so, where do you guys see the sweet spot at in today's market? everyone's needs are different, but where do you see the divide between enough, and too much?
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so, where do you guys see the sweet spot at in today's market? everyone's needs are different, but where do you see the divide between enough, and too much?
For casual/slight enthusiast use, 3.2MP with a GOOD lense is all you need. Eg. Canon A75
3 is nice, but 4 is much better for printing 8x10s and cropping, so I'm going to go with that.
3 is the "sweet spot" if you are talking about price/performance.
4 MP = a big jump in price (unless it's a crappy cam with stupid no-name)
i think 3 will be good enough for most uses already...5 and 6 MPs would be overkill..
I agree with what the rest said. 3 MP is enough.
You can never have enough pixels. The more pixels the more one can do with an image. If you want to enlarge any photo above the usual 8x10 a >6 meg pixel image is required. I sometimes play with satellite images that must be enlarged to 11x17 (the largest size my printer can handle) for a good view.
I voted 4.0; for the average consumer who just wants to take pictures and print them, that's the best price/performance balance. I haven't had any issues at 3.1, but I haven't tried enlarging the pictures much. Besides that, the image files are pretty large in that 6.0 area, and larger images mean more expensive, larger storage. If you're a professional photographer or someone who relies on image clarity (like UA), I'd go higher, but for most people, 4.0 is the sweet spot.
You can never have enough Megapixels!!
Not even the ULTRA EXPENSIVE PHASE ONE P25 with 22 megapixels that will let you save a RAW file uncompressed in a small, tiny, not big 45 megabyte file is enough for me.
Now for a tiny 8 by 10 print you need over like 3 megapixels.
looking at a few cameras, and was surprised to see so many recommend 3MP... i chose 4MP, however bigger is obviously better.
the reason for the poll was part curiosity, and part looking for advice. the canon s1 was definately a consideration, as i plan to take some wildlife photos and such, but for the price, quality, and extra megapixels, i think i would be better off with the the canon a80. printing 8x10s would be realistic then, and for equal price i could grab goodies, maybe even an underwater case ( :D ). the s60 is unimpressive for the price to me, and the s400/500s dont offer much for someone to learn on. from there on up, things get pricy, which kindve put me off since im new to photography.
im not set on canon, but besides sony and their pricier memory sticks, the competition doesnt seem to compare.
i have a feeling the 3MP limit would be a major holdback, especially when it comes to printing :(
I have a 3.2 MP Minolta Dimage z1.
I previously had a 3.2MP Tohsiba PDR-M71.
I didn't need more megapixels when I got a new camera, i rarely print pictures off, and I what i use is a lot of web-based stuff, so I crop and shrink it down to a few hundred pixels by a few hundred pixels anyway.
So I say, get me a 3.2 megapixel camera, throw in lots of features (i love a great movie mode, as I like making movies, but don't want to buy a full fledged video camera).
:confused: Not so obviously. There are plenty of 3MP digital cameras that are hundreds of times better quality wise, and printing off certain 3MP cameras would look better than some 4MP cameras. You really have to go off of more than the number of megapixels.Quote:
Originally posted by ThemSkillz1
looking at a few cameras, and was surprised to see so many recommend 3MP... i chose 4MP, however bigger is obviously better.
Its like a monitor, whats probably the most distinguishable thing about a monitor (besides size), probably the resoultion. But how many people buy straight off resolution? Nobody, it all depends on picture quality and other factors.
The same should go with a digicam.
i think "more mp is better" is a myth.. there are much more important things like the quality and size of the ccd...
my canon a75 set to 2.0mp mode has SUPERIOR... i MEAN SUPERIOR quality shots compared to my sony cybershot 2.0mp Point-and-Shoot
When printing:
3MP is good for 4x6 or 5x7.
4MP is good for 8x10.
5MP is good for 8.5x11 (borderless).
6MP is good for 11x14.
Anything bigger will cause crappy prints. So 5MP is good for anybody who has a standard printer and wants to print full bleed images.
-MrD
You and Trav are both right except when it comes to printing. Nothing can defeat the lack of megapixels (except aftermarket resizers like S-Spline) when printing.Quote:
Originally posted by kpxgq
i think "more mp is better" is a myth.. there are much more important things like the quality and size of the ccd...
my canon a75 set to 2.0mp mode has SUPERIOR... i MEAN SUPERIOR quality shots compared to my sony cybershot 2.0mp Point-and-Shoot
-MrD
i think 4 is the proper balance.
You can never have enough. ;)
3.2MP is great for snapshots and such. But if you really want some quality photos, accept nothing short of a SLR camera. Granted they're still a bit pricey, but the quality you get is well worth the money. :)
No way, it depends on your skills, you could definitely do beauuuuuutiful shots with 3.2
Unless you want to blow it beyond 8x10 :p
I fully agree, I get sick of people basing opinions on camera pretty much solely on the number of megapixels. Some of these 2MP and 3MP cameras with CMOS sensors are just poor, you can print out larger photos with their pictures but it doesn't do you much good when the quality is so low.Quote:
Originally posted by kpxgq
i think "more mp is better" is a myth.. there are much more important things like the quality and size of the ccd...
my canon a75 set to 2.0mp mode has SUPERIOR... i MEAN SUPERIOR quality shots compared to my sony cybershot 2.0mp Point-and-Shoot
John
Well, all things being equal. If you have the choice between a good 3mp camera and a good 4mp camera and want to be printing 8x10s, buy the 4mp one.Quote:
Originally posted by Johnmcl7
I fully agree, I get sick of people basing opinions on camera pretty much solely on the number of megapixels. Some of these 2MP and 3MP cameras with CMOS sensors are just poor, you can print out larger photos with their pictures but it doesn't do you much good when the quality is so low.
John
The number of pixels isn't everything! A good digital camera must have well balanced features just as with a film camera. The lens is most important. I'll take a low resolution camera with a Leica lens over a higher resolution camera with a Nikon lens any day. What is really nice is to combine the benefits of the interchangeable lens of a 35mm film camera with a digital camera. There are a few of these cameras in the marketplace. They are quite versatile and are worth consideration by the serious photographer.
My pet peeve with all digital cameras is the delay between pushing the "shutter" button and taking the picture. There is no substitute for a fast 35mm camera!
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Originally posted by masteraleph
Well, all things being equal. If you have the choice between a good 3mp camera and a good 4mp camera and want to be printing 8x10s, buy the 4mp one.
The sweetpoint in price is not yet there for 4mp
Almost though.
sorry i wasnt clear... i wasnt trying to equate quality with quantity, but was just referring to the ability to have larger prints on a 4MP compared to a 3MP of equal quality. the cameras i mentioned in the post all have comparable quality shots.Quote:
Originally posted by Trav2003
:confused: Not so obviously. There are plenty of 3MP digital cameras that are hundreds of times better quality wise, and printing off certain 3MP cameras would look better than some 4MP cameras. You really have to go off of more than the number of megapixels.
MrD... i bookmarked post on S-Spline before, gotta search or dig it up :D
very helpful discussion here, but i know there are more photographers on this forum, ive seen some good pics :) the dpreview.com forums have some incredible canon s1 shots to be found also ive found recently.
PS, to a mod: can you fix the title to say "is 'enough'"? just looks better to have a sticky without a typo :D
Yeah that drives me nuts too.Quote:
Originally posted by ThemSkillz1
PS, to a mod: can you fix the title to say "is 'enough'"? just looks better to have a sticky without a typo :D
-MrD
How I hate that delay!!!!Quote:
Originally posted by ua549
My pet peeve with all digital cameras is the delay between pushing the "shutter" button and taking the picture. There is no substitute for a fast 35mm camera!
You can minimize that delay by disabling the auto features and going manual :)
But its still not as good as a 35mm film camera.. I love my Rebel :D