PowerMac G5 claims to be the most powerful computer in the world, is this so? 'Powerful' in what sence? I don't believe it could run a game such as Doom III to the speeds of the latest PC CPUs /Graphics.
PowerMac G5 claims to be the most powerful computer in the world, is this so? 'Powerful' in what sence? I don't believe it could run a game such as Doom III to the speeds of the latest PC CPUs /Graphics.
Just do a search, this has been beaten to a dead pulp over and over again :)
NO!!!
that's really a poor example, Doom 3 isn't even out yet. So who knows which one would run better? As for other games, they are pretty comparable. The main limiting factor for games is the video card but you can get a Radeon9800 pro for mac so that's moot. The new Macs are fast... probably not as fast in all benchmarks as the latest P4EE, but the have much more bandwidth available to them and run Mac apps blazingly fast.Quote:
Originally posted by bisonator
PowerMac G5 claims to be the most powerful computer in the world, is this so? 'Powerful' in what sence? I don't believe it could run a game such as Doom III to the speeds of the latest PC CPUs /Graphics.
[ 1ghz Front Side Bus ;) ]
Also, what is the definition of "powerful" that Mac is using? Raw speed, productivity, etc.
The new 2.0Ghz G5 are much slower then even a 3.0c Ghz P4 :)
So I would say hell no :D
The only thing macs are good for is photo and video editing and that is all they problably ever will be good for.
They make good boat anchors and wheel blocks for large cargo planes too.
Maybe they got the biggest (most powerful) PSU ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Mr Cherry
Also, what is the definition of "powerful" that Mac is using? Raw speed, productivity, etc.
In all seriousness if everyone had a MAC people working in tech support world wide would all be laid off...so to help those people put food on the table please please please keep buying PCs :)
Here we go again with more Mac-bashing...:( :confused: :p
Yep, and most of them are just saying it to be in with the "i hate macs cause everyone else does" crowd.
The G5 is a good chip. It is roughly in the same range as the top of the line offering from AMD or Intel. As such you can certainly select a subset of benchmarks on which the G5 is the fastest chip out there, but you could also do the same for the P4 or A64.
IIRC all G5 Powermacs are dual processor, which puts them at an advantage over a single processor P4 or A64 on many applications. You can however get a DP Xeon or Opteron system for around the same price as a Powermac so comparing to a single processor PC is really an apples to oranges comparison.
No.Quote:
Originally posted by bisonator
PowerMac G5 claims to be the most powerful computer in the world, is this so? 'Powerful' in what sence? I don't believe it could run a game such as Doom III to the speeds of the latest PC CPUs /Graphics.
Never thought of that, an iMac is just about the right shape for a large wheel chock. :DQuote:
They make good boat anchors and wheel blocks for large cargo planes too.
Some people prefer to spend thousands more for macs. Just let them do what they like and laugh silently when he/she isn't paying any attention :p
The way I see it, Macs, PCs (using Windows) and PCs (Using Linux) are on a bell curve here.
Now, this is excluding servers and stuff like that because you dont see many run of the mill consumers running off to buy their next Silicon Graphics workstation to do word processing. That just isnt going to happen. There are some home users who use Linux though, and thats why i've included PCs (Using Linux).
Now, if you know what a bell curve looks like, PCs with Windows are at the peak of the curve, Macs on one of the lower ends, and Linux PCs on the other low end.
This is becuase you dont have many people spending thousands of dollars on boat anchors and wheel props, and you dont have many people with the guts to abstain from getting ****ed up the *** by Microsoft.
I bet the new supercomputer built at the university I attend, Virginia Tech, is pretty powerful; 1,100 G5 systems strong. :)
If all you do is look at a compiler benchmark (SPEC) and an outdated game benchmark (Quake 3), well, then maybe so. But what about real world apps?Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
The new 2.0Ghz G5 are much slower then even a 3.0c Ghz P4 :)
So I would say hell no :D
I would get a mac if I wanted to play Pong or Pacman, cause those are about the only games worth playing on a Mac. Even if the mac is faster, which I really doubt, there would be no point in buying one since the majority of games is not converted to be mac compatible.
I've learned to realize that Apple claims a lot of things...
Apple G5 the fastest CPU? Hell NO!!!!
As the PC CPU getting faster and faster apple is losing their strong field quicker and quicker...
If they claim to be the fastest, I bet 1000 bucks on it that the P4EE 3.2 and AMD A64 FX51 will kick its butt...
Apple is no where near pc...
Computer Maniac :)
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az I noticed you cant OC your mobo, I suggest picking up even one of the cheaper nforce2 boards like the 8rda+ or get a proven board like the nf7-s
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Absolutely! That is, as soon as I get the $ to do it.
Thing is: I'm using an emachines case, which means I'd have to get a microATX mobo to fit it. There's a Biostar and a Shuttle mobo that would be a good bet in that form factor. They can be o/c'ed, faster RAM, etc.
Or, I can just get a new case/PSU and get the mobo I've been wanting (Abit NF7-S). Yes, the EPoX wouldn't be a bad choice either.
Only other problem I can foresee is I don't know if this CPU can be successfully removed from its socket or not, because I've heard some say that emachines solders their procs into their mobos.(?) That would definitely suck big-time. Do you know anything about that?
Emachine? I pity you :p I do not know anything about them soldering them in there sorry man. Get yourself an antec plus1080amg case, already has an antec psu in it and then go nuts with a new mobo and proc. I'd suggest checking out to see if your proc is soldered on or not. Just take the case off and try to take it out.
Nope, I seen benchmarks where a 3.0c outperforms the 2.0Ghz G5 (dual!!!)Quote:
Originally posted by Stratus Fear
If all you do is look at a compiler benchmark (SPEC) and an outdated game benchmark (Quake 3), well, then maybe so. But what about real world apps?
So that is realworld.. And a SPEC is a great program to determine actual raw power of a CPU.
Seriously, half of you saying "omg mac sux!1" probably never used one in your entire life(with the exception of those **** ones running os 7 or whatever they used to have in schools). I don't care for macs myself, but i try not to talk a bunch of **** of something i know little about.