The radeon9800 is very tempting!

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08-23-2003, 03:24 AM
Thunderbird1GHz

The radeon9800 is very tempting!

There is a chance I will upgrade to that card if:

1. black friday at best buy for below $200
2. I break 19k marks
3. It overclocks to 400/350 or more(I know im asking alot, but it must overclock like a champ!)
4. I must see a major difference in games across the board and it must not be overkill. getting 60fps at 2048x1536 is considered overkill.
5. There is a pretty good chance ill get the 9800, but whether I keep it or not is for me to decide if I really need all that speed when a ti4200 is absolutely plenty for my needs. a 9800 would not just be for 3dmark, but to let me run every game out there at any res and setting I could max it to :)
08-23-2003, 03:32 AM
thrawn86

it would have to be a 9800 np, and the cheapest i've seen those is 260(rebates) at best buy.
08-23-2003, 03:48 AM
mikeysg

T'bird, don't JUST keep talking about it, like the Nike ad says, 'Just do it!" From what I've heard, you can afford it, don't be all fart and no sh*t, just GET IT!!!:p :D :D
08-23-2003, 03:54 AM
lostlilchild6

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Originally posted by mikeysg
T'bird, don't JUST keep talking about it, like the Nike ad says, 'Just do it!" From what I've heard, you can afford it, don't be all fart and no sh*t, just GET IT!!!:p :D :D

I say we just let him do whatever he want's to do. Because if for whatever lame reason he doesn't like it (we all know him well) he's going to blame the "bad purchase" on us ;) :).
08-23-2003, 04:07 AM
dartman

i must be living under a rock or something, but what is up with this black friday sale? whats on sale and when is it, im lost:confused:
08-23-2003, 04:33 AM
Colossus

First... Any sale on Black Friday will NOT bring the 9800 NP below $200, No way in hell!!! So keep dreaming!

Second, you will probably be lucky to get 18k with your setup... You have proven over and over... well never mind

Do whatever you want.. I am tired and you never listen anyway...
08-23-2003, 05:46 AM
Sgt_Strider

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Originally posted by Colossus
First... Any sale on Black Friday will NOT bring the 9800 NP below $200, No way in hell!!! So keep dreaming!

Second, you will probably be lucky to get 18k with your setup... You have proven over and over... well never mind

Do whatever you want.. I am tired and you never listen anyway...

He's probably just posting to get attention. I know he never listen well anyway.
08-23-2003, 06:24 AM
kpxgq

i would love to see the day when tbird has the highest 3dmarks on SF
08-23-2003, 06:55 AM
KaoTiK

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Originally posted by kpxgq
i would love to see the day when tbird has the highest 3dmarks on SF

I second that, lol.
08-23-2003, 06:59 AM
gkline

PLEEZ, not another "dump on Thunderbird thread!":eek:
08-23-2003, 07:00 AM
KaoTiK

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Originally posted by gkline
PLEEZ, not another "dump on Thunderbird thread!":eek:

I'm not dumping on him, I don't mind the guy, he just says funny stuff that's all. :)
08-23-2003, 07:43 AM
Thunderbird1GHz

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Originally posted by kpxgq
i would love to see the day when tbird has the highest 3dmarks on SF

I am in 2nd place, just 60 marks below first place but I just cant get those without spending $150 on better ram or a v mod to my card. Actually I want to break 15k but thats not gonna happen now, at least not on a ti4200. I wont argue with Colossus, but if he says ill be lucky to break 18k on a 9800, than to heck with a 9800 then, I can get that on a ti4200 but just not now, but perhaps in 2005 when I get a 3GHz athon 64, dual channel ram at 300fsb or higher. 14.6k on a ti4200, 17.6k on a 9800, thats only 3k more. Would this mean colossus at 22k on a 9800 pro get like 18k on a ti4400? No point in a 9800 if even a 2.47GHz cpu is gonna badly bottleneck it that itll squeek by over a ti4200 without aa/af. I dont even know if they will have 9800s at black friday, but if they do and if they are $180 or so(I can dream) I may get one just if to test it out then sell it to a friend cheap so he can enjoy it more fully on his 3.5GHz p4. now you see why I have older cards? with the cpu I have, the performance differences arent great in games, even though I eat stock xp3200s, I am still gonna bottleneck a 9800 if ill be lucky to break 18k :mad: :mad:
08-23-2003, 09:12 AM
bldegle2

okay

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now you see why I have older cards?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

no.:D
08-23-2003, 07:27 PM
Sublime059

i say you get 12 ti4200's and tape them all together and you'll get 503 fps at 5000x45039234 and it works trust me.
08-23-2003, 07:34 PM
ranger2992

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Originally posted by Sublime059
i say you get 12 ti4200's and tape them all together and you'll get 503 fps at 5000x45039234 and it works trust me.

:D :D Now that would be a video card LOL
08-23-2003, 10:15 PM
eshbach

i think making the case mod to fit that monstrosity would be too much work. ;)
08-24-2003, 03:02 PM
rhettro

Re: The radeon9800 is very tempting!

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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
There is a chance I will upgrade to that card if:

1. black friday at best buy for below $200

Not likely. Maybe 12 months from now.

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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz
2. I break 19k marks.

Probably not, you need more CPU power.

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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz

3. It overclocks to 400/350 or more(I know im asking alot, but it must overclock like a champ!)

I got my 9800 NP from Best Buy, and it came with Infineon 3ns memory. Not the best for overclocking. This seems to be the case with most cards purchased from BB. I got mine clocked at 375/330.

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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz

4. I must see a major difference in games across the board and it must not be overkill. getting 60fps at 2048x1536 is considered overkill.

You will see a difference and there will be overkill. Frankly, I don't understand you lack of appreciation for overkill.

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Originally posted by Thunderbird1GHz

5. There is a pretty good chance ill get the 9800, but whether I keep it or not is for me to decide if I really need all that speed when a ti4200 is absolutely plenty for my needs.

If the first 4 questions are qualifiers for you getting a 9800 NP, then your chances of getting a 9800 NP are actually pretty bad. If the ti4200 is "absolutely" plenty for your needs, why waste your money on a 9800 NP?