Carmageddon 2 over TCP/IP

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09-17-2003, 08:26 PM
Racer^

Carmageddon 2 over TCP/IP

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get Carmageddon 2 to work over a local network while running Windows 2000/XP?

Carmageddon 2 is a good multiplayer car-battle game that I used to enjoy playing at LAN parties. However, now that most people have Win2k/XP, Carmageddon 2 does not work over the network. Even though the game does load and play fine in single player, it cannot connect due to the fact that the IPX protocol isn't commonly installed anymore. Since the game only supports using IPX/SPX, naturally the answer would be to install IPX on all of the computers. Well, we did this and it still doesn't appear to work.

My thoughts: Either Carmageddon 2 doesnt use the same IPX protocol as Windows XP IPX uses or a setting is wrong (we tried forcing the frame type to 802.3).

Possible solutions:
- Modified settings...ok what settings?
- A program designed to allow IPX tunneling over TCP/IP
- A VPN

P.S. Carmageddon TDR sucks. Please do not suggest it as it is buggy and has gameplay far worse than C2 does even when it doesnt work. The only thing good about TDR is its higher resolution support.
09-18-2003, 01:30 AM
Nabby

Re: Carmageddon 2 over TCP/IP

Quote:

Originally posted by Racer^
Does anyone have any ideas on how to get Carmageddon 2 to work over a local network while running Windows 2000/XP?

Carmageddon 2 is a good multiplayer car-battle game that I used to enjoy playing at LAN parties. However, now that most people have Win2k/XP, Carmageddon 2 does not work over the network. Even though the game does load and play fine in single player, it cannot connect due to the fact that the IPX protocol isn't commonly installed anymore. Since the game only supports using IPX/SPX, naturally the answer would be to install IPX on all of the computers. Well, we did this and it still doesn't appear to work.

My thoughts: Either Carmageddon 2 doesnt use the same IPX protocol as Windows XP IPX uses or a setting is wrong (we tried forcing the frame type to 802.3).

Possible solutions:
- Modified settings...ok what settings?
- A program designed to allow IPX tunneling over TCP/IP
- A VPN

P.S. Carmageddon TDR sucks. Please do not suggest it as it is buggy and has gameplay far worse than C2 does even when it doesnt work. The only thing good about TDR is its higher resolution support.

Your problem on WinXP is that WinXP has a firewall setup on the network connections. The person hosting the game probably has that enabled and it's blocking all requests to join the game or even see the game. I had the same problem with Counter Strike when I first ran it on WinXP.

This only has to be done on the host of the game:
To remove this feature simply right click my network places click properties, right click the network connection you are using for this and click properties again. Finally go to advanced and Uncheck the box that reads "internet connection firewall." One more thing, if the game uses IPX and only IPX you will need to install that on all machines that are going to be playing the LAN game. Hope that helps..
09-19-2003, 02:09 AM
Racer^

For one, firewalls dont block IPX traffic. For two, I said I installed IPX. For 3, I said this didnt work on Windows 2000 either.

And AFAIK, no firewalls were set up anyways.
09-20-2003, 02:52 AM
Nabby

Quote:

Originally posted by Racer^
For one, firewalls dont block IPX traffic. For two, I said I installed IPX. For 3, I said this didnt work on Windows 2000 either.

And AFAIK, no firewalls were set up anyways.

Calm down.. It's ok. I was just trying to help, but I guess it wasn't wanted.
02-19-2009, 12:27 PM
suresync

Solution IPX on Windows XP Carmageddon 2

Install IPX protocol with default values.
Then start regedit and go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\NwlnkIpx\Pa rameters
Change DWORD value SocketUniqueness into 20 (hexadecimal)
Then go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\NwlnkIpx\Pa rameters\Adapte rs\{your adapter}
Change DWORD value MaxPktSize into 10 (hexadecimal)

You have to do this on every computer you want to play hosted Carmageddon 2 games with.

We had the same problem. After spending a few hours on the problem I made a few guys here very happy. Hope it helps you

Eelko Neven
02-19-2009, 02:28 PM
Mindwarper

We used to do this also. I always liked splat pack better. It was the closest to deathrace 2000 as you can get. 2 seemed more like twisted metal then carmageddon. I've heard rumors they are working on another carmageddon. Anyone hear anything?
02-20-2009, 03:24 PM
rimmerchant

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Originally Posted by Mindwarper

I've heard rumors they are working on another carmageddon. Anyone hear anything?

I hope they keep the insane pedestrian killings of Carmageddon 2.

I've never played C3 but from what i read it's more racing with less killing and violence. and it kinda sucked so I didn't bother.

C2 is a CLASSIC game.

GTA.. Beating hookers... prffff. that's tame compared to what I can do to people in C2.
running into a crowd of people with a truck at 100mph. and smashing a few bodies against the wall and seeing the limbs/heads pop off in blood. while dragging a few victims under the truck.

My favorite is to drive a vehicle toward a crowd and watch everyone run in panic and there will occasionally be this one person that kneels down and pray to god instead of running..
Guess who I kill first :D:D:D:D

I HAVE YET to find a game as violent in a funny way as C2

I hope they don't fudge up C4 and do away with what made the series have a cult following.
02-23-2009, 08:13 AM
dimmy32

C4 ? what are you talking about ?
02-23-2009, 12:45 PM
rimmerchant

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimmy32

C4 ? what are you talking about ?

carmageddon 4 (that is if they really are making a 4th game in the series)
02-23-2009, 02:18 PM
Mindwarper

I've only heard rumors, but I hope it is true. Did you ever try carmageddon splat pack? It was not as good graphically, but I thought it was better.
02-24-2009, 04:38 PM
dimmy32

rumors eh ? seems all heresay and projecture. I'm not holding my breath.

:(
02-24-2009, 11:07 PM
PowerCreep

I have nothing to add, but this seems odd:

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02-25-2009, 10:58 AM
sledge

Quote:

Originally Posted by suresync

Install IPX protocol with default values.
Then start regedit and go to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\NwlnkIpx\Pa rameters
Change DWORD value SocketUniqueness into 20 (hexadecimal)
Then go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\NwlnkIpx\Pa rameters\Adapte rs\{your adapter}
Change DWORD value MaxPktSize into 10 (hexadecimal)
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Eelko Neven

Regedit trick did not do the job :( I tried on several Carma2 versions: simple, advanced, US/UK)..
Has this ever worked to anyone? I am using Ethernet P2P crossover cable.

Has anyone tried the c2o (Carmageddon 2 Online) project? I cannot use it because c2o_server writes "file hash was not found"..

Project seems to be dead for last months, but files can be downloaded and tried from:
http://www.cwaboard.com/ubbthreads/s...d&sb=5&o=&vc=1
http://carma.jjunkies.com/c2o-overview

Anyone please reply on results; thanks huge!

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sledge
02-25-2009, 11:46 AM
PointlesS

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Originally Posted by PowerCreep

I have nothing to add, but this seems odd:

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Well it is a 6 year old post.
02-25-2009, 12:44 PM
PowerCreep

LOL! I didn't even notice!
02-25-2009, 04:02 PM
rimmerchant

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerCreep

LOL! I didn't even notice!

me either. I just though that Carmageddon 2 was such an awesome game that everyone wants to read
02-25-2009, 04:45 PM
dimmy32

It was an awesome game. I bust a gut laughing so hard !
02-25-2009, 11:51 PM
rimmerchant

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimmy32

It was an awesome game. I bust a gut laughing so hard !

that's what I LOVE the game.
That's the ONLY VIOLENT game where my first emotion was of laughter.

any other game where people get killed I was like damn..

but with Caramgeddon 2. the first time I played the game within the first minute I plowed my car into a group and see them splatter and lose limbs and I started laughing and there was a BIG GRIN in my face

I have yet to find a game that did that to me. instant classic.

:D:D:D
02-26-2009, 06:19 AM
Wurm

Sledge, quit reporting the posts under your's as "irrelevant" just because someone grave dug this thread back to the top and you decided to make your very first post here at sharky's in it doesn't mean the other members can't talk in it.

Welcome to Sharky's BTW.

Normally I'd lock this necro thread and be done with it. But since you asked for help I wont.

But seriously lay off the report button.
02-26-2009, 06:28 AM
sledge

Thanks for the piece of advice Wurm, I'll lay it [the button:)] off.
But I am surprised about you were thinking to do lay off the thread itself; there IS a movement about this game (check the links I posted), and about its wonderful multi-player ability attempted by us to be brought back to life.
I struggle every time I get back from work to boost the LAN mode working, and will keep you and other forums updated, hope you'll help me, too; it IS a challenge (hey, where are all of the IPX/BNC/LPT2LPT low level network experts gone, when we need them? :))

peace
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sledge
02-26-2009, 09:40 AM
Wurm

Hey I'm all about playing old good games.

But Grave Digging is the wrong way to go about it.
02-26-2009, 10:13 AM
rimmerchant

Quote:

Originally Posted by sledge

Thanks for the piece of advice Wurm, I'll lay it [the button:)] off.
But I am surprised about you were thinking to do lay off the thread itself; there IS a movement about this game (check the links I posted), and about its wonderful multi-player ability attempted by us to be brought back to life.
I struggle every time I get back from work to boost the LAN mode working, and will keep you and other forums updated, hope you'll help me, too; it IS a challenge (hey, where are all of the IPX/BNC/LPT2LPT low level network experts gone, when we need them? :))

peace
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sledge

I'm no expert on networking but..

Carmageddon 2 use local LAN IPX to run multiplayer.. couldn't we setup a "virtual network" type over TCP/IP and get multiplayer working?

I know there are security issues I guess since everyone is joining a virtual network but if u do it with a few friends it should be ok/safer just m guess
02-26-2009, 10:20 AM
sledge

Quote:

Originally Posted by rimmerchant

I'm no expert on networking but..

Carmageddon 2 use local LAN IPX to run multiplayer.. couldn't we setup a "virtual network" type over TCP/IP and get multiplayer working?

I know there are security issues I guess since everyone is joining a virtual network but if u do it with a few friends it should be ok/safer just m guess

The internet game-play was attempted to be solved with the c2o (Carmageddon 2 Online) project (see links above), but the project died leaving the blocking-from-gameplay bugs on latest release..

The problem is: I AM using the local LAN to try to play it (with P2P cross-over Ethernet cable); and believe me: since Win95/98 times are over, Carma2 multi-player never worked on XP/2000.

I came across a post, where a guy recommends using a hub/switch in a home network explicitly (for some smarter packet mangling, IMHO) . But I don't have one to test with..

Sometimes in despair I think of installing a decent Win98 to host Carma2 (come to thinking from old-time experience, Carma2 clients can do OK with WinXP/2000, just the server needs Win9x).. Or buying an ancient hub :D
But still would be the best solution to team up with a mate and two laptops WinXP and a eth cable in some train journey etc

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sledge
05-04-2009, 07:36 AM
feanen

1. install ipx (same settings on all computers)
2. DON'T run carma 2 with carma2.exe
Use for it dirrectly carma2_hw.exe (with 3dfx emulator for 3dfx mode or create shortcut to carma2_hw.exe file and add "-d3d" parameter to start in Direct3d mode)

u need run game with this way at both PC. Then try LAN game.

If you use alt+f4 to quit game, process (carma2_hw.exe) didn't unload from memory, so you need to kill it with ctrl+alt+del and then start carma 2 to LAN game can work.

But lan game is bugged sometimes, i don't know dependances of it.
Sometimes it run fine, sometimes game crash or something else.

For game by Internet i use OpenVPN (need to use "dev tap" in config file).

Tested with 2 PCs connected by wire LAN. Both WinXP SP3 32bit with RU, UK and US versions of carmageddon. Just use same releases/patches/mods.

And sorry for my English... it isn't my native language.