no 80 conductor cable installed?

Everytime my computer boots up while it checks for IDE drives, the "Secondary IDE Channel no 80 conductor cable installed" message always pops up. I've replaced the cable with 3 different cables I've found and still get the same results. I have the cd-rw as master and dvd-rom as slave but I noticed hooking up the cd-rw drive by itself stops the message from appearing and when I hook up the dvd-rom it comes back. What can I do to fix this? Everything seems to be working fine even with the message.

Are you actually using an 80 wire IDE cable on the secondary IDE(ie ATA(66/100) cable or a 40 wire one (ATA33)?
It sounds as if your DVD may be ATA66 and you are using a 40 wire cable.

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Originally posted by Lord Vetinari
Are you actually using an 80 wire IDE cable on the secondary IDE(ie ATA(66/100) cable or a 40 wire one (ATA33)?
It sounds as if your DVD may be ATA66 and you are using a 40 wire cable.

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The highest rated speed for a 40-pin conductor is ATA33 not 66 :)

It is possible the drive is too old and confussing the controller.. Try swapping master/slave assignments...

Your DVD drive may be capable of better than UDMA-2(ATA33), requiring an 80 con cable. Some newer drives show up as UDMA-4(ATA66) or -5(ATA100) devices. (Not that they actually go that fast). Also, you know the blue goes to the board, black (farthest away) to the master, and white/beige (middle) to the slave. Either of those reasons could give you that message.

"The highest rated speed for a 40-pin conductor is ATA33 not 66"
Thought that is what I said?

Thank you for all your help! I'll look into getting a 80 pin cable. I had no idea there were different kinds of ribbon cables. :eek:

Ok I have another question too. I just downloaded mbm5 and I get 54C for my cpu and 33C for case. Is this bad? I hear you guys talking about keeping your cpu under 55C and sometimes it goes up all the way to 70C. I've been using the same stock fan for years without a problem but I'm getting a new one soon.

Your temps are a bit high- can you take the Heatsink fan off and take a look at the heatsink- I suspect it could do with a clean.

Ok new fans fixed temp problems (49C CPU, 30C Case) and I can now oc but the new udma/133 80 conductor cable didn't help. I'll still get the message any suggestions?

Pri master>OS hard drive
Pri slave>DVD
Sec master>Sony Burner
Sec slave>2nd hard drive.

that should do it for you, just make sure the jumpers are right after the change. and make sure you have all 80 pin ata100/133 ribbons, like mentioned before.

you can switch the sec mas and sec slv around if you so desire.

this really helps with making CD copies "on the fly", sometimes when on the same ribbon, problems occur.

hope this helps.

baldy

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Originally posted by bldegle2
Pri master>OS hard drive
Pri slave>DVD
Sec master>Sony Burner
Sec slave>2nd hard drive.

that should do it for you, just make sure the jumpers are right after the change. and make sure you have all 80 pin ata100/133 ribbons, like mentioned before.

you can switch the sec mas and sec slv around if you so desire.

this really helps with making CD copies "on the fly", sometimes when on the same ribbon, problems occur.

hope this helps.

baldy

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Why would you want the 2nd HD be on the second channel as a slave? instead of a master?

With the set up I have in the tower right now thats just not possible. Either the label on the new ribbon cable I got was wrong or the DVD-Rom has a problem.

Lite-x2x- How are your drives reported in Control panel\system\harware devices\IDE atapi\IDE primary or secondary\Advanced- It should say what UDMA mode they are in?

I don't see UDMA mode anywhere. Its reported as "ATAPI DVD-Rom 16x" and it says its working properly.

not in the DVD/CDrom section- in the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers- Primary or secondary IDE/advanced

I don't see an advanced option, only properties. But I found out from Intel App Accelerator that its transfer mode is UDMA-2 and it recognizes the cable only as a 40 pin instead of an 80 pin.

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Why would you want the 2nd HD be on the second channel as a slave? instead of a master?

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reread my original post, i do believe i said something to the effect that they could be switched around, i just gave my preference, being doing it this way for years without problems. i prefer the burner in the master slot, a personal preference, and having the other HD as slave or master on the secondary IDE shouldn't make a spit of difference for speed of access.

just wondering if you some insight on the Master/Slave thing.

baldy

Lite-x2x
Think I would try a couple of things.
1. Try the DVD as master on the secondary IDE and the CDR as slave.
2. Try the DVD as master on the secondary IDE with the CDR removed.
3. Try the DVD as slave on the primary IDE .
See if the above combos still give the error and check the UDMA status.
Sometimes two ATAPI devices on the same IDE channel do not behave with each other.

Okay i think i'll try separating the two.

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Originally posted by bldegle2
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reread my original post, i do believe i said something to the effect that they could be switched around, i just gave my preference, being doing it this way for years without problems. i prefer the burner in the master slot, a personal preference, and having the other HD as slave or master on the secondary IDE shouldn't make a spit of difference for speed of access.

just wondering if you some insight on the Master/Slave thing.

baldy

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rereading he post wouldn't have solved his question.... His question was as to 'why' you choose that preference, which you answered in your 2nd post...

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Originally posted by bldegle2
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reread my original post, i do believe i said something to the effect that they could be switched around, i just gave my preference, being doing it this way for years without problems. i prefer the burner in the master slot, a personal preference, and having the other HD as slave or master on the secondary IDE shouldn't make a spit of difference for speed of access.

just wondering if you some insight on the Master/Slave thing.

baldy

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Not an insight... But a matter of preference as well...

I was just curious as to why you had picked that arrangement...

Thanks Coolqf :)