I have a Hercules TI500.
Just wondering how much better a TI4200 would be over the TI500. They're meant to be kinda similar in performance aren't they??
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I have a Hercules TI500.
Just wondering how much better a TI4200 would be over the TI500. They're meant to be kinda similar in performance aren't they??
No not really. You should read some reviews (Toms had a really nice one not so long ago) but usually you'll see about a 30% or more increase with a ti4200. Especially when teamed up with a beefy CPU.
I would suggest anyone already running Geforce3 Ti500 speeds shouldn't bother with an upgrade unless you go for the Ti4600 or Radeon 9700. Overclocking both the Ti500 and the Ti4200 the speed difference isn't really worth the price of a new video card. I am in the same boat as you, very tempted by the low price of the Ti4200. But I have to remind myself that all my games run plenty fast, and if I shell out money for a new card I want to be blown away, not just a little faster.
The Ti4200 will give you much faster gaming results. If you are seriously thinking about getting a new card, I would also recommend the Ti4600 or the Radeon 9700. Good luck. ;)
add the 9500 pro and throw the 4600 out of the recommendation list if you can wait a week or so before getting the new card.
Or....why not get the Albatron Ti 4200P Turbo and overclock to 4600 speeds? :D
If you can get in on Best Buy's $89 GeForce4 Ti4200 deal then I would grab that and then sell your GF3 Ti500. You will almost break even.
You could actually make some money. AFAIK GF3 ti500's are still selling for over $100, especially if you got some good software and bundle with it. I think asking $100 isn't too much for a Ti500. ;):DQuote:
Originally posted by jagojago12
If you can get in on Best Buy's $89 GeForce4 Ti4200 deal then I would grab that and then sell your GF3 Ti500. You will almost break even.
Yes!!! You took the words out of my mouth!! :)Quote:
Originally posted by Nightstalker_2hc
Or....why not get the Albatron Ti 4200P Turbo and overclock to 4600 speeds? :D
Thanks for the great advice guys!
It's a difficult one. I was hoping the TI500 would last out until the NV30 is available. But things usually take an extra month to appear on the shelves here in Perth, Australia. At the moment the ole TI500 is still going very well and I'm not too concerned. But I know that Unreal 2 is going test the card severely. UT2003 already brings my framerates dangerously low in a FEW places. But I view that as the ageing signs beginning. The trouble is that a lot of computer businesses shut down over Christmas and a good chunk of January here In Perth. I don't wanna get stuck over that period.
I wouldnt sweat it. UT2 is a CPU hog as are most other new games ive played. My 32MB ultra still does the job fine but i need more CPU power for all the AI in games like UT2 with 16 bots, BF1942 with 400% unit count and mafia etc. Another 32MB of video memory would help too but I just lower the texture detail and its still fine.
If i had a ti500 i wouldnt be upgrading that at least until NV30 comes at a reasonable price. Or if i bought myself a 21" monitor.
In 1024-32 im still happy with my card.
I think you would get a much better overall performance boost with a bigger CPU. Dont forget recent benchmarks are performed on 2.5Ghz+ CPU's.
Please, for all that is good and sane in the universe, do not purchase any of the GF4 line when you've got a ti500.
http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic...charts-01.html
While this review may be old, I think it's fair to say that the GF3 and 4 series should benefit about the same amount from driver updates.
I guess I'll just let you look at the numbers and decide for yourself, but whoever said you could expect ~30% more from a 4200...well...that was pure bull plop.
I guess if you could sell your ti500 for a good bit of money and only pay ~$10 more for your 4200 it'd make some sense, but just to drop that much money on any of the gf4 line would be ridiculuous...and were I a friend of yours, I'd be sure to ridicule you plenty :).
If I were to upgrade right now from a Ti500, there would be 2 choices:
Radeon 9700
Radeon 9700 pro
That's it. Any less and it's a waste of money. If you can wait a bit, GF FX will probably be worth the upgrade.
Thank You!
Well it's good to see that you guys are all quite sane. I too would not consider anything in the geforce 4 line at the moment unless I can't play a game the way I like it (FULL DETAIL), or my TI500 blows up. At the moment I'm running a Thoroughbred 2200+ (A) Which is the the highest I can go with my EPOX 8KHA+. The Thouroughbred B will not work on the board (So Epox Says!).
What I'm worried about is if I find I need to bridge the gap for a few short months until the Geforce FX (NV30) hits here in Perth Australia, which WILL BE one to two months after it's out in the US. The Only game I can see causing this to happen at the moment is Unreal 2. DooM III I suppose too if the NV30 takes forever to come out.
I know I could gain performance in other areas but my ageing Hardware is throttled as far as it's gonna go. Besides I'm just waiting for the Nforce2 VS KT400A war winner to choose a new mobo. All I'd need is a stopgap solution to tide me over. So that'd be like TI4400 kinda stuff right, from the bargain bin If I could help it. OR do you guys think the TI500 will hold out until the NV30 hits?
A nice rule I like to follow is one VC per DirectX version. If you already have a DX8 card then its worthwile to wait for a DX9 card rather than just getting a faster DX8 card
Yea man I think you are fine with your Ti500 at least until NV30 comes out if you really wanna upgrade. I'ts not like you will be blown away with anything other than a 9700 at the moment. The main thing with that card is you can ramp all the visual settings and still run awesome framerates. Go look at some benches against the 4600 when the goodies are turned on. You will see that no other card can hang with it. So unless you wanna shell out some serious dough for a 9700 I would say stick with the Ti500 till NV30 (or next line of cards) comes out.
I supose Id wouldnt trade my card.. if I had a GF3... but as I have a measly GF2 Pro.. that gets 20FPS on UT2K3 at lowest resolution... well... :D I got myself a GF4 Ti4200.
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Originally posted by steppy76
add the 9500 pro and throw the 4600 out of the recommendation list if you can wait a week or so before getting the new card.
one of the worst suggestions ive seen in years
Why, becasue the 9500 pro is about 4400/4600 level without AA and Aniso, and trashed those 2 with it on...for less money than the 4600? Go read a review and get informed before you open your mouth.Quote:
Originally posted by Dasenergi
one of the worst suggestions ive seen in years
If you get the new BIOS for the 8KHA+, which is the same mobo I have, it will support the 2400+ and 2600+. Just to let you know if you didn't already :)
The ti500 is plenty fast for the time being. You can just down the res a little and turn off the goodies. The games will still be playable. Your card should hold you over very nicely till GFFX and the next radeon (R350) come to the market. Only problematic games are going to be Doom III and Unreal 2, but as I said, turn the res and detail down and they're still playable.
if i were you i wouldn't upgrade your ti500 to a ti4200, at tis moment you wouldn't spot any more performance between tis two, unless you ge for a ti4600, radeon9700 or even geforce fx, than i'd say you upgrade;)
I'm still running an original GF3 on a P3 1GHz and am waiting for early next year to upgrade video cards, (getting the rest of a new setup as I get cash :) ).
As pointed out, if you can recoop part of the purchase price, then it makes sense to upgrade from a Ti500 to a 4200.
I have to agree with you Steppy. Although in benchmarks the 9500pro sits at ti4400 levels, but when you enable FSAA and AS it performs remarkably.Quote:
Originally posted by steppy76
Why, becasue the 9500 pro is about 4400/4600 level without AA and Aniso, and trashed those 2 with it on...for less money than the 4600? Go read a review and get informed before you open your mouth.