I think I blew out my psu

bad news is I blew my codgen 350w psu, I tried 1.9v cpu, 186fsb and 2.23GHz clock speed. so far good I got to the end of car chase high details with my mx440 in an attempt to break 8500 marks then the comp shut off and I couldnt turn it on again. at 2.14GHz the 5v is 4.97 which arent bad but the 12v is 11.5! I think I overloaded the crappy psu and it shut down on me, there goes my $15

good news is the achieve 400w psu is phat, at 2.23GHz the 12v is 11.97 and the 5v is 5.16! at 2GHz which im running now the 12v goes up to 12.09! the old psu was 11.7v! Now the only factor seems to be heat as when I set it to 2.23GHz and 1.9v go to the bios I let it sit and watch the temps climb steady to 85c and I turned it off before it got higher. at 2GHz and 1.6v its around 60c and stay there. wow it gets hot like a monster :eek:

Sorry to hear 'bout the death of your 350W PSU, may 'she' RIP.:( Aren't you afraid of frying that cpu of yours?:confused: 85 C is pretty hi, sh*t, I'll be sh*tting bricks if my cpu temp hit that high!:eek: Better watch it T'bird!;) :)

If you had decent quality hardware.. This doesnt happen.. It only happens when the cheap buys the cheapest :D

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If you had decent quality hardware.. This doesnt happen.. It only happens when the cheap buys the cheapest

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Oh come on!!! Give the guy a break. He's clearly on a limited budget and trying his best (and enjoying himself at the same time by the sound of it).

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Originally posted by Colossus
If you had decent quality hardware.. This doesnt happen.. It only happens when the cheap buys the cheapest :D

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That doesn't sound like you Colossus... :(

Tbird where did you find a 350 watt PS for 15 bux?
What have we learned?;)

Sorry to hear about your hardware failure T-Bird, that always sux. However I would really be concerned letting a cpu reach 85c, as you are definitely cutting it's life span down if not killing it. If you are going to raise the vcore, you know from reading and participating in this forum that you need quality cooling for the cpu.:)

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Originally posted by phat boy


Oh come on!!! Give the guy a break. He's clearly on a limited budget and trying his best (and enjoying himself at the same time by the sound of it).

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Oh please...


Stop trying to protect the guy :p. Honestly though, if you knew him on a personal basis (I talk to him an AIM everyday, lol)... Youd realize that he has the money to buy good crap... but he chooses to spend money on useless things! :eek: 5200's, mx 440's, a TI4200 AND a ti4600 at the same time..... on yeah.... and 50 "AS-IS" Geforce 256's!!! :eek: :p


Tbird's quite the character. :p

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Stop trying to protect the guy . Honestly though, if you knew him on a personal basis (I talk to him an AIM everyday, lol)... Youd realize that he has the money to buy good crap... but he chooses to spend money on useless things! 5200's, mx 440's, a TI4200 AND a ti4600 at the same time..... on yeah.... and 50 "AS-IS" Geforce 256's!!!

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I was just going to post the same thing. You are a little out of date though, he's added the purchase of a TI500 to the list making it: TI4600(if the ebay seller comes through), 5600, TI500, TI4200(new one that overclocks better because the previous one was "unnacceptable."

Any overclockers here use Codogen PSUs? Achieve?:confused:

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If you had decent quality hardware.. This doesnt happen.. It only happens when the cheap buys the cheapest

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85C CPU, but a new video card is more important...:eek:

Sorry T-Bird, I just don't understand the way you do things!:p

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Originally posted by lostlilchild6



Oh please...


Stop trying to protect the guy :p. Honestly though, if you knew him on a personal basis (I talk to him an AIM everyday, lol)... Youd realize that he has the money to buy good crap... but he chooses to spend money on useless things! :eek: 5200's, mx 440's, a TI4200 AND a ti4600 at the same time..... on yeah.... and 50 "AS-IS" Geforce 256's!!! :eek: :p


Tbird's quite the character. :p

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Not so much as 'protecting the guy' but protecting the idea.
If the guy doesn't want to buy a more expensive item who's anybody to say anything? You yourself pointed out that by buying all the items above he's not exactly 'cheap'.
I know someone close that spent 1.7K on his rig and then When I mentioned to go buy a good speaker set to connect to the latest audigy he simply thought about it and said he rather buy the cheap set as he didn't really care for the sound.

Calling someone 'cheap' with the above information on this thread is rather groundless....

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Originally posted by coolqf

Calling someone 'cheap' with the above information on this thread is rather groundless....

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Silly me, I merely thought it was rude...

yea I did spend quite a bit on new video cards but I will probably resell the ti4600(if he ever answers my email and I buy it first) the fx5600 256mb, ti4200 64mb, ti500


1. ti4600 for $100
2. fx5600 for $130
3. ti500 for $50
4. ti4200 for $64
5. 50 defective or as is geforce sdr for $25

1. sold my best coin for $250, paid less for it last year
2. sold my 128mb ti4200 at 280/520 for $81
3. selling my ti500 that ocs crap, hope the new ti500 ocs good so I can break 11k marks, perhaps 11500 :)

Ill probably sell most of the video cards I bought and keep one, of course ill also keep the cheap ones, but two of the three is going: ti4600, ti4200 or fx5600, havent decided which to keep first I need them to reach me. as for a psu, enermax ones cost over $100, no way am I spending that much. the $15 psu worked fine till I pushed my cpu higher and it gave in :( but my $25 psu made by archieve and its 400w looks to be going strong and the 12v is normal, the old one dipped to 11.5 or even lower depending how high my cpu speed was.

1. ti4200.......14k to 15k marks
2. ti200.......11k marks
3. ti500.........12k marks
4. mx440.......9k marks
5. mx420........6k marks
6. mx400........3.5k marks(dont care much about that one though)


right now I am at 13, 10.5, 8.2 and 4.9 and 10.5 is the ti200, I gave up on my old ti500 and my mx420's ram sucks at ocing but I cant find a cheap mx420, I paid like $15 for mine on ebay. also I have one of the best ocing ti200 and mx440, I still need a ti4200 and mx420 that overclock better. I was thinking of an albatron ti4200 but those cost like $130, forget it! I paid $64 for my gainward 64mb ti4200......yes psod is my risk but for $64 and a shot at 14k Ill risk it :)

Sorry bud... The only Enermax that cost over $100 is the 550w Enermax... Unless you live in Canada :)

Second, If you dont agree with what I said prior.. Oh well... It is a known fact that when the cheapest hardware is used, their can be problems... You DO NOT want to skimp on a PSU... If they do fry, they can take out most of your setup.. Then you wont have anything!

Its like the idiots who use the cheapest gas for their car... It would cause more problems in the long run then good :)

wow I didnt know a psu can take out other hardware, ive had like 5 psu fry over the years, the last 2 fried within 4 months and it never took anything out with it. well this time im using an expensive psu, cost me $25 I think, that baby weighs like twice as much, perhaps much larger capacitors and it feels solid and well built even the exhaust fan is really powerful. It may be a little worse than the enermax but miles better than the codegens which cant even maintain the 12v rail which my new psu can!

Sorry to hear about all your troubles. Seems like lady luck is a hooker and you're out of cash, TBird1GHZ.

Appropriate Max Payne reference, yes?

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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz


1. ti4200.......14k to 15k marks
2. ti200.......11k marks
3. ti500.........12k marks
4. mx440.......9k marks
5. mx420........6k marks
6. mx400........3.5k marks(dont care much about that one though)
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my MX420 has never hit past 5400 3dmarks when overclocked to the max at 332/443

Hey TBird if your 4200 can do 14,000-15,000 3dMarks how come in your signature your 3dMark score with the 4200 is just barely over 13,000?

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Originally posted by Sandro
Sorry to hear about all your troubles. Seems like lady luck is a hooker and you're out of cash, TBird1GHZ.

Appropriate Max Payne reference, yes?

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well maybe ill win the lotto ;) 1:23 million odds....


"my MX420 has never hit past 5400 3dmarks when overclocked to the max at 332/443"


wow man can you link me? maybe your cpu was weak. I gained about 400 marks going from 333 to 366 on the ram. going from 333 to 443 would get me 1000-1200 more marks putting me at 5300 to 5500 on my 2.14GHz cpu, but with a faster cpu I just might break 6k. im at 4850 on a crap oc too. will you sell your mx420 if you wanted to? ill break 5k for sure LOL. my goal is to get the best score for every good card along with a godly overclock, take the ti200 at 250/525 for example or the mx440 at 330/550 :eek:


I sold my 128mb ti4200 at 280/520 for.......

This auction is for a Geforce 4 TI-4200 card from Abit. Its the 64mb version which actually benchmarks higher then the 128mb versions in most games, this is because they use much fast memory on the 64mb version. I use one of these in my own system and I've yet to run into a game that it cannot run extremely fast!

......this is some seller selling the 64mb which eats the 128mb so I bought a 64mb a few days ago :) 14k depends on my cpu and gpu oc and I run with best quality too :)

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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
wow I didnt know a psu can take out other hardware, ive had like 5 psu fry over the years, the last 2 fried within 4 months and it never took anything out with it. well this time im using an expensive psu, cost me $25 I think, that baby weighs like twice as much, perhaps much larger capacitors and it feels solid and well built even the exhaust fan is really powerful. It may be a little worse than the enermax but miles better than the codegens which cant even maintain the 12v rail which my new psu can!

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$25 is still cheap for a PS in my book. A good 400W+ PS, Enermax or Antec, cost around 3x that. If you've have that many PS' fry you might want to also get a surge protector.

IF your CPU is running at 85C then the HS fan isn't working and/or you didn't apply any thermal paste (ie still using a crappy thermal pad). Do that CPU a favor and pickup a Speeze CPU Fan Model 5F263B1M3 - only $12 at Newegg. Also get some Artic Aluminum or Ceramique, or if you can't find either of those a ~$3 tube of Silicon grease from Radio Shack will also work.

I had my power supply die on me during a power loss and later brownout all within 2 minutes. The computer was turned off during all this, but after power came back on the computer turned on by itself! (No, I did not have the feature turned on in the BIOS where the computer turns on when you re-gain power)

Check out some of the pictures :)

http://www.ganksta.com/ISEF/Web/doo.jpg

Here's another angle of that shot:

http://www.ganksta.com/ISEF/Web/doo3.jpg

These big black capacitors are measured at 1200 micro farads at 200 Volts:

http://www.ganksta.com/ISEF/Web/doo2.jpg

http://www.ganksta.com/ISEF/Web/doo4.jpg

Worth mentioning: One of friends think the white looking stuff is glue, although I do not agree with him since it was not there before the incident happened. I had modified my power supply in the past to give it a stronger 5V and 12V rail, so I knew exactly what the internals looked like :). Also, I don't think the power supply modification killed my PSU because it worked fine for 2 weeks before I that brownout. I don't have any equipment that protects against brownouts.

I spent about $75 on this TTGI TT-520SS 520W power supply. It replaced my Enermax 431W power supply that went into my water/peltier rig. I've since replaced my broken TTGI with an Antec True480 power supply for $91. As you can see from my signature, I haven't had the time yet to put my main rig back together yet :(.

Nice pics... Sorry about the dead psu...

However I agree with your friend.. Most higher quality power supplies use a glue or contact cement on the board...

If you look at that last image.. Its on the cable... And a string of it going up the cable...

However when caps die they tend not to leak white goo :D They usually explode or leak a water like liquid (since caps are coded in a liquid inside)

Most of the time when I see barrel style caps blow.. the whole canister would pop off :)

Its possible that transistors are fried..

I wish I finished my Analog/Digital classes :) I only completed 18 months

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well maybe ill win the lotto 1:23 million odds....

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Not with the way your luck with PSUs is going. You'd probably have a better chance finding it on the street.

TBird, you definitely need to get a good PSU. In my opinion, the PSU is one of the most important parts of a comp because if something is wrong with the PSU, it can take all the other components down with it. Get at least a 350W Antec or Enermax. I have both a 430W Enermax and 430W TruPower Antec. Both are great PSUs.

If you need a very reliable powersupply with a low price tag, I really think Sparkle PSU would be the best. I don't know how much it costs now, but when I bought a Sparkle 300W PSU, it was in the 30's at Newegg and it was comparable with 400W PSU because it had really high current rating and its rail is very stable. Mine wasn't stable as I expected so I opened up my PSU and easily upped my rails to 3.3V and 5V flat.

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Originally posted by Colossus
Nice pics... Sorry about the dead psu...

However I agree with your friend.. Most higher quality power supplies use a glue or contact cement on the board...

If you look at that last image.. Its on the cable... And a string of it going up the cable...

However when caps die they tend not to leak white goo :D They usually explode or leak a water like liquid (since caps are coded in a liquid inside)

Most of the time when I see barrel style caps blow.. the whole canister would pop off :)

Its possible that transistors are fried..

I wish I finished my Analog/Digital classes :) I only completed 18 months

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Something is indeedly dead, be it the capacitors or not. I am very sure that the glue-like substance was not on the capacitors before my power supply died, that is the honest truth. Think what you will :).

The power supply can still power on and have sufficient power to power a few fans and sometimes it will have enough power to make a hard drive spin up but that is it. You can turn on the power supply without plugging it in to the motherboard or putting a jumper onto the GRND+PWR_ON leads too, so something is definetly wrong with that ower supply. In other words, all I need to do to turn it on is to take a power cord, plug it into the power socket and turn on the power supply by putting the switch to "ON" :eek:.

It was a decent power supply too :(. Not quite as good as my Enermax 431W, but pretty good.

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Originally posted by Colossus
Sorry bud... The only Enermax that cost over $100 is the 550w Enermax... Unless you live in Canada :)

Second, If you dont agree with what I said prior.. Oh well... It is a known fact that when the cheapest hardware is used, their can be problems... You DO NOT want to skimp on a PSU... If they do fry, they can take out most of your setup.. Then you wont have anything!

Its like the idiots who use the cheapest gas for their car... It would cause more problems in the long run then good :)

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Brooklyn, i'm just saying that what you said in regards to tbird was unnecessary and plain out rude. tbird minding his own business goes and describes his situation and you charge him with 'that's what you get for being so cheap'
Just face it man, you said what you said cause of the reputation that tbird has in this forum.

If a guy came out posting, 'hey guys, i'm a newbie, I was on a real tight budget when building my computer and I spent X on this psu, but as an attempt to get extra juice from my computer the PSU went dead' You would have take a more professional role.

I'm just saying,keep yourself in check cause tbird is just a kid.
Off topic though, you have to give tbird his due props, this guy has taken all kinds of comments from people in this forum and he still posts with no hate or throwing insults at people. He just reads the threads and posts his opinion/view, and minds his own business when it comes to personal insults directed at him.

As for the cheapest hardware used and there can be problems... shoot look at some of the most expensive hardware, especially when considering cutting edge technology.
The 9700pro when it came out. When the p4 came out with rdram and all those mobos that companies had that were useless.:confused:

aside, i've bought 2 psus that came with 2 cases for $55 (after shipping) 5 yrs ago. The PSU is still working perfectly with all the original parts bought for that rig still also working. Use to be a gaming machine, but slowly transitioned to just OFFICE XP, web, and music, and soon to be a machine to serve as the host for internet sharing (no router, but just a hub). Very very stable.