PARIS (Reuters) - The theft of part of its source code has delayed until April 2004 the launch of "Half Life II," the hotly anticipated alien-hunting game of Vivendi Universal Games, a company official said.
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PARIS (Reuters) - The theft of part of its source code has delayed until April 2004 the launch of "Half Life II," the hotly anticipated alien-hunting game of Vivendi Universal Games, a company official said.
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Wouldn't hurt to read the FIRST THREAD IN THE GAMING FORUM WOULD IT?!?!
no, i figured it was an UPCOMING GAME.Quote:
Originally posted by Alientank
Wouldn't hurt to read the FIRST THREAD IN THE GAMING FORUM WOULD IT?!?!
but with all the fanboys getting their panties in a bunch and the excuses they eat by the spoonfull from valve it will be a WAS UPCOMING GONNA BE DELAYED FOREVER NEVER COMING OUT KEEP HOPING SUCKERS game...wheres that forum?
It is an upcoming game but you can check other forums first there bucky. And are you calling me a fanboy because you didn't take the 3 seconds to look in the gaming forum first?Quote:
Originally posted by vairox
no, i figured it was an UPCOMING GAME.
but with all the fanboys getting their panties in a bunch and the excuses they eat by the spoonfull from valve it will be a WAS UPCOMING GONNA BE DELAYED FOREVER NEVER COMING OUT KEEP HOPING SUCKERS game...wheres that forum?
yup its offical half life 2 delayed until april 2004 or more
http://money.cnn.com/2003/10/07/tech...ex.htm?cnn=yes
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Don't worry Alientank, we will see alot MORE of these HL2 delay threads started in the next week.;)
fanboys get their panties in a bunch over anything relating to half life, or any future might be maybe could be just kidding haha sucker half life incarnation... if you were offended by the "fanboy" remark (which i didnt aim at you i aimed at all fanboys)it only means your a fanboy...dont let it get your panties in a bunch if it doesnt apply to you...or does it.Quote:
Originally posted by Alientank
It is an upcoming game but you can check other forums first there bucky. And are you calling me a fanboy because you didn't take the 3 seconds to look in the gaming forum first?
The people in the Gaming Forum knew it, this was a lazy excuse for them to push back the release date. People should be shot and hung for this, not the hackers, I mean the lamers at Valve. I dont buy that source code crap for a minute.
no one has sympathy for valve...
#1 is valve was so stupid about security they deserve to have their work stolen, multimillion dollar deal with ATI and they get hacked through their own email? ***???? wonder if ATI is going to sue valve over this, afterall many people bought the card for the game...no game, less sales, lawsuit.
#2 if valve is using it for an excuse thats sad, whats worse... actually getting hacked through your email or saying you got hacked through your email, your source was stolen, and your delaying the game to re-write the source? no one will trust valve with code and no one is going to be willing to ink anymore multimillion dollar deals with them either.
#3 HAHA
HL2 is an "Upcoming Game" and therefor I agree that this should be in this forum. Everybody calm down, it's not the end of the world.
Getting back on topic.
I don't understand why this would make them HAVE to push the release date back, unless the hackers actually destroyed the only copy of the source. If I were Valve I'd have a backup copy of everything that I made hidden away somewhere.
If they're re-writting the code just so that it will be different from the code that was leaked, then that's just a huge waste of time and money.
I'd like to think that Valve would only push back the date for good reasons. After all, they just landed a $6 million deal with ATI for their new video card, which will be outdated by April 2004.
good points... but i see why they would want to rewrite it, to completely squash any rumours of people using cheats from the hacked source and make everyone feel safe that their game isn't compromised but yes massive waste of time and money. if they destroyed the only copy of the source then its even funnier...valve would be the only company in the world not to backup their work...the deal with ati is what im talking about, wonder if ATI is seeking legal action...they could sue based on lax security measures...but who to sue? valve? microsoft? once everyone finds out about this they're gonna delay buying the card until april, by then the card will either be half price or obsolete...ati doesnt want that.
Check out halflife2.net/forums it's a warzone in there. So many repetitive topics.Quote:
Originally posted by soupnazi
Don't worry Alientank, we will see alot MORE of these HL2 delay threads started in the next week.;)
I blame Valve for this, their security measures were piss poor. Who leaves the source code in their email account? That is what it sounds like was happening.
Looks like Valve has to take COMP101. Email is NOT a secure medium.:p :oQuote:
Originally posted by Alientank
Who leaves the source code in their email account? That is what it sounds like was happening.
Also, a beta got out. I'm sorry but the beta looks to be HUGE why the hell would you leave that in your email account. If they were smart they'd have a computer on the network that they keep it all on that is connected to the developement computers on a network, however those computers are not on the internet at all, then another group of computers for internet use so nothing gets hacked or anything. Yes, lets keep the entire game and source in my email account! DUH?!?!??!?!?!?!Quote:
Originally posted by soupnazi
Looks like Valve has to take COMP101. Email is NOT a secure medium.:p :o
They must have used a FULL hotmail account to store it. Bill Gates saw it, and then leaked the code. Ah the conspiracy!:DQuote:
Originally posted by Alientank
Yes, lets keep the entire game and source in my email account! DUH?!?!??!?!?!?!
I doubt Gabe would have 1.5 gigs of HL2 sitting in his E-mail, but who knows. I believe the hacker accessed his computer through Outlook, or whatever program he uses, and took it off his computer using that as a gateway. If that's possible.Quote:
Originally posted by Alientank
I blame Valve for this, their security measures were piss poor. Who leaves the source code in their email account? That is what it sounds like was happening.
well if this is not true, Valve would be in quite some trouble but it is true, there obviously is leaked stuff out there. Valve really have got a lot of explaining to do.
still, it's only a game right?:p
No, it's the end of the world, according to this...lol.Quote:
Originally posted by THE SHADOW
still, it's only a game right?:p
http://www.planethalflife.com/half-life2/delaymovie/
We will probably be seeing more videos like that, oh well Valve deserves the heat they brought upon themselves. Got everyone hyped up over the game, making people think that to play this game, that a system upgrade is necessary. lol But for now the game is vaporware.Quote:
No, it's the end of the world, according to this...lol.
Just curious how you feel it's Valve's fault their code was stolen...Quote:
Originally posted by Elink7
We will probably be seeing more videos like that, oh well Valve deserves the heat they brought upon themselves.
Apparently I'm the only person who feels bad for Valve. This has to have a rather large impact on their profits...
their 6 million dollar deal with ati made more money for them than many games put together...I doubt it'll hurt profits in any way...the game will still sell incredibly well reguardless of the leaks or delays...Quote:
Originally posted by Ara-Loki
Apparently I'm the only person who feels bad for Valve. This has to have a rather large impact on their profits...
to have code worth millions of dollars on a pc connected to the internet is just dumb period.Quote:
Just curious how you feel it's Valve's fault their code was stolen...
its like steven spielberg while shooting his latest jurrasic park leaves half of the completed movie in the back of his truck...someone is gonna take it, do you feel bad for him? sure, do you think it was his fault? yup.
A deal which is now not looking too good. How do they bundle video cards with a game that's not going to be finished for six months? Sure, they can sell the cards with those silly coupons, but ATi's gotta be rather unhappy about this development, not to mention the lost/postponed sales they were hoping to drive up at HL2's release due their association with Valve (and nVidia's much-reported disappointing HL2 performance). I've no doubt the game will sell well regardless, but I find it hard to believe there won't be an impact on profits, especially with the HL2 beta spreading like wildfire now that the release date's been pushed back even further.Quote:
Originally posted by PointlesS
their 6 million dollar deal with ati made more money for them than many games put together...
I believe the term you're looking for is "irresponsible". If I leave my car unlocked, it doesn't mean I'm giving people permission to take it. It doesn't mean I deserve to have my car stolen. Theft is the fault of the thief, not the victim.Quote:
Originally posted by vairox
to have code worth millions of dollars on a pc connected to the internet is just dumb period.
its like steven spielberg while shooting his latest jurrasic park leaves half of the completed movie in the back of his truck...someone is gonna take it, do you feel bad for him? sure, do you think it was his fault? yup.
I agree the folks at Valve showed an incredible lack of judgment having their code anywhere near an active Internet connection, but that only makes it their fault that the code was vulnerable, not that it was stolen.
I agree, the people at valve screwed up. But you also have to remember they are under a lot of pressure to get things done and one doesn't always think about a person planting spyware on your computer through your e-mail account to steal files from you, you tend to have a lot of other things to worry about. Speaking of, I should probably get back to studying for my prelim that's in two hours...