Where are these lock ups coming from?!??

Ok, heres the deal. I get lock ups that i can not explain. I get them when i turn on my computer and the startup music playing sometimes. I get them when installing and playing Diablo2. I do NOT get them when running 3Dmark. I also get them when installing Unreal Tourney. I also do not get them when playing music. Can anyone explain these and cure them?

Heres my setup:
1.1Ghz AMD Thunderbird
Abit KT7 mobo
128Megs CAS2 PC133 ram
ELSA Gladiac Geforce2 GTS

IRQs:

0 System timer
1 Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural Keyboard
2 Programmable interrupt controller
3 SCI IRQ used by ACPI bus
4 Creative SB Live! Value
4 VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
4 VIA Tech 3038 PCI to USB Universal Host Controller
4 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
5 Creative SB16 Emulation
6 Standard Floppy Disk Controller
7 Printer Port (LPT1)
8 System CMOS/real time clock
9 (free)
10 ELSA GLADIAC
10 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
11 3Com EtherLink 10/100 PCI NIC (3C905-TX)
11 ACPI IRQ Holder for PCI IRQ Steering
12 PS/2 Compatible Mouse Port
13 Numeric data processor
14 Primary IDE controller (dual fifo)
14 VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller
15 Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo)
15 VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller


I have the newest sound and VIA drivers. I am running the 6.31 detenators. Any ideas anyone? I am all out.



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"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Professor Frink

Try and disable soundBlaster16 emulation in Device Manager.

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Nah, that did not work... The game seems to lock up during high memory scenes when there are a couple enemies that suddenly come near me, or when I am leaving a game. Fortunatly, it has not locked up on startup yet https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif

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[This message has been edited by sludge (edited January 11, 2001).]

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Originally posted by sludge:
Nah, that did not work... The game seems to lock up during high memory scenes when there are a couple enemies that suddenly come near me, or when I am leaving a game. Fortunatly, it has not locked up on startup yet https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif

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Go here:
http://go.to/kt7faq

Hope that helps.

Ive already seen that page, but i am hesitant to do what they say. I bought a damn Geforce2 and i want to play my games like i am using one. I do not want to decrease my darn quality and speed. http://dev.www.sharkyforums.forums.relay.cool/

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"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Professor Frink

Random lockups are often due to one of three problems.

1. Poor heat dissipation (sp?)
2. Low quality RAM
3. Poor voltage regulation from your PS.

See if you can eliminate these possibilities before you start crippling your system.

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I don't believe stats. In a discussion, something like 37% of people make up the stats they use off the top of their head.

Well just remember, the lockups are only at bootup and in something like diablo2 for example, but not 3Dmark. I have a 300Watt PSU, 128megs CAS2 PC133 crucial ram, and a VERY low system temp. That rules out that idea.

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"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Professor Frink

I am ***OFFICALLY*** declaring it a soundcard problem. Now, first things first, how do i make my soundcard have a _dedicated_ IRQ so that it is not sharing it with my PCI to USB bridge? I understand that soundcards need their own IRQ, maybe this is the problem.

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"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Professor Frink

its the video card.....
The kt7 is very picky with these
ati cards...forget it
tnt2 ultra (my card) crashes on dvd playback after 10 mins..EVERY TIME...(+_2 min)
I stuck in an old voodoo banshee...FIXED
its not heat (temp 38 with a few extra fans)
(temp 49 with no extra)
crashes due to TNT2 ultra

I'm going with the soundcard being the cause. I have disabled sound for UT while starting in safe mode for the game. NO LOCKS. But who wants to play a game without sound?

Look in that direction and post any fixes.

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Originally posted by sarahjh:
its the video card.....
The kt7 is very picky with these
ati cards...forget it
tnt2 ultra (my card) crashes on dvd playback after 10 mins..EVERY TIME...(+_2 min)
I stuck in an old voodoo banshee...FIXED
its not heat (temp 38 with a few extra fans)
(temp 49 with no extra)
crashes due to TNT2 ultra

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Try downloading and installing the Via IDE Busmaster Driver only, not the 4-n-1 driver. I do not believe the problem you are having with DVD playback is video card related. I am using a Geforce 2 GTS and after about 10-30 minutes of DVD playback, the screen would freeze, dump me back to the desktop, or just lock the system up. Also, my framerate was a just a little jumpy.

All of the problems cleared up when running the IDE Busmaster. I had previously installed the 4-n-1 drivers, but for some reason the IDE Busmaster didn't load. Once installed, Via has a nifty little program accessible through the Programs menu that lets you see the UDMA or DMA mode of each device.

To sarahjh:

It is not the videocard. I have disabled my soundcard + emulation and played diablo2 for about an hour and not crashed. Before I would crash about 5 minutes into it, but as Thooner said, who wants to play a game without sound? Anyone got ideas?

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"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Professor Frink

Ahh.. the USB controllers. I hated those little bastards. They had a tendancy to follow either your sound or videocard around in the IRQs.

Try to force your soundcard into a different IRQ from within the BIOS(IRQ #9 looks like a good candidate). If the USB Controllers follow it, move the soundcard to another PCI (slot #3 worked on my A7V), and try again.

Remember, I am telling you this from my experience with an A7V.. hope this helps https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif

Yea, these USB controllers are clinging to me like genital warts.

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"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Professor Frink

ARGH! Moving the card does not change anything, these still follow me where ever I go! What can i do?

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"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Professor Frink

Assign the other PCI slots to other IRQs.. If I remember correctly, dedicating slot 4 & 5 to an IRQ, on the A7V, controlled where the USB controllers went.

Try to assign all the expansion slots to seperate IRQs, then experiment from there.. Remember to assign the IRQs from within the BIOS also.

[This message has been edited by unenlightened one (edited January 12, 2001).]

Hmm, current update:

I now have NO IRQ conflicts that I can see. The computer has yet to lockup on startup, but it still locks up in diablo2. I spoke to tech supports and here is what I have done so far: cured my IRQ problem, got the IRQ routing patch from VIA, and deleted my old drivers completely and reinstalled them. The guy told me if this did not work to reinstall windows. I am thinking about flashing my BIOS and if that does not work, to reinstall windows.

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"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Professor Frink

BTW, does this happen to anyone else?

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"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Professor Frink

please guys... i really need help.

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"Well, sure, the Frinkiac-7 looks impressive, but I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them." - Professor Frink