Thunderbird1GHz

hey, when you are done with your $38 processor..............

anyway, i have two 'spare' AMD processors in my possession, both do well over 200 FSB and will clock like mad, either on a VIA or Nforce. the 2800+ clocked to 3+gig on the 8k3a+, even without the 1/6 divider that VIA will never have.

one is a 2800+ (had her to 3+gig on the promme) and the other is a nice 2100+.

that little 2100+ hit 2.3 gig out of the box.

for $60 bucks (much less than your total spent to date chasing cr.ppy cpus), you could be enjoying the 3Dmarkage you so desperately want to get.

oops, i forgot,that is too much for you to spend ALL AT ONCE.]

with tongue in cheek.

seriously, i will sell you either cpu, if nothing else other than to quell your quest for whatever it is you are chasing with this insane 3DMark obsession.

jeesh, maybe i shouldn't do this, cause if you start getting good clockage, who knows what it will spawn??

baldy:D

couldn't this have been a pm?

my bad.

tried to delete thread, but was not allowed.

baldy:D

Just appears to be a public humiliation to me.

-Mark

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Just appears to be a public humiliation to me.

-Mark

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Yeah really.... I mean, it's different when you reply to his threads humiliating him, or quote him, but making a new thread just for that is pretty much asking for the ban stick :D

jebus! I didn't actually read the 1st post, but now that I did, man you has some issues :eek:

Relax, it's nothing worse than what others have done. Seeing how the moderators haven't taken any action against anyone in the past other than locking/deleting threads, I seriously doubt he will get banned. Plus, Baldy has the best "clockage" of anyone here at Sharky so that has to be the most important factor in determining whether or not he gets banned. :cool:

edit: What ever happened to ditto on the mucho??? That was my absolute favorite line ever when looking through sigs.

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Originally posted by Royal Oaks
Relax, it's nothing worse than what others have done. Seeing how the moderators haven't taken any action against anyone in the past other than locking/deleting threads, I seriously doubt he will get banned. Plus, Baldy has the best "clockage" of anyone here at Sharky so that has to be the most important factor in determining whether or not he gets banned. :cool:

edit: What ever happened to ditto on the mucho??? That was my absolute favorite line ever when looking through sigs.

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I didn't think it was something to ban him over, just thought it was wierd...

C'mon you have to admit, Tbird does seem to be learing, albeit slowly. After all, he finally did order a Tbred, even if he is getting it from eBay, it's definitely going to be a big improvment over what he's got right now, and will allow him to at least explore the potential of his mobo. :)

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C'mon you have to admit, Tbird does seem to be learing, albeit slowly. After all, he finally did order a Tbred, even if he is getting it from eBay, it's definitely going to be a big improvment over what he's got right now, and will allow him to at least explore the potential of his mobo. :)

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man, someone more pitiful that I :eek:



:p

"one is a 2800+ (had her to 3+gig on the promme) and the other is a nice 2100+."


wow not bad, but how far does she go on air and stock voltage? what about 2 volts or around that? xp2800s come 2.2GHz stock too. Just out of curousity, how much do you value that one?


"that little 2100+ hit 2.3 gig out of the box."


not bad, its an AHUIB right? what voltage did she need and on what cooling? I dont want to run her at like 2+ volts for 2.3GHz though. 2GHz on 1.7 volts with stock cooling isnt too bad, 2.2GHz is even nicer. Do you guarantee that overclock on a kt400 mobo, like if I get it and it wont do at least 2.2GHz?


"for $60 bucks (much less than your total spent to date chasing cr.ppy cpus), you could be enjoying the 3Dmarkage you so desperately want to get."


heh but the first pally I got, the xp1700, I dont think tbred B's existed either and I still had a kt266 mobo. The the agoia pally I got cost me $30 and it was for a good cause too, also supposedly the agoia cores overclock to like 1.8GHz or very close to what tbreds overclock. I knew it was locked but was expecting 166fsb for 1.74GHz min but guess I didnt get a champ. He was supprised too and gave me suggestions but I already raised the voltage to 2 and no go. I can resell that for $30 easy when and if I want to so I lose nothing but get the fun of overclocking, ya know. Ill see how far that xp1700 goes and since its unlocked ill experment with all settings as well, ill try like 200fsb times 7 for 1.4GHz then times 8 for 1.6 and see how much +200 MHz on same fsb helps because I believe a tbred at 1.8GHz is very close to one at 2.2GHz in games and 3dmark, cause it doesnt scale linear for sure, going from 1GHz tbird to 1.6GHz pally sure as heck didnt scale linear, not even close either. 60% more clock speed for a 36% increase in fps in quake3 at 640x480. 1.8 to 2.4GHz is 33% more clock speed, this could get me like another 20% in games. I remember back when I had a 366 at 550 celeron I was pratically at the top of the line even though they had pentium 3's to 733MHz, no game needed more than 200MHz either. every computer I bought was near top of the line. yes I know the fastest amd cpu out is a barton xp3200 running at 2.2GHz I think. a tbird at 2.2GHz would be like 85% of that performance LOL


"seriously, i will sell you either cpu, if nothing else other than to quell your quest for whatever it is you are chasing with this insane 3DMark obsession."


heh thanks so much :) I know 3dmark isnt everything again, but splintercell that im getting, a few extra fps never hurt, theres no such thing as too many fps. ah well im gonna also PM you this just in case this thread dies

When someone is wrong they normally do not know it. 2 steps generally must be taken. Prove the person why they are wrong and show them the right. You forget to explain why the person is wrong and then that lengthens the convo.

So i'll make it simple:
Other commented on what you did bldegle2 with somewhat passive opinions. Here's the more active. Your thread: PATHETIC. You will have to explain its purpose to me. If you please can, explain how I may be wrong and this thread may actually have some value? Or am I right that it is a worthless and pathetic thread?

My purpose of this reply: have at least a minue understanding of what convinced you write this thread. You're that bored that you attempt to humiliate others publibly for no true reason?
Also, if this reply is strong and direct enough, maybe the thread will bet closed.

AIRCA
for the 2100

AIUHB
for the 2800+

the 2800+ did like 2.5 on air, but for your purposes, given your limitation on the volts, certainly a bit less, prolly 2.3/2.4.

the 2100+ has never been on air, only the prome. i do know that it ran over 2.0+ on 1.7 vre on the NF7-S.

i even bought an MP 2000+ back when, just to get unlockage without the hassle.

even with the unlockage, hitting 200 FSB with all of your components, and only the 1/5 divider may very well expose these other components because of the higher values on the PCI/AGP bus, memory and vid card for sure will get tested, nic in some cases, USB in others.

and even with that same video card, your 3DMark scores will definately climb due the the added bandwidth the higher bus is a pumping.

i found that 185 to 195 FSB was the sweet spot, more and i would experience problems with the USB and NIC (fadeouts, recycle, reboot, annoying). your mileage may vary.

got your PM.

will respond later, got stuffs to do right now.

baldy
:cool:

editage>>>>coolqf

do a search under Thunderbird1GHz, then get back to me after reading some stuffs.

anyway, as far as my original postage, it was definately a drastic way to offer some help, maybe with a better unlocked CPU..................... that i happen to have laying around, maybe...........just maybe....

whips and chains
:D

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When someone is wrong they normally do not know it. 2 steps generally must be taken. Prove the person why they are wrong and show them the right. You forget to explain why the person is wrong and then that lengthens the convo.

So i'll make it simple:
Other commented on what you did bldegle2 with somewhat passive opinions. Here's the more active. Your thread: PATHETIC. You will have to explain its purpose to me. If you please can, explain how I may be wrong and this thread may actually have some value? Or am I right that it is a worthless and pathetic thread?

My purpose of this reply: have at least a minue understanding of what convinced you write this thread. You're that bored that you attempt to humiliate others publibly for no true reason?
Also, if this reply is strong and direct enough, maybe the thread will bet closed.

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well said.

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Originally posted by Royal Oaks
Relax, it's nothing worse than what others have done. Seeing how the moderators haven't taken any action against anyone in the past other than locking/deleting threads, I seriously doubt he will get banned. Plus, Baldy has the best "clockage" of anyone here at Sharky so that has to be the most important factor in determining whether or not he gets banned. :cool:

edit: What ever happened to ditto on the mucho??? That was my absolute favorite line ever when looking through sigs.

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There are 3-7 that I know about that were banned from here in the past! Some were not to long ago! LOL!

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Originally posted by Royal Oaks
Relax, it's nothing worse than what others have done. Seeing how the moderators haven't taken any action against anyone in the past other than locking/deleting threads, I seriously doubt he will get banned. Plus, Baldy has the best "clockage" of anyone here at Sharky so that has to be the most important factor in determining whether or not he gets banned. :cool:

edit: What ever happened to ditto on the mucho??? That was my absolute favorite line ever when looking through sigs.

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Unfortunately i don't spend enough time here to see some of these other threads and see who gets banned or who does not. It's not my decision at the end of the day. However, just because people havn't got banned in the past doesn't really justify others posting crap like that above. If they do then IMO their just taking advantage of the fact that they probably will get away with it. People become complacent and pressidents are set (unfortunately).
Secondly, it doesn't matter how much clockage someone has, whether their the best overclocker in the world with a million posts, IMO we all abide by the same rules, there shouldn't be any favouritism or special treatment. If there is then what hope do newcomers have, probably scared off and intimidated by some high postage, high ranking uber-clocker who thinks he's better than the rest of us? See my point?
At the end of day, if somebody really does annoy someone else, isn't it easier just not to repond to his posts instead of hitting him with verbal abuse?

All in my opinion of course :)

-Mark

actually i see it as an opportunity where t-bird shines...

had someone inadvertenly insulted me, i know my response wouldnt have been so "nice"..

its nice to have pride in your work, but dont push it on someone else or it looks like gloating..

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actually i see it as an opportunity where t-bird shines...

had someone inadvertenly insulted me, i know my response wouldnt have been so "nice"..

its nice to have pride in your work, but dont push it on someone else or it looks like gloating..

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Who exactly is that aimed at? Just curious...

Thanks

-Mark

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Who exactly is that aimed at? Just curious...

Thanks

-Mark

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who? why anybody who feels guilty of joining in on the "blanket party" when its not their fight..

actually in the earlier context, i was referring to those that post comments directed towards anybody in a way that is insulting without just cause..im a strong advocate of being constructively critical rather than insultive..
its an better way to teach..

as far as the comment on pride in work.. i see it all too often, some just like to gloat and there's a more "tactful" time and way to do so..
no matter how its phrased, its still "my dog is bigger.." but some take it too far..