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I need to buy a laser printer and i did some search .
i will select one of those printers .
HP 1010w,1005w OR Xerox 3120.
Xerox 3120 seems better technical wise. but i dont know if their products are better than HP's when quality is concerned.
Which one would you select , or would you choose Xerox?
Also i am planning to refill the toner , is there any problem with refilling toners with these models?
Thanks for the help.
I prefer HP LaserJets or Lexmark printers...
And Xerox for my photocopiers :)
Heh, typical.
But I heard Lexmark is bad.
Back on topic. HP makes great lazer printers.
I dont think Lexmark is bad.. I have rather good experience with them (outside their cheap line like the E12).. I like their larger ($800 and up) network laser printers :)
I agree with Colossus. Laser printers have a specified monthly duty cycle. If you exceed it you'll likely destroy the printer. I've had much better experience with commercial quality Lexmark printers than with commercial quality HP printers. Any commercial quality printer will be superior to a consumer quality unit.
My 312 with 68MB ram gets by fine but until recently I've only printed an average of maybe 20-50 pages a month. It may be 100 or so now :)Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
I dont think Lexmark is bad.. I have rather good experience with them (outside their cheap line like the E12).. I like their larger ($800 and up) network laser printers :)
Eric
I have a multifunctional Xerox laser printer/photocopier. It works great. Excellent quality.
Saler at the computershop told that Hp laser printers also come with a demo toner , which can only print 1000pages. is that true?
Probably. I believe that is true of most of the cheaper models at least. Mine came with a 1500page toner. That lasted a few years. Then I got a refill kit for $25 (lasts 3 refills then you need to replace the entire cartridge).Quote:
Originally posted by phx
Saler at the computershop told that Hp laser printers also come with a demo toner , which can only print 1000pages. is that true?
Eric
I say get an HP laserjet printer and be happy.
This one :)Quote:
Originally posted by richardginn
I say get an HP laserjet printer and be happy.
Eric
I'd go for a samsung laser printer. Great price for what they offer.
Hadone for close to a month, returned it after I wanted to also have the option of printing in color.
I have a strong dislike for Lexmark inkjet printers.... I once did own a commercial Lexmark printer, about 7yrs ago... I really loved it, back in the day when when the printers were still called "IBM Lexmark"
We've had nothing but bad luck with our Lexmark printers since switching from IBM. Their rollers and trays seem to have a lot of issues. They just don't seem to hold up that well even if you are within the limits.Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
I dont think Lexmark is bad.. I have rather good experience with them (outside their cheap line like the E12).. I like their larger ($800 and up) network laser printers :)
A great printer IMO is the Xerox Phaser especially if you want color. It uses solid ink rather than toner so the images always look glossy even on regular paper. It may be a little expensive but you can get one under $1300 after rebate.
HP, HP, HP - the only company you should really consider for a laser printer, unless you can find a Canon. Or look on eBay and every now and then you can find the large business class Lexmarks very cheap, if you can find one get it, they are absolute monsters. These things are rated upwards of 100,000 pages per month and have huge 25,000 page carts for cheap.
But whatever you do, make sure of one thing. It is a tray load and not a top load. All top load printers break, it is a fact. Tray load printers have infinitely less paper jam issues and they are much, much more reliable. I just got rid of a one year old Lexmark (small business class laser printer) because of this. The same thing happened to an old Canon of mine.
I have clients that deals in thousands of pages per day printed and when they had the HP5SIMX and later on a LexMark Optra T634.. The Optra was serviced much less then the HP.. The HP would constantly have problems...Quote:
Originally posted by ksuohio
We've had nothing but bad luck with our Lexmark printers since switching from IBM. Their rollers and trays seem to have a lot of issues. They just don't seem to hold up that well even if you are within the limits.
A great printer IMO is the Xerox Phaser especially if you want color. It uses solid ink rather than toner so the images always look glossy even on regular paper. It may be a little expensive but you can get one under $1300 after rebate.
The Optra on the other hand worked flawlessly...
I guess it depends on the model.. What models did you have problems with? The older crappy Optra R+?
Even the lower end Lexmark 630 is a great model.. I have worked with most of Lexmark's lineup...
I used to be a DIE HARD HP Fan, but I have been moving more to Lexmark since they are just as good IMO if not better...
Granted the lower end Lexmark Lasers SUCK! And if you are going for a lowend consumer laser then it would be an HP.. I like the HP LJ 1200 if you are looking for a nice cheap laser printer!
We actually use the T634 I think, though I don't work with them everyday. We print close to 10,000 pages per day on some of our printers and we are pretty hard on printers in general. We print packing slips which are thicker and can leak adhesive. I understand that for what we do, printer wear is going to happen, but I feel our previous IBM printers where a lot better. Since then, Lexmark handles all of IBM's printers and I feel from what I've seen, that the quality is not the same.Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
I have clients that deals in thousands of pages per day printed and when they had the HP5SIMX and later on a LexMark Optra T634.. The Optra was serviced much less then the HP.. The HP would constantly have problems...
The Optra on the other hand worked flawlessly...
I guess it depends on the model.. What models did you have problems with? The older crappy Optra R+?
Even the lower end Lexmark 630 is a great model.. I have worked with most of Lexmark's lineup...
I used to be a DIE HARD HP Fan, but I have been moving more to Lexmark since they are just as good IMO if not better...
Granted the lower end Lexmark Lasers SUCK! And if you are going for a lowend consumer laser then it would be an HP.. I like the HP LJ 1200 if you are looking for a nice cheap laser printer!
We had a client who had tons of problems with a slightly older model of this .Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
I have clients that deals in thousands of pages per day printed and when they had the HP5SIMX and later on a LexMark Optra T634.. The Optra was serviced much less then the HP.. The HP would constantly have problems...
The Optra on the other hand worked flawlessly...
I guess it depends on the model.. What models did you have problems with? The older crappy Optra R+?
Eric
I never worked with a Lexmark Color Laser...Quote:
Originally posted by ewitte
We had a client who had tons of problems with a slightly older model of this .
Eric
I have always been a textronics fan myself :)
What do you think of the t620? I think that is the right model off the top of my head. It says 35ppm, 175,000/mo duty and it comes with the extra duty cartridge (21,000 pages). Not bad for a $750 printer. Pop in a 128MB chip from crucial ($46?) and it looks good to go. I might look into something like that when I retire my E312. That cartridge should get me through the life of the printer the way I print :)Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
I never worked with a Lexmark Color Laser...
I have always been a textronics fan myself :)
Eric
The T620 is a great model, but the only thing I dont like about the higher end Lexmark is that all their toner cartridges comes with a built in button chip... This button chips tells the printer how many pages were printed, where the toner came from, and some other crap I dont remember...
But, when that printer hits 18k pages (or whatever number it was).. IT will turn the toner cartridge off, even if there is toner left it in...
Also if you send it out for a refill, that button needs to be replaced or wipped clean, since it will not work without it. And even if you did refill it but do not turn back the mileage.. It would not work...
It comes with at 21K cartridge but it turns it off at 18K? Supposedly they have "empty" cartriges some place I was looking when I purchased the refill for my E312. Also I see "reconditioned" toner for $119 for the T series. Even if I could not find a way around that it took me 2-3 years to print 1500 pages on my current printer :) It would take forever for me to use 18K.Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
The T620 is a great model, but the only thing I dont like about the higher end Lexmark is that all their toner cartridges comes with a built in button chip... This button chips tells the printer how many pages were printed, where the toner came from, and some other crap I dont remember...
But, when that printer hits 18k pages (or whatever number it was).. IT will turn the toner cartridge off, even if there is toner left it in...
Also if you send it out for a refill, that button needs to be replaced or wipped clean, since it will not work without it. And even if you did refill it but do not turn back the mileage.. It would not work...
Eric
Edit: I found a "reset" chip for $19.95. And an empty cartridge for $39.95
I have an HP LaserJet 2200D. I am on the original toner and I have printed 4439 pages, 639 of them in duplex. They come with full toner cartridges. So far I have had 4 paperjams. I love my printer. :-) Get an HP.Quote:
Originally posted by phx
Saler at the computershop told that Hp laser printers also come with a demo toner , which can only print 1000pages. is that true?
Im not exactly sure what the cut off page.. It might of been closer to 19.5k.. It has been awhile since I had my Lexmark rep in the office :)Quote:
Originally posted by ewitte
It comes with at 21K cartridge but it turns it off at 18K? Supposedly they have "empty" cartriges some place I was looking when I purchased the refill for my E312. Also I see "reconditioned" toner for $119 for the T series. Even if I could not find a way around that it took me 2-3 years to print 1500 pages on my current printer :) It would take forever for me to use 18K.
Eric
Edit: I found a "reset" chip for $19.95. And an empty cartridge for $39.95
But they do cut off and as you can see there is a reset chip.. I wonder how that works, since each reset chip is programmed for that model...
The lower end printer didnt have it.. Just the higher end lasers...
I'm not sure but it says it will work with any future cartridges you buy for that specific model. Also only the "prebate" ones seem to have the limiter. More information here. I did it on my E312 and it was very easy (although no chip required).Quote:
Originally posted by Colossus
But they do cut off and as you can see there is a reset chip.. I wonder how that works, since each reset chip is programmed for that model...
Eric
I never heard of that prebate... I havent seen a top of the line Lexmark that didnt have it...
But its a small item.. It looks like a button battery from your motherboard.. Very easy to swap out...
I cannot speak for these refill kits, since I never used it and my clients sends to cartridge back to Lexmark for an exchange and discount.