...I still like Doom 3 better and still think it has the better engine. I know, flame on, but I thought I couldn't just bash HL2 without playing it. Now I can bash it all I want as I own it and still prefer Doom 3.
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...I still like Doom 3 better and still think it has the better engine. I know, flame on, but I thought I couldn't just bash HL2 without playing it. Now I can bash it all I want as I own it and still prefer Doom 3.
Interesting. What do you like more about DOOM 3? I like it, too, but in my opinion the weapons lack impact and the gameplay becomes repetitive. I knew by the time I got to Delta Labs 1 that it was probably all over. Yes, the engine is fabulous but it will be great to see it used in a game that isn't all corridors.
I thought your post was a little out there in the poll question before you even played the game...Quote:
Originally posted by AutomaticErik
...I still like Doom 3 better and still think it has the better engine. I know, flame on, but I thought I couldn't just bash HL2 without playing it. Now I can bash it all I want as I own it and still prefer Doom 3.
I thought you had jumped the gun a little there. Maybe you were just looking at the technical specs of the engine, but came off a little fan boyish. I'm glad you can freely bash with experience now.'Quote:
Originally posted by AutomaticErik
D3 engine by far. The CryTek engine has to be the buggiest thing in existence.
You actually asked people to say if they liked HL2 or Doom 3 better? Last time i saw someone say they didnt like doom 3 you were there to say they obvously hadnt played doom 3..
This threads going to be any different than that in what way?
pffftt.. In Doom3, there is only 2 levels. One is hell, which lasts and hour or so, and the rest is in a hallway and little rooms off the hallway. And thats it. Nice grahics, boring a** game. Every 5 minutes you die, open a door, Die.
In half life 2, even on hard level you can play and play with no frustration and in a constantly changing enviroment. Not crazy about the loading times, especially when they are close togetther.
HL2 reminds me of max payne 2, the graphics and the sound and feeling of the gun.
Yeah, I figured I couldn't bash it til I tried it. Now I've tried it and I agree with what I've been saying all along.
As far as what I like better, pretty much everything. I think the character models have better movement. I think the lighting is much better. The general design just looks better to me. I'm playing both games at equal resolutions, no AA/AF, and settings on high quality.
And on the gameplay side, for some reason, probably having to do with the graphics, I feel more immersed in the environment with Doom 3 than with HL2.
Wasn't asking anything. Simply stating an opinion. After actually playing both games now, my opinion stays the same.Quote:
Originally posted by Mancora
You actually asked people to say if they liked HL2 or Doom 3 better? Last time i saw someone say they didnt like doom 3 you were there to say they obvously hadnt played doom 3..
This threads going to be any different than that in what way?
I never really felt immeresed in Doom 3. The game was so linear that it bored me to death. I finally finished the game after two weeks of procastinating. It was just so boring. I never really got freaked out by the game, either. That's just me though...
I started a new D3 campaign yesterday since I reinstalled my OS on my new raptor. My heart still gets pumping the minute the action starts and doesn't stop until I quit.
Doom 3 was just kinda lame and repetitive to me. Half-Life 2 at least sounds immersive from a story point of view.
I've played Doom 3 but not HL2 yet (DAMN PAPER SLEEVES! HOLD MY CDS, DON'T SCRATCH THEM!); I got bored pretty quickly with Doom, because it was dark and linear. The gameplay was alright, but I found I wasn't really having fun; it was like a field trip through a nice engine.
That's just my opinion, though; I'm sure there are plenty who don't agree with me.
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Originally posted by Abarine
I've played Doom 3 but not HL2 yet (DAMN PAPER SLEEVES! HOLD MY CDS, DON'T SCRATCH THEM!); I got bored pretty quickly with Doom, because it was dark and linear. The gameplay was alright, but I found I wasn't really having fun; it was like a field trip through a nice engine.
That's just my opinion, though; I'm sure there are plenty who don't agree with me.
ypu, that sums up my opinion also.
Without the VariLight mod, I don't think I would have enjoyed, much less finished, Doom 3. It was critical, at least for me. I agree that it was just way too dark.
Sry m8 but i don't get this post , what the heck you liked more in Doom III ,...the same monsters who jump on you in the same repetitive way with some retarded AI and usualy from spots that you already know ? ,...
Doom III was a ok game with monsters but that's kinda all , this HL2 is one of best if not the best stuff ever made on PC concerning gameplay , at least imo .
HL2 is the same monsters that get on you in the same way so whats the difference? If Doom 3 is considered repetitive, then HL2 has to be as well.
No surprises here. You have defended D3 as the greatest thing since sliced bread, regardless of the shortcomings that a great deal of people have indicated.Quote:
Originally posted by AutomaticErik
...I still like Doom 3 better and still think it has the better engine. I know, flame on, but I thought I couldn't just bash HL2 without playing it. Now I can bash it all I want as I own it and still prefer Doom 3.
You are to D3 what OpStar is to nVidia. :D
LOL! :D Total agreement from me. AE's all about OGL/nV.....anything else, namely D3D/Ati, sux cast iron ballz in his opinion.:p :DQuote:
Originally posted by Un4given
No surprises here. You have defended D3 as the greatest thing since sliced bread, regardless of the shortcomings that a great deal of people have indicated.
You are to D3 what OpStar is to nVidia. :D
HAHAHAHA LOL HAHAHAHAHAQuote:
Originally posted by Un4given
No surprises here. You have defended D3 as the greatest thing since sliced bread, regardless of the shortcomings that a great deal of people have indicated.
You are to D3 what OpStar is to nVidia. :D
I wont even go into how I finished Doom3 in just a handful of hours, where it was the same thing. Same dark corridor (wouldnt know it from another, so damn dark) and killing the same 5 mobs...
But atleast HL2 has alot more to offer, I agree that HL2 had alot of filler action.. Like I have said before, there was alot of driving to nowhere in HL2.
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Originally posted by Un4given
No surprises here. You have defended D3 as the greatest thing since sliced bread, regardless of the shortcomings that a great deal of people have indicated.
You are to D3 what OpStar is to nVidia. :D
humm ,...i don't think so , compearing HL2 with Doom 3 is like compearing a X800XT with a Nvidia 5700 , ...Opstar will never argue on stuff like this , here the difference is realy huge .
Don't get me wrong, I think the D3 engine has some very good attributes.
1. Overall lighting effects are better.
2. Plays smoother at lower fps.
3. Still looks quite good even at lower resolutions.
However, to look beyond the engines of these games, I hands down find HL2 to have more believable character interaction, world interaction, and general game play premise.
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Originally posted by Un4given
No surprises here. You have defended D3 as the greatest thing since sliced bread, regardless of the shortcomings that a great deal of people have indicated.
You are to D3 what OpStar is to nVidia. :D
hahah going to have to agree with this too. Doom 3 was a great technical demo, but for a game, it lacked. HL2 isn't the greatest game ever, but it's sure steps ahead of Doom 3. HL2 at least tries to add some varying gameplay. I do think it's funny that the people that defended doom 3 like crazy when it was criticized are the same people that cut HL2 down for the same thing. :)
While I may criticize sometimes, and have an obvious UT2004 bias, I am glad that both Doom 3 and Half Life 2 have come out and some folks totally dig 'em. They may be short and repetitive or whatever, but they are both innovative and sorta cool and certainly a lot better than some of the stuff out there (errr - will rock comes to mind). :D
I guess the hype kinda puts a target on their back and people may tend to be harder on them than they otherwise would. Heck, some folks even liked Daikatana... :D :D :D
Hey - if you dug the games - more power to ya! Enjoy and don't let geeks like me keep ya down! Rise up against DA MAN and put us in our place. :)
Agreed. I've always been an OpenGL/nV fanboy, but for good reason.
I've used ATI and nVidia cards and have had less problems with nVidia as well as great performance.
I've played games based on D3D and OGL and have yet to see any D3D game that can run as nicely and look as beautiful as an OGL title.
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Originally posted by Un4given
Don't get me wrong, I think the D3 engine has some very good attributes.
1. Overall lighting effects are better.
2. Plays smoother at lower fps.
3. Still looks quite good even at lower resolutions.
However, to look beyond the engines of these games, I hands down find HL2 to have more believable character interaction, world interaction, and general game play premise.
I completely agree with this. The Doom 3 graphics were better (both are very nice) but HL2 has been a better overall experience. I am sure someone will make a great overall game with the D3 engine, but D3 wasn't it. I thought doom 3 had great atmosphere, even better that HL2. It wore off quickly though after the first couple of levels. There have been a lot of great games out this year.