128 MB GF4 owners lend me your ear :)

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05-21-2003, 05:51 PM
Skywize

128 MB GF4 owners lend me your ear :)

I recently (2 days ago) got a BFG GF4 Ti 4200 128MB Se (8x AGP version). According to their website www.bfgtech.com the 128 MB version of this card is clocked at 250 MHz for the core and 444 MHz for the memory (500 MHz for the 64 MB version).
I just installed the coolbits registry tweak to allow the GF4 tab under the display properties to show me the actual clock speeds and they turn out to be 250/513...
Is that anything to be worried about?
Bad info on website?
How can this discrepency be explained?
What are your mem speeds? (128 MB cards/default-nonoc)
Anyone out there with the same card?
(while this card is great, nice 10k 2k1 score, i rather it doesn't die within a week or two :) )
05-21-2003, 05:54 PM
Colossus

I wouldnt think that is right... Well I never seen a 64MB card be clocked higher then the 128MB card... It's usually the other way around.
05-21-2003, 05:55 PM
Un4given

What does it display on the screen for the video card when you first turn on your computer? My system display that I have a 128MB GF4. Note that this screen is the very first thing to appear, before the POST screen, and is only there are very short period of time, so you gotta look quickly.
05-21-2003, 06:01 PM
Dano 00TA

Quote:

Originally posted by Colossus
I wouldnt think that is right... Well I never seen a 64MB card be clocked higher then the 128MB card... It's usually the other way around.

Believe it or not the 64meg cards are for some reason clocked slightly higher than their 128 meg counterparts. Don't know why but I remember that when I bought my 128meg 4200....almost made me buy a 64 meg version but I figured I'd clock it past hte 64meg card anyway:D

Skywize:
As far as your card being clocked at 513 I wouldn't worry about it unless you're having artifact or freezing problems. Almost everyone clocks theirs past that anyway.
05-21-2003, 06:27 PM
MAVrecK

the ti4200 core is great and the msi mem is great i am running at

290.3core/580.5mem and there hasn't been a single glitch what so ever, hell i can touch both of the pieces with my finger forever, they don't even get that hot. I could do alot more i have no doubt.
05-21-2003, 06:34 PM
Skywize

Quote:

Originally posted by Un4given
What does it display on the screen for the video card when you first turn on your computer? My system display that I have a 128MB GF4. Note that this screen is the very first thing to appear, before the POST screen, and is only there are very short period of time, so you gotta look quickly.

Haven't seen that screen yet :(
And I have looked from the start...
This damn sony G420 monitor just isn't fast enough for my pc :)
However in the properties and dxdiag this displays as a 128 MB card
(i'm just wondering why it is clocked above its specs)
05-21-2003, 06:34 PM
Colossus

Since I did lend you my ear... When do I get it back???

I exspect it to be washed and cleaned before returning it and please make sure you return it in the same shape,color, etc as it was when I gave it to you!
05-21-2003, 06:42 PM
Thunderbird1GHz

dude, if you are so worried, clock it back down. I overclocked mine to 280/520 and you could probably get yours up to my speeds :D
05-21-2003, 06:53 PM
Skywize

Quote:

Originally posted by Colossus
Since I did lend you my ear... When do I get it back???

I exspect it to be washed and cleaned before returning it and please make sure you return it in the same shape,color, etc as it was when I gave it to you!

If you want it back go to www.ebay.com ;)

As far as artefacting/lockups go:
In 3dmark 2k1 there were a couple pixels on that rotating horse that seemed out of place (like 2 or 3 dots just didn't quite blend in with the horse), other than that both 3dmark 2k1 and 2k3 finished without any graphical glitches i noticed (this card does OHHH so much better in the nature thing than the old gf3 :) ).
Haven't had a lockup yet, haven't taxed the card in a game yet either
(don't think rise of nations can even start to stress it)
Maybe I should go back to Unreal2 and play at 1600x1200.
(the gf3 got a bit laggy at 1280x1024, during the start of missions only though)

I don't suppose there is a way to display temps on this card? :)
05-21-2003, 06:59 PM
imayoda

Skywize, My Geforce 4 Ti4200 128MB also came clocked at 250/513. It has never given me any trouble at this speed. :)
05-21-2003, 07:13 PM
OpStar

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the REFERENCE 128mb boards used slower ram, hence the ram speed.

Not all cards did though.
05-21-2003, 07:13 PM
Thunderbird1GHz

Quote:

Originally posted by imayoda
Skywize, My Geforce 4 Ti4200 128MB also came clocked at 250/513. It has never given me any trouble at this speed. :)

heh I can clock mine higher than that :D
05-21-2003, 07:19 PM
imayoda

Yeah, so can I. It's just mine came that way, stock, no O/C.
05-21-2003, 07:59 PM
melee

Quote:

Originally posted by MAVrecK
the ti4200 core is great and the msi mem is great i am running at

290.3core/580.5mem and there hasn't been a single glitch what so ever, hell i can touch both of the pieces with my finger forever, they don't even get that hot. I could do alot more i have no doubt.

Wow i can only get my 4400 to 290/585 before I notice artifacting.
05-21-2003, 08:01 PM
Colossus

I can take my GF4 4400 to 302/665 I believe it was :)
05-21-2003, 08:09 PM
OpStar

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I had some 4200s that would come close to 4600 speeds. Surpass 4400 speeds ;)
05-21-2003, 08:54 PM
adslegend

If you read the writing on the RAM chips themselves, somewhere it should have some numbers ending with 4, 36 or 3.6. Something like that anyway. That'll be the latency of the RAM. If it's 4 then I imagine the card SHOULD be clocked at 444 MHz stock, but will probably go higher, at least 500 MHz. As to why some 128MB cards had slower RAM, it was for cost reasons as well. Producing cards with twice as much RAM as the 3.6 ns RAM typically found on the 64MB cards would have put the prices very high.
05-21-2003, 08:57 PM
boosted3si

My little Albatron Ti4800 SE (4400 w/ 8x agp) is at 315/725 for daily usage. :)
05-21-2003, 09:22 PM
Thunderbird1GHz

Quote:

Originally posted by adslegend
If you read the writing on the RAM chips themselves, somewhere it should have some numbers ending with 4, 36 or 3.6. Something like that anyway. That'll be the latency of the RAM. If it's 4 then I imagine the card SHOULD be clocked at 444 MHz stock, but will probably go higher, at least 500 MHz. As to why some 128MB cards had slower RAM, it was for cost reasons as well. Producing cards with twice as much RAM as the 3.6 ns RAM typically found on the 64MB cards would have put the prices very high.

not sure of the speed of my ram, but she wont bulge past 520 without artifacting, so its probably 4.5ns ram because 4.5ns translates to 444MHz stock :eek:
05-21-2003, 09:54 PM
Colossus

You could not be any more wrong TB1Ghz
05-22-2003, 07:50 AM
RavenLord

The older FGorce4-4200 128Mb had their mem clocked at 444 Mhz.
The newer ones with AGPX8 have their mem clocked at 512 Mhz.
I know I checked the web before I bought mine.
05-22-2003, 01:29 PM
GB_Cobber

The original refference board is the only one i know of that actually used 4.5ns ram.

All 128MB ti4200's AFAIK use at least 4ns and overclock accordingly.
05-22-2003, 01:40 PM
Un4given

Quote:

Originally posted by Colossus
You could not be any more wrong TB1Ghz

Just out of curiosity, what was he wrong about? 4.5ns RAM is rated at 222MHz, or 444MHz DDR, which is what he said.