The KT7 supports 133/33. Are there other reasons the XP wont work?
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The KT7 supports 133/33. Are there other reasons the XP wont work?
and far as I know it won't work. the bios doesn't support it, only up to t-bird 1.4GHz if you have the latest version
I`m using a KT7A ....and I`m with an XP1700+
Works perfectly but you got to have rev 1.3 of the mobo.
Thanks. Mine's the KT133 not the a, but its looking promising.Quote:
Originally posted by Emanuele
I`m using a KT7A ....and I`m with an XP1700+
Works perfectly but you got to have rev 1.3 of the mobo.
cant find a revision mark on the board. i'll check the bios later.
The KT7 is a KT133 chipset and doesn't support 133MHz FSB. The KT7A is based on the KT133A and does support the 133MHz FSB, but you need to have a V1.3 board and latest BIOS for support.
OK. i just checked the bios again. It doesnt have a manual switch for 100/33 to 133/33 but in the auto SPD settings the last 3 are
12x__=1200(100)
13x__>=1300(100)
9.5/13x__>=1400(133)
Also in user defined settings under Hostclock/PCIclock it goes from 133/40 to 136/34 so seems to have a 4:1 divider.
I dont think its a KT7a since there's no default 4:1 manual swicth but im not 100% sure. But this should work right? Does it really need a bios update?
Know where i can find the revision number? all i can see on the board are a couple of digits just below the northbridge stamped in black ink. T3 & B1
The main label just says ABIT KT7.
If it were a KT133a whould it say ABIT KT7a?
got this board second hand.
BTW it does have a Hostclock to Host+PCI switch for the memory.
Hmm, im going to find a small mirror.
http://home.iprimus.com.au/gbcobber/Image/kt7id.jpg
Pretty much all of the KT133 boards have a 133MHz FSB option, but none of them could run that fast. Most systems were able to make 105-110MHz FSB, and a few made like ~115-118MHz FSB, but the KT133A was released specifically to address that inability of the KT133 chipset. The KT7 was KT133 and KT7A was the 133A. Without the 133A chipset, V1.3 board, and latest BIOS, it's not gonna happen...sorry. :(
OK. managed to read it with a CD.
Its the same as the one in the picture. KT7-RAID v1.01
So is this the final doom? Is there definitly no way an XP will work in this board? I dont care if its not fully supported as long as it runs.
Hmm. Thats the problem huh? Got to 122FSB without too much trouble but havnet unlocked the duron yet to try 133. I think your right tho. I can do 120 at 1.75v which is default vcore for a morgan but it wont boot over 124 with 1.8v. Maybe i can unlock the XP and run it at 120Mhz or just settle for the downclock till i get a new board. If it runs without the XP bios i'd still be happy.Quote:
Originally posted by Un4given
Pretty much all of the KT133 boards have a 133MHz FSB option, but none of them could run that fast. Most systems were able to make 105-110MHz FSB, and a few made like ~115-118MHz FSB, but the KT133A was released specifically to address that inability of the KT133 chipset. The KT7 was KT133 and KT7A was the 133A. Without the 133A chipset, V1.3 board, and latest BIOS, it's not gonna happen...sorry. :(
Eventually i'll try it anyway :D
It won't. Even those with actual KT7A boards were SOL if they had a version of the board prior to V1.3, so I don't see it happening.Quote:
Originally posted by GB_Cobber
Hmm. Thats the problem huh? Got to 122FSB without too much trouble but havnet unlocked the duron yet to try 133. I think your right tho. I can do 120 at 1.75v which is default vcore for a morgan but i cant get over 124 with 1.8v. Maybe i can unlock the XP and run it at 120Mhz or just settle for the downclock till i get a new board. If it runs without the XP bios i'd still be happy.
I think I detect the upgrade bug byting some one. ;)
hehe, yeah. cant play 1942 at 400% unit count. tops out at about 200 with 15% AI time to CPU for smooth gameplay with max view distance.Quote:
Originally posted by Un4given
It won't. Even those with actual KT7A boards were SOL if they had a version of the board prior to V1.3, so I don't see it happening.
I think I detect the upgrade bug byting some one. ;)
Thats not good enough :mad:
What kind of upgrade budget were you looking at?
Im not going to mess around with cheap universal mobo's.
It'l be at least an 8K5a2 or better. Guess i'll just have to save faster. Lots of stuff on the list. GF4, a decent soundcard etc. My 20G HDD is too small. Dont even have a DVD yet :)
There is actually a physical difference in the KT7 and KT7a boards prior to the KT7a v1.3 that make it difficult (if not impossible) to support the XP. It has something to do with the startup voltage and needing some sort of delay or some such. I've forgotten where the link is, but there is a difference in the way the TBird and the XPs handle startup voltage. The v1.2 and earlier boards don't know how to handle it properly.
Now, if you had a KT7a (possibly even some KT7s, too, but you'd be stuck at 100mhz FSB default), sometimes you can get the XP to work. I've seen cases of v1.1 and v1.2 boards running Athlon XPs.
I have a KT7a v1.0 and I tried everything, including all availible BIOSes, and couldn't get my XP 1800+ to work. It may be a power supply issue that can resolve the XP in pre-v1.3 boards, but I just don't know.
I hate to have to suggest a motherboard upgrade, because then you've got to look at all new RAM, but thats pretty much were you are right now. Or, you could do just what I've done, and buy a TBird 1.4ghz for fairly cheap and run that and be satisfied. Thats what I've had to settle for.
Thanks mellojoe. thats pretty much what i wanted to know.
I guess i could buy an XP for my sister and use her 1.4G TB.
The 1.4 is unlocked of course so its exactly what i need.
Looks like the best way to go and it will make us both happy.
I just got the XP1700+ t-bred last night, KT7A, latest bios, BUT it is not ver 1.3,pleasant surprise that it works.
Yes my xp works in my kt7a rev 1.1 BUT it gets very unstable at 100% load at 133fsb. I keep mine at 100fsb to run stable until I get money for an upgrade. I also have tried many things for it to work, even my bios knows its a 1600+ but there is no known way to be happy with this combo......