YES! I finally have a good video card....

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03-26-2003, 01:00 PM
CadetLee

YES! I finally have a good video card....

http://cadetlee.techfeasibility.com/3dmark.gif

Downloading the newest Dets now..
03-26-2003, 01:28 PM
yiotis

And may i ask what kind of video card do you have?
03-26-2003, 01:38 PM
CadetLee

Quote:

Originally posted by yiotis
And may i ask what kind of video card do you have?

Under link "System Specs", of course.. ;)

64mb PNY Ti4200..but the new dets dropped me to 97**. Bah.
03-26-2003, 01:51 PM
Paladyr

Quote:

Originally posted by CadetLee

Under link "System Specs", of course.. ;)

64mb PNY Ti4200..but the new dets dropped me to 97**. Bah.

ew... stinky card :-P.

I guess I'm spoiled now... I would never go back to my 8500 :-P.
03-26-2003, 02:11 PM
2630Goon

I have that same card too.the 4200 is a good card,I love mine:)
03-26-2003, 02:33 PM
BlueOval

Ditto. :D So poo on you ATI fanboys. LOL :p
03-26-2003, 02:48 PM
CadetLee

Quote:

Originally posted by Paladyr

ew... stinky card :-P.

I guess I'm spoiled now... I would never go back to my 8500 :-P.

Can you do better for 95 bucks..?

Edit: New dets dropped me to 97**...went back to the ones I got 9991 with, and I only got 9940...any ideas on how to break 10k w/o overclocking the card?
03-26-2003, 02:51 PM
BlueOval

I broke 10k with no OC w/the 30.82's. Don't have the PNY, but do have a 4200 - see my sig.
03-26-2003, 03:01 PM
sapasion

Quote:

Originally posted by CadetLee

Can you do better for 95 bucks..?

Edit: New dets dropped me to 97**...went back to the ones I got 9991 with, and I only got 9940...any ideas on how to break 10k w/o overclocking the card?

Which set are you using? IMO 40.72 gives the highest scores. You can also drop you mipmap level to best performance which can result in a couple hundred extra points. Of course OCing the card which is quite safe could net you almost a thousand points if you can crank it high enough
03-26-2003, 03:02 PM
lonewolfroger

Have you tried the 40.72`s and the 40.52`s are good for benchmarking too.
03-26-2003, 03:06 PM
Paladyr

Quote:

Originally posted by CadetLee

Can you do better for 95 bucks..?

Nope! It is truly a great value :).
03-26-2003, 03:12 PM
CadetLee

Quote:

Originally posted by sapasion
Which set are you using? IMO 40.72 gives the highest scores. You can also drop you mipmap level to best performance which can result in a couple hundred extra points. Of course OCing the card which is quite safe could net you almost a thousand points if you can crank it high enough

I might o/c eventually...just have to get used to it :p

Would I see decent video performance increase if I cranked my FSB up some more? The highest temp I see is 43c (40c in a cool room..43 in a hot room) under full load. I do need a better power supply..but think I could hit 2.4Ghz?

Edit: Using the 4.0.7.2 drivers.
03-26-2003, 03:42 PM
CadetLee

Broke 10k! Dropped mipmap to best performance..haven't o/c'd yet.

http://cadetlee.techfeasibility.com/3dmark.jpg
03-26-2003, 04:13 PM
crashed13

Quote:

Originally posted by CadetLee

Can you do better for 95 bucks..?

Edit: New dets dropped me to 97**...went back to the ones I got 9991 with, and I only got 9940...any ideas on how to break 10k w/o overclocking the card?

You are sooooo close to 10k it must drive you nuts! You know what might do it for you,,set your ram timming from its stock

2.5-3-3-6 to 2-2-2-5

or just try setting the cas2.5 to 2 that may be enought.:)
03-26-2003, 06:13 PM
CadetLee

I hit 10k :D

My RAM is actually underclocked (PC2700 running at 133mhz)..think I could kick the timings to a more aggressive setting w/o any problem? Or..should I push my FSB? ;) :D
03-26-2003, 06:24 PM
crashed13

Quote:

Originally posted by CadetLee
I hit 10k :D

My RAM is actually underclocked (PC2700 running at 133mhz)..think I could kick the timings to a more aggressive setting w/o any problem? Or..should I push my FSB? ;) :D

I have a stick of Crucail and a stick of OEM "Exir" generic brand. Both sticks run fine at 2-2-2-5 from their stock settings of 2.5-3-3-6. So give it a try.:)
03-26-2003, 06:42 PM
CadetLee

I'm catching you...maybe eventually.. :p

Got 10324 this time :D

Updated screenshot on page one.
03-26-2003, 07:42 PM
Thunderbird1GHz

if you oc your cpu and video card you can hit 12k
03-26-2003, 11:28 PM
CadetLee

Quote:

Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
if you oc your cpu and video card you can hit 12k

lol..already at 2.133Ghz on a 1.6a :D
03-26-2003, 11:36 PM
lonewolfroger

Have you checked out Pyro`s 3D Mark guide http://www.sharkyforums.com/showthre...hreadid=184058
03-27-2003, 08:44 AM
Thunderbird1GHz

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Originally posted by CadetLee

lol..already at 2.133Ghz on a 1.6a :D

this is sad, I am getting 7930 marks at stock 250/445 ti4200 speeds on a 1GHz thunderbird at 143fsb, your cpu should perform 50% better since p4's are crap anyway but yours is more than twice the core speed. This means 12k marks if you oc the video card, go easy on the core, it locked up before artifacting
03-27-2003, 10:11 AM
CadetLee

Quote:

Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz

this is sad, I am getting 7930 marks at stock 250/445 ti4200 speeds on a 1GHz thunderbird at 143fsb, your cpu should perform 50% better since p4's are crap anyway but yours is more than twice the core speed. This means 12k marks if you oc the video card, go easy on the core, it locked up before artifacting

Please tell me why a Northwood Pentium 4 is crap.

You're just jealous.. ;) ..and ask anybody..I used to be die-hard AMD. I'll now use either one -- they're both fast.
03-27-2003, 10:31 AM
crashed13

Quote:

Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz

this is sad, I am getting 7930 marks at stock 250/445 ti4200 speeds on a 1GHz thunderbird at 143fsb, your cpu should perform 50% better since p4's are crap anyway but yours is more than twice the core speed. This means 12k marks if you oc the video card, go easy on the core, it locked up before artifacting

Here is the best score for a TB 1Ghz with a 4200 "9066"
Compare link AMD 1ghz/w4200

This is a P4 1.6(not O/ced) with a 4200 "9984"

P4 1.6 with 4200 compare link

A P4 @2ghz is "12682"

Compare link P4@2ghz
03-27-2003, 10:38 AM
Thunderbird1GHz

Quote:

Originally posted by CadetLee

Please tell me why a Northwood Pentium 4 is crap.

You're just jealous.. ;) ..and ask anybody..I used to be die-hard AMD. I'll now use either one -- they're both fast.

you paid 3 times for your cpu as I did mine(free, took from bros old comp actually) and p4's do less MHz per MHz. If a p4 was underclocked to 1GHz it would get well below what my Tbird does. also your cpu at stock is 60% faster, but you get ~25% more marks, make that ~15% after ocing my video card. If I had an athlon XP 1600+ I would get like 14k marks
03-27-2003, 10:53 AM
crashed13

Quote:

Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz

you paid 3 times for your cpu as I did mine(free, took from bros old comp actually) and p4's do less MHz per MHz. If a p4 was underclocked to 1GHz it would get well below what my Tbird does. also your cpu at stock is 60% faster, but you get ~25% more marks, make that ~15% after ocing my video card. If I had an athlon XP 1600+ I would get like 14k marks

God I hate the AMD clock per clock arguement and better price BS.

P4 3.06=$543 XP 3000+=$555(No HS/fan)

P4 2.8=$345 XP 2800+=$360

P4 2.66=$233 XP 2600+=$246

P4 2.4=$160 Xp2400+=$130

All the P4s above can overclocked much much higher without effort if you want.Then their performance is not even close any longer.

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