I was waiting for the test-demo to see if my system can actually play HL2!
Come'on
Don't tell me they delayed the test-demo!
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I was waiting for the test-demo to see if my system can actually play HL2!
Come'on
Don't tell me they delayed the test-demo!
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Affirmative :(
#@$%#$@ delays!!! :mad: C'mon, I need something to kill some time and keep me occupied! I'm off for the rest of the $#%@ year!:mad: :)Quote:
Originally posted by janko10
Affirmative :(
Not sure what is going on with it. They haven't said a damn thing...
with all the delays and hush hush talk about HL2, and now the delay of a petty benchmark i'd think the game would be swept under the rug and intentionally forgotten about if it werent for super mega ultra overclocked triple addicted gamers...
LOL! :DQuote:
Originally posted by vairox
i'd think the game would be swept under the rug and intentionally forgotten about if it werent for super mega ultra overclocked triple addicted gamers...
It has a long way to go before it becomes DNF.Quote:
Originally posted by vairox
with all the delays and hush hush talk about HL2, and now the delay of a petty benchmark i'd think the game would be swept under the rug and intentionally forgotten about if it werent for super mega ultra overclocked triple addicted gamers...
you've gotta admit it's pretty pathetic now, they're acting like it's a top secret military operation, tomsharware and a couple other "reviewers" were only allowed like an hour to test it out, and they werent allowed to use the beta detonator 50 drivers, and ati only had a 5600 NON ultra for them to use... starting to sound pretty lame altogether.
release dates are now meaningless until I actually see the game on a store shelf...same goes for demos...benchmarks...etc...any information about the release date of something is probably just when they are planning on another announcement for a delay...it's all a joke to me...
Is some one just a little bitter about the delay? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by PointlesS
release dates are now meaningless until I actually see the game on a store shelf...same goes for demos...benchmarks...etc...any information about the release date of something is probably just when they are planning on another announcement for a delay...it's all a joke to me...
Hmmm...Now that the benchmark as missed it's date without a work from Valve or anyone, I'm wondering exactly what Valve is up to....
Maybe they're trying to get the damn GAME out the door early, and just surprise everyone one day... (wishful thinking).
Yeah, I have to admit, I was hoping to see something on Steam about the bench....But nothing....It's almost like they all gave up....:eek:
..thinking happy thoughts....
-Ryan
STEAM? heh i equate this to those new nostra-dumbass people who predict the end of the world, earth quakes etc... when the predicted date comes and goes they are no where to be found for comment... it's entertaining in a way...a sick kind of way.
what makes you think that? ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Un4given
Is some one just a little bitter about the delay? ;)
It's rediculous what they are doing though. They know this is a highly anticipated game, then they decide 6 days before release to basically say "sorry your screwed" and that's it.
Sorry - I still don't understand why this is considered "screwing us" :confused:.Quote:
Originally posted by Alientank
It's rediculous what they are doing though. They know this is a highly anticipated game, then they decide 6 days before release to basically say "sorry your screwed" and that's it.
I do agree that it was a bit strange to wait until the last minute before saying anything, but they definitely did not screw us by doing so. Sure, it was disappointing. But, we can only speculate why there was a delay. And I'm sure it was for good reason. Do you actually think they wanted to break their deadline? Of course not! They're in the business to make and sell games - not to piss off customers on purpose!
Pushing the release date back can only help us not get screwed. If they chose to release it on Sept 30th, and it was full of bugs and problems, you'd have a ton of really pissed off people claiming that Valve screwed them.
Basically, Valve made a mistake by saying a specific date. The fact that they stuck to it until the last minute tells me that something happened that was unforseen, or out of their control (Vivendi's fault perhaps?). But Valve did not screw us. So the game isn't here yet. Big freakin' deal. How does that screw you? And don't give me any excuses like "I bought new computer parts just to play this game, and now that it's pushed back, I wasted all this money...wahh whaaaa...I would have waited, whaaaa...."
Please...
-Ryan
I totally agree with you, ryandinan!
To those people who whine and cry, would you rather play a game full of bugs right now or a game without bugs later?
I prefer waiting a bit for the bugs to be removed.
Valve simply ****ed up on this one and they know it. I'm not upset that it didn't get released so saying I'm crying about it is stupid, I'm upset they said it would be out at a certain date then didn't release it. Valve are dumasses, Carmack is smart, he's given no release date for Doom 3 at all so no one has anything to cry about.Quote:
Originally posted by ryandinan
Sorry - I still don't understand why this is considered "screwing us" :confused:.
I do agree that it was a bit strange to wait until the last minute before saying anything, but they definitely did not screw us by doing so. Sure, it was disappointing. But, we can only speculate why there was a delay. And I'm sure it was for good reason. Do you actually think they wanted to break their deadline? Of course not! They're in the business to make and sell games - not to piss off customers on purpose!
Pushing the release date back can only help us not get screwed. If they chose to release it on Sept 30th, and it was full of bugs and problems, you'd have a ton of really pissed off people claiming that Valve screwed them.
Basically, Valve made a mistake by saying a specific date. The fact that they stuck to it until the last minute tells me that something happened that was unforseen, or out of their control (Vivendi's fault perhaps?). But Valve did not screw us. So the game isn't here yet. Big freakin' deal. How does that screw you? And don't give me any excuses like "I bought new computer parts just to play this game, and now that it's pushed back, I wasted all this money...wahh whaaaa...I would have waited, whaaaa...."
Please...
-Ryan
Hey guys, lighten up, after all, it's ONLY a game! *ducks under bed for cover*:p I feel the real cause of the delay boils down to Valve having to code the game to run well on nVidia FX cards, soooo....., let's bash nVidia instead.:p :D :DQuote:
Originally posted by Alientank
Valve simply ****ed up on this one and they know it. I'm not upset that it didn't get released so saying I'm crying about it is stupid, I'm upset they said it would be out at a certain date then didn't release it. Valve are dumasses, Carmack is smart, he's given no release date for Doom 3 at all so no one has anything to cry about.
I think we've bashed them enough.
We should spend time concentrating on other stuff.
while I agree that a bug filled game is no fun...and if they have to delay it to get rid of them then that's cool too...but what let's everyone down is that they announce it 6 days before the intended release date...what irks me even more is that 2 weeks before the announcement they were proclaiming that a release on the 30th was very possible and in every statement they said there wasn't any doubt in them...I mean come on...you would know 2 weeks before the release that it'll be done or not...they said they were going though final playtesting...final playtesting is for finding small little bugs...the chances of finding a critical major bug in final playtesting is slim...my guess is that they totally underestimated how terrible steam will and can be...with the release of the offical steam clients and having people (ex me) not being able to use it for over a week is pretty craptastic to me...and with steam being a big part of half-life 2 then I think they decided to push it back...despite having half-life 2 complete...and went back to the drawing board with steam...think about it...steam is released...they see how it works out...it does terrible...they delay...it may seem crazy but that's just what I believe...anyways why they didn't release the benchmark on the 30th is beyond me really...oh and sorry for the thread hijacking :)
Nobody should be making excuses for Valve. They essentially lied to everyone by pretending they could make the stated release date. The sad part is that Vivendi was more honest than Valve.
Are Valve the only ones to not make a stated release date? Come on...give them a break. They were not "pretending" to make a stated realease date. Why would they do that? The only thing that would do is make people, like us, mad at them. This is not good for business now or in the future. Companies give out relase dates thinking that they really, and truly, can make the stated dates. Unfortunately, as we all know, this is often not the case with last minute problems coming up that end up pushing release dates back. Lets just give them a bit of slack and see what happens from here.Quote:
Originally posted by Plok
Nobody should be making excuses for Valve. They essentially lied to everyone by pretending they could make the stated release date. The sad part is that Vivendi was more honest than Valve.
I don't think it has anything to do with Steam...Quote:
Originally posted by PointlesS
while I agree that a bug filled game is no fun...and if they have to delay it to get rid of them then that's cool too...but what let's everyone down is that they announce it 6 days before the intended release date...what irks me even more is that 2 weeks before the announcement they were proclaiming that a release on the 30th was very possible and in every statement they said there wasn't any doubt in them...I mean come on...you would know 2 weeks before the release that it'll be done or not...they said they were going though final playtesting...final playtesting is for finding small little bugs...the chances of finding a critical major bug in final playtesting is slim...my guess is that they totally underestimated how terrible steam will and can be...with the release of the offical steam clients and having people (ex me) not being able to use it for over a week is pretty craptastic to me...and with steam being a big part of half-life 2 then I think they decided to push it back...despite having half-life 2 complete...and went back to the drawing board with steam...think about it...steam is released...they see how it works out...it does terrible...they delay...it may seem crazy but that's just what I believe...anyways why they didn't release the benchmark on the 30th is beyond me really...oh and sorry for the thread hijacking :)
But I think it has everything to do with Vivendi. Valve would not hold back the game because Steam wasn't working up to their expectations. They'd probably release the game to stores, and provide patches in the traditional manner until Steam issues were worked out - Then they would roll out the Steam ordering option.
I think the game is pretty much "done". What's holding it back is not yet known. It's got to be something political for it to be this tight-lipped.
-Ryan
Valve didn't just miss their release date; they were completely dishonest about it. They knew they weren't going to make it. Gabe even admitted this in a recent interview. They'd make condescending comments about Viviendi knowing full well that Vivendi was right. I personally don't care if HL2 is delayed until next year since I expect it to be more of a techdemo than a game. I just don't see why people feel the need to defend Valve.
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Originally posted by Plok
Valve didn't just miss their release date; they were completely dishonest about it. They knew they weren't going to make it. Gabe even admitted this in a recent interview.