or Athlon.
This was actually quite common early on before most of the companies got out of the x86 market around the time of the 386/486, and you're left with basically three companies, Intel, AMD and Cyrix (do they count?). Even AMD pretty much only made clones before the K5. It made sense as process technologies got so advanced that to keep up with the latest designs meant having the latest fabrication technologies. For example, today there's very few companies that could fabricate say a .13 Pentium 4 in volume. So technically, a long long time ago Intel and AMD did make a chip together ;). Hope that clears things up.
A google search for the first string on the chip results in this:
http://www3pub.amd.com/products/epd/...6fam/1.80c186/
And my best guess for the INTEL copyright would be that AMD licensed something from them to use in this controller chip.
Thats exactly right. When Intel released the 186/188 it never really took of in the PC marketplace. The 186 was basically intended as a replacement for the 8086, and the 188 for the 8088 which were 16 bit internal and 16 and 8 bit external respectively. The 286 replaced both these models. The 18x series did however find a home in embedded applications that didn't need much more then DOS or DOS like funcitonality. Everything from traffic lights to archaic "portable" devices used the 186 and Intel later released a few never versions like the C seires specifically for the microcontroller market, despite it being a fully capable albeit dated microprocessor.Quote:
Originally posted by Skywize
A google search for the first string on the chip results in this:
http://www3pub.amd.com/products/epd/...6fam/1.80c186/
And my best guess for the INTEL copyright would be that AMD licensed something from them to use in this controller chip.
Here's a link:
http://developer.intel.com/design/in...ref/272222.htm
P.S. As I noted in my previous post, it is a 186, but it appears to be the C version. I believe this predated the EX version, but don't quote me on that. I'm just guessing because the link above states the EX started at 25Mhz while the chip in question appears to be a 20Mhz varient.
I'm no old schooler, I just came into this stuff a couple years ago. Yet I managed to figure it out.
C = Copyright: Intel
M = Manufacturer: AMD
Like was said above, it's just an old clone chip.
Random observation: My title is "Expensive Sushi". I just happen to be eating sushi right now. And it certainly was not cheap either. :)
Thanks for the enlightenment. And I thought it was Photoshopped...
So if I want to complain about the traffic lights in my area do I call INTEL or AMD? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Ramuman
Everything from traffic lights to archaic "portable" devices used the 186
Prior to the 486 AMD had an agreement with Intel that allowed them to use Intel’s masks in its chip production. Intel did all the design work and AMD acted as a second manufacturer for the processor. The chips themselves were identical right down to transistor placement because AMD used the same photo masks Intel’s fabs used to produce the chip. (IOW the whole chip was an exact copy of the Intel version.)Quote:
Originally posted by Skywize
A google search for the first string on the chip results in this:
http://www3pub.amd.com/products/epd/...6fam/1.80c186/
And my best guess for the INTEL copyright would be that AMD licensed something from them to use in this controller chip.
The 80186 is a full fledged X86 processor in its own right, it was just never popular in the role of CPU for desktop PCs. (I understand Tandy made some partially IBM compatibles with it though.)
he he, a cookie for Ramuman. :)
I believe you're right Moridin. I'm pretty sure a friend of mine had a 186 Tandy computer.
Ahh, those were the days :)
God that is old.
That is pre 1 megabyte video card days.
heh...that's pre 640k system memory daysQuote:
Originally posted by richardginn
God that is old.
That is pre 1 megabyte video card days.