I found this interesting. It outlines what features people with older cards will loose out on.
http://www.planetdescent.com/lyris/hl2_mpc.html
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I found this interesting. It outlines what features people with older cards will loose out on.
http://www.planetdescent.com/lyris/hl2_mpc.html
It's an interesting description, I look forward to seeing something similar with screenshots to highlight the differences. However, near the bottom I would say there's a bit of a mistake:
Judging from recent performance articles on HL2, it would seem a 5600 is not a worthy upgrade over a DX8 card.Quote:
A DX8 video card won't give you all of the game's visual treats but you'll get most of the big ones. Upgrading to something newer will you at least $200, and depending on what card you have now, a video card upgrade may not be faster, just more fully featured. That said, the Radeon 9600 and 9800 cards, and the GeForce FX 5600 and 5900 are great upgrades.
John
I don't think a 9600 Pro ande a 5600 Ultra are that far apart in performance. Could be wrong.
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Originally posted by Daywalker
... Could be wrong.
http://www.tech-report.com/etc/2003q...h/index.x?pg=2
you guessed right...
Wha??? From the looks of it, the R9600Pro equals or beats the FX5900 Ultra when it's run at full DX9. And it equals it when it's running under "FX" mode. (guessing combination of 32, 24, and 16bit precision)
It will be interesting to see what Nvidia's new det drivers will do to increase their performance, though I find it odd that Valve won't let anybody use them for test HL2 and publishing results. Does this bother anyone else? Even though I currently have an 9700pro, I still like Nvidia and hoping for a better card in the future (whenver budget allows :( ). Sorry Moridin, I don't mean to steal your thread.
Looks like people with fast DX8 cards like the GF4 Ti's will still enjoy the game in DX8 mode and it well still look great also.
Noo, my GF4MX is only DX7!
It's gonna look ugly!!!!
Nooooooooooox100000
The drivers in their current state won't render fog, and Gabe Newell hinted heavily that the drivers might have other unacceptable optimizations, ala 3DMark 03 tricks.Quote:
Originally posted by Elink7
It will be interesting to see what Nvidia's new det drivers will do to increase their performance, though I find it odd that Valve won't let anybody use them for test HL2 and publishing results. Does this bother anyone else? Even though I currently have an 9700pro, I still like Nvidia and hoping for a better card in the future (whenver budget allows :( ). Sorry Moridin, I don't mean to steal your thread.
And probably wont run the game well even at 640x480..;) :pQuote:
Originally posted by Terry
Noo, my GF4MX is only DX7!
It's gonna look ugly!!!!
Nooooooooooox100000
Hey where'd you find that link, on the VUG Forums? I own that hosted site. :p
Do they offer 320x240?Quote:
Originally posted by Chuck232
And probably wont run the game well even at 640x480..;) :p
If DX6 cards are able to play, then I should be able to :)
I know UT2003 offers lower than 640x480, but it's not even worth playing. I tried it on a friend's comp and damn it was horrible. People were basically just blobs lol..:p
Aren'y blobs easier to hit? :D
I am gonna start crying if my 9000m runs better than my 4400 in HL2.
Is the 9000 Dx 8 or 8.1?
Looks like it will look fine on an DX8 card, maybe I will save the upgrade for DX15.
EDIT: look at this:
finnally something that sticks with me, CPUs have only gone up 200mhz since I bought it, Its still great. Thats one thing I like recently CPu speeds have remained the same over the last year. Now my 4400 is another matter, then again i got it the day the 9700 came out, if only I knew...Quote:
As for recommended CPU requirements, Valve had no comment, but we'll hazard that anything able to meet or beat the performance of a 2.5GHz Pentium 4 will be just dandy.
I doubt a R9000m would perform better than a Ti4400 since it's really a crippled R8500/LE.
Really? I was under the impression the 9000 was a bit faster. Damn marketing!
Yeah it's so true. ATi has really messed up thier numbering. 9000<8500, 9600<9500, 9200<9100 in terms of performance.
I think I am gonna go throw up now.
Hopefull ythey start newe with the 1000. maybe they will make it a newseries, that Radeon 2 or something.
The R200 architecture uses DirectX 8.1. The main difference between DX 8.0 and 8.1 is that 8.1 supports a higher pixel shader version (1.4). Theoretically, if the Radeon 9000 had the equal stock-performance of a Ti4400, the Radeon 9000 would be faster due to it requiring fewer rendering passes for it's pixel shading.Quote:
Originally posted by melee
Is the 9000 Dx 8 or 8.1?
However, the Ti4400 is generally significantly faster graphics card than the Radeon 9000, so it should easily compensate for a slight lack of pixel shading robustness. In Anandtech's Half-Life 2 preview the Ti4600 was a pretty decent performer, sometimes even matching GeForce FX 5900 Ultra performance, although it would be at a lower quality setting (i.e. DX8.0 compared to DX8.1/9.0 mixed mode).
Shouldn't that read..Quote:
Originally posted by Moridin
I found this interesting. It outlines what features people with older cards will loose out on.
It outlines what features people with older cards
(and certain new cards) will loose out on.:p :eek:
*me shoots his Geforce2mx*Quote:
Originally posted by Terry
Noo, my GF4MX is only DX7!
It's gonna look ugly!!!!
Nooooooooooox100000
*Goes out to buy a Radeon 9800*
ATI's numbering scheme is confusing only if you think it's the standard higher is better. The first number is it's dx version, so even if it's a dx9 card it could still be slower than a fast dx8 card.
Wrong, the 9X00 series of cards doesn´t mean they are all DX9 cards, only the 9500+ are DX9... well, you helped prove that it IS confusing nonetheless :DQuote:
Originally posted by Remington
ATI's numbering scheme is confusing only if you think it's the standard higher is better. The first number is it's dx version, so even if it's a dx9 card it could still be slower than a fast dx8 card.
Peace.
Indeed, too confusing for most of the buyers out there who think that that R9000 they're getting's a gid upgrade from thier R8500.;)