Radeon 9800 Pro games stuck at 60hz

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08-10-2003, 01:08 AM
Takeda

Radeon 9800 Pro games stuck at 60hz

Hey, I got an All-In-Wonder Radeon 9800 Pro recently and I've noticed that some of my games start up at a refresh rate of 60Hz. GTA3, GTAVC, MOHAA, and NOLF1 all start up at 60Hz, though other games, Red Faction, Hitman2, NFS5, RA2, Generals, and spider-man the movie are all at 85Hz. I have Vsync off in the ATI properties under ogl and d3d, there are no options in the game to change the refresh rate, so how exactly should I go about fixing this? Some of my friends have said that it's a win2k/xp specific prob. Anybody else have this happen? Thanks!
08-10-2003, 01:14 AM
AirR'

it is winxp specific, and better yet, there are fixes:D
Download refresh force
08-10-2003, 01:24 AM
Takeda

w00t! thanks man!
08-10-2003, 01:34 AM
a68spectre

Quote:

it is winxp specific

it also happens in WIN2000 to ;)
08-10-2003, 01:46 AM
AirR'

Quote:

Originally posted by a68spectre

it also happens in WIN2000 to ;)

psh, picky picky
08-10-2003, 04:19 AM
Takeda

Hrm, it fixed the prob in GTA3 and GTAVC, but Medal of Honor Allied Assault and Red Faction 2 are still loading up under 60Hz. :( Any ideas what's causing this?

*update* ahh, I had that "hide modes that this monitor cannot display" option unchecked. I checked it and the games work great now. Thanks again man!
08-10-2003, 05:07 AM
hwmicre

You can DL 'Rage3DTweak' from Rage3D.com. Loads of options (o/c, etc..) in addition to refresh fix.
08-10-2003, 09:20 AM
gurutoo

Quote:

Originally posted by hwmicre
You can DL 'Rage3DTweak' from Rage3D.com. Loads of options (o/c, etc..) in addition to refresh fix.

I just downloaded Rage3DTweak yesterday, still getting used to it.

Is it referred to as "refresh fix" or "shimmer fix"?
What heading is it under?

THX;)
08-10-2003, 11:10 AM
vertices

Uninstall Refesh Force. It does not work in all games. RageTweak works in EVERYTHING.

Install Ragetweak then under Advanced Display Properties you should see "Custom Display Modes".

That is where you set your refresh rates. Remove Refresh Force first though and reboot. It sucks compared to RageTweak.:)
08-11-2003, 07:04 PM
Takeda

hmm, I downloaded Rage3D Tweak, definitely a helpful program. Though one *** game is having problems with all 3rd party refresh rate programs. Enter The Matrix. There's even something on the main site talking about it, their solution is to "not use any 3rd party refresh rate tweakers." hmm, this aspect of WinXP is really starting to annoy me, seeing as I had no problems whatsoever with games on 98se.
08-12-2003, 01:13 AM
russ_watters

I think Cat 3.5 has this feature in it also.
08-12-2003, 05:35 AM
RaiD_357

Is ragetweak for ATI cards only or can I use it for any chipset from any manufacturer?
08-12-2003, 08:26 AM
jagojago12

Quote:

Originally posted by Takeda
hmm, I downloaded Rage3D Tweak, definitely a helpful program. Though one *** game is having problems with all 3rd party refresh rate programs. Enter The Matrix. There's even something on the main site talking about it, their solution is to "not use any 3rd party refresh rate tweakers." hmm, this aspect of WinXP is really starting to annoy me, seeing as I had no problems whatsoever with games on 98se.

What's the problem specifically? Some games won't start at a refresh rate of anything other than 60Hz such as Hitman 2 (I think) or Battlefield 1942.

However, there are ways around those problems.
08-12-2003, 09:54 AM
Takeda

Quote:

Originally posted by jagojago12

What's the problem specifically? Some games won't start at a refresh rate of anything other than 60Hz such as Hitman 2 (I think) or Battlefield 1942.

However, there are ways around those problems.

the prob is basically certain games start up at a refresh rate of 60hz, and stay at that, regardless of changing the res in game or any other settings. So if I use a 3rd party app to force the refresh rate, all the games work...except for Enter The Matrix, which I guess isn't too bad, since I guess it's a pretty crappy game anyway.
08-12-2003, 09:56 AM
jagojago12

Maybe there is a config file in the "Enter the Matrix" game directory to change that setting.

BF1942 has a config setting where you change to allow refresh rates other than 60Hz, that way you can still use a 3rd party refresh rate application and play the game at say, 100Hz.
08-13-2003, 01:29 AM
Takeda

Quote:

Originally posted by jagojago12
Maybe there is a config file in the "Enter the Matrix" game directory to change that setting.

BF1942 has a config setting where you change to allow refresh rates other than 60Hz, that way you can still use a 3rd party refresh rate application and play the game at say, 100Hz.

yeah, that was my first thought, so I looked around the dir but I didn't find any configs that contained that. I think it was stored in some kind of archive, because I believe the only config file that was able to be edited was for the controls.

Plus, when I consulted the main site, their "solution" was to uninstall any 3rd party refresh rate controllers. =/
08-13-2003, 08:59 PM
Ranmaz

just wanted to put in my 2cents

just wanted to put in my 2cents.

I myself use a program called refreshlock.

http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rl/

Never failed on me yet.

Just make sure you follow the instructions on how to install it properly and heed all warnings.
08-13-2003, 09:13 PM
Stryker5

Has anyone actually looked in the settings in the ati control panel? If you go to the ati control panel go to the displays tab and click the monitor you can override the refresh rates right there. No need for any 3rd party app. Works for me.
08-14-2003, 10:46 AM
vertices

Re: just wanted to put in my 2cents

Quote:

Originally posted by Ranmaz
just wanted to put in my 2cents.

I myself use a program called refreshlock.

http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rl/

Never failed on me yet.

Just make sure you follow the instructions on how to install it properly and heed all warnings.

Refresh lock / Refesh Force....same thing form the same site. And RageTweak ownz it.

Refresh lock does not work in ALL games whereas I have not found a game out there that RageTweak didn't handle.;)
08-14-2003, 04:19 PM
russ_watters

One other comment - I've found that when not overclocking its best to have vsync ON to avoid tearing. At the very least it will improve the "choppiness" at even 60hz.