THREE new exciting cards comming soon!

No im not talking about me, im talking Nvidia and ATI
does fx6000, fx5700 and radeon9900(pro) ring any bells?



According to this article at www.xbitlabs.com, nVidia will be releasing a new NV36 very soon. This will be called the GeForce FX 5700 and will replace the current NV31 GeForce FX 5600 cards. These cards may well be available by early September. Also, the successor to the NV35 will be the NV38. This card may be called GeForce FX 6000 and will be available some time around October. This card will have a core clock in the 500-550MHz range and memory clocked in the 1GHz range. There will be a regular and Ultra version of the NV38. It looks like the NV35 will have a shelf life of just a little longer than NV30.

There was only two times in NVIDIA’s history when the company started to sell a new and revolutionary graphics processor in Fall. Even though everybody talks about necessity to introduce breakthrough GPUs in Fall to sell bunch of them during Christmas season, NVIDIA did such thing only twice: in 1998, with the launch of the Riva TNT, and in 1999, with the introduction of the GeForce 256. NVIDIA did not release NV20 in Fall 2000, did not unveil NV25 in Fall 2001 and did not commercially launch NV30 in Fall 2002. That is basically why you should not expect massive availability of the NV40 this Fall. Indeed, just like in cases I mentioned, you should expect NVIDIA to offer improved versions of existing products – code-named NV36 and NV38 – for different market segments.

We already reported you about the graphics processor code-named NV36 and branded as the GeForce FX 5700 to substitute the current mainstream and performance-mainstream GeForce FX 5600 aka NV31 (see this news-story for more details) devices. Now it is time to talk about a high-end product that is likely to succeed the GeForce FX 5900-series this Fall.

The lifetime of the whole thing called NV35 will be very short, just a little bit longer compared to its unlucky predecessor, the NV30 aka the GeForce FX 5800. According to NV News, the NV38 will be announced in September, hence, expect mass availability of actual graphics cards in October. The NV38 will obviously have two versions: one is Ultra, another is non-Ultra. Currently there are no precise core and memory frequencies declared for both products, but I suggest that the memory-clock may be as high as roughly 1000MHz for 256-bit memory bus, whereas the core-clock is said to achieve 500-550MHz. The NV38 will outperform both the RADEON 9800 PRO as well as the GeForce FX 5900-series and will compete against ATI’s upcoming R360 VPU.

The micro-architecture of the NV38 will be similar to that of the GeForce FX 5900 with only minor possible improvements in order to slightly boost the performance, push the core-clocks up and maintain acceptable yields, even though NVIDIA is probably targeting to improve the yields of the upcoming product given that Christmas is ahead.

The pricing of the NV38-based products will be similar to the pricing of the predecessor: $499 and $399 for mind-blowing Ultra and head-cutting non-Ultra respectively. However, given that NVIDIA wants to formally launch the NV40 in November, the actual pricing will be lower since no one will acquire the NV38-based graphics card for a large sum if he or she knows that there is another massive performance booster around the corner.

As a result of all the introductions this year, NVIDIA will have three high-end products commercially launched this year and four high-end parts introduced within 12 months since November 2002. This may annoy add-in-board partners of the Santa Clara, California-based company since they do not have enough time to sell well-advertised products with high margins. ATI Technologies commercially launched only one new high-end product – RADEON 9800 PRO – this year and another one – the code-named R350 – is going to appear this August or September. On the other hand, the Markham, Ontario-based graphics firm also intends to introduce its next-generation R420 VPU in November at Comdex, what is also likely to impact sales of the R360 with higher margin.

Hm... not exactly exciting... Just clock speed increases..

I'm still waiting for Loki/NV40. That should be when the place heats up...:D

"Hm... not exactly exciting... Just clock speed increases.."


dont forget price drops!!!!!! like with each new cpu increase, the prices on old ones drop a bit, same with video cards. the 128mb 9800 pro *might* drop as LOW as $300 used! If demand drops for the 9700 np, it should be $200 then instead of $250 its now :eek:
I also heard of a $100 9600 non pro, this would really get attention. ati's first dx9 card for a tenth of a grand, the threshold many will pay. The fx5600 non ultra and 128mb verson might hit $100 too. the fx5200 ultra 128mb can be had for $100 pretty easy on ebay by now while the weaker non ultras go for like $70. of course itll be a very long time before the radeon9700 pro, fx5800 and greater cards finally hit $100 on ebay. In the meantime its nice to read about new technology and drool over the 20+ people seem to be hitting now. so far like 10 sharks broke 10k, before the 9800 pro only one shark managed 20k. Give it a year and 20k wont be so much of an accomplishment anymore. It is alot like what 10k on a ti4200 is right now, I can break 10k on a ti4200 with my eyes closed. ti200s are a different story however. mx440? O boy good luck!

does anyone have more info, especially clock speeds

i got this from tweakers.net A dutch site...i'll translate it ( a part of it )

'the nv38 comes in 2 versions, the ultra and non ultra . Core speeds 500-550 and for the memory 1ghz effective

the nv38 architecture is almost the same as the nv35 only small changes for better performance

the nv38 is probably going to hit the selves in September'

name speculations are FX600 or FX 6900

remember : i did'nt say it, i only trenslated it from dutch to english ;) (just a messenger)

you can get a 9800 pro in any store for 400, probably cheaper online. So when the new cards come out, a 9800 better be less than 300 and a 9700 np should be more like 150

9900 pro=$500
9800 pro=$400
9700 pro=$300
9600 pro=$200
9200 pro=$100

non pros are priced in between :eek:

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9900 pro=$500
9800 pro=$400
9700 pro=$300
9600 pro=$200
9200 pro=$100

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were did you get these numbers :confused:

We don't know and we don't ask.;)

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We don't know and we don't ask.;)

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My dartboard is missing........MC

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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
"Hm... not exactly exciting... Just clock speed increases.."

If demand drops for the 9700 np, it should be $200 then instead of $250 its now :eek:

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I think if demand drops, prices will rise.

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My dartboard is missing........MC

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LMMFAO. That is awesome.

Also, the prices haven't dropped significantly in awhile, let us hope that they do sometime soon.

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Originally posted by Kwonger
I think if demand drops, prices will rise.

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:confused: I think someone failed economy

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Originally posted by Kwonger
I think if demand drops, prices will rise.

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You've got it backwards.

Demand must increase, while supply either stays the same or decreases, for prices to rise.

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:confused: I think someone failed economy

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What was I thinking? :)

EDIT: I think I was thinking...since ATi has slowed the production of the card (or stopped it), there's a limited quantity available so ATi might raise the price, knowing that there are people who still want this card. But yeah, you're right.