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OK, I am gonna take the plunge into water cooling. Where do I begin. Who do I order from. I've seen the SenFu kit selling, and price is not that big a deal, but I don't want crap. Anyway, I'm also looking for extremely quiet, thus one of the reasons I'm heading to this solution. Can you guys point me in the right direction, especillay towards pumps that are nice and quiet, but still do the job.
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Are you looking for a setup with a resevoir, or do you want a closed circuit setup?Quote:
Originally posted by fireman233:
OK, I am gonna take the plunge into water cooling. Where do I begin. Who do I order from. I've seen the SenFu kit selling, and price is not that big a deal, but I don't want crap. Anyway, I'm also looking for extremely quiet, thus one of the reasons I'm heading to this solution. Can you guys point me in the right direction, especillay towards pumps that are nice and quiet, but still do the job.
MIKE
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I'm not sure. I imagine that a reservoir system gives better performance, but a closed circuit system would probably be quieter. I am definitely open to ideas!!
I'm still not sure I want a bucket of water over my system...
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Closed circuit aren't necessarily quieter, but they tend to take less room because you don't have a resevoir. The downside is they can be a pain to get filled and blead the air from the system.
If you get a resevoir system you can get internal or external pump systems. Internal pump systems use less space, but having the pupm in the resevoir can increase temps 1-2C.
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[This message has been edited by Un4given (edited July 08, 2001).]
Well, from the way you make it souund, a reservoir based external pump sounds like the best idea, but how loud is it? If it isn't too loud, then this sounds like the idea for me
Depends on the unit and the output of the pump.Quote:
Originally posted by fireman233:
Well, from the way you make it souund, a reservoir based external pump sounds like the best idea, but how loud is it? If it isn't too loud, then this sounds like the idea for me
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i have a reservoir and external pump. It's absolutely silent. The only thing i hear is my video card fan.Quote:
Originally posted by fireman233:
Well, from the way you make it souund, a reservoir based external pump sounds like the best idea, but how loud is it? If it isn't too loud, then this sounds like the idea for me
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Good, then share the knowledge. I have not yet built mine, and am currently doing research. Any and all information pertaining to the experience of those who have built water cooled systems is appreciated and welcome.Quote:
Originally posted by patlo:
i have a reservoir and external pump. It's absolutely silent. The only thing i hear is my video card fan.
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My internal Rio 180gph pump is very very quiet...much better than my screaming Delta https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif
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I think that a 777's engine would be quieter than those Delta fans. https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/6.gifQuote:
Originally posted by ynd69:
My internal Rio 180gph pump is very very quiet...much better than my screaming Delta https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/06/5.gif
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Before I fell asleep last night I was thinking about what I would do if I had it to do over. Here's my thought:
I was looking at my 45 gallon fishtank. It has a Fluval 3-part filter that holds about a gallon of water (it is for fishtanks up to 150 gallons. yes, this is overkill). It's really quiet, and would make an AWESOME pump/reservoir combination. You can get them for ~$150 @ Petsmart or Petco.
Find a copper radiator from a refrigerator or old car or something... very important. Then get a DangerDen Maze waterblock. I'd do some reading at the local sites before dropping $, I think you can build your own for the same money that is 10x better.
I figure this system would cost ~$200 total, but it would be MUCH better than my Blizzard.
Good luck
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What can I use for the reservoir? I was thinking that I would like some sort of see through case. Maybe plexi-glass or something. It's be nice to take a quick glance and see what the liquid level is, make sure there are no leaks, etc. Plus, then look cool. Does anyone sell such objects?
Also, what do you think for waterblock, I've got it narrowed down to 2 of them
1) Dangerden MAZE1 for socket370
2) Overclock-watercool SILVERBASED Copper waterblock for socket 370
For my pump I used an Eheim 1046. this pump is absolutely silent. Zero noise, i'm not kidding. http://www.eheim.com/Quote:
Originally posted by Un4given:
Good, then share the knowledge. I have not yet built mine, and am currently doing research. Any and all information pertaining to the experience of those who have built water cooled systems is appreciated and welcome.
For my waterblock i used the Swiftech MCW462 http://www.swiftnets.com/
This block works great but is on the expensive side. Get the Maze2 if you wanna save some money. I heard it is really good. Here is a link. http://www.dangerden.com/mall/water_block.asp
For my reservoir i used a clear plastic juice container i bought from a Canadian Tire store. (Is there Canadian Tire in the states?... oh well, you juice containers anywhere)
For the fan that i use to cool the radiator i use the Panaflo 120mm L1A (68.9cfm, 30dBa) http://2cooltek.safeshopper.com/6/209.htm?674
This fan is very quiet too.
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I'm still getting part for my WC setup, got a PC case, going to make my own block. Got to find a radiator, a visit to my local car scrap dealer in order here I think, to get a heater matrix.
I have one question though, what flow rate to go for?
I have heard a lot of people at WC sites talk of using at least 300GHP - 400GPH for the ideal setup. But I do hear of people using about 200, though I hear that less than this can cause problems.
I was going to aim for about 300 with an Eheim pump or similar. Any opinions?
ynd69 do you find 180 enough, what is your setup (CPU)? and temps?
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[This message has been edited by Pailin (edited July 09, 2001).]
BUMP.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pailin:
I'm still getting part for my WC setup, got a PC case, going to make my own block. Got to find a radiator, a visit to my local car scrap dealer in order here I think, to get a heater matrix.
I have one question though, what flow rate to go for?
I have heard a lot of people at WC sites talk of using at least 300GHP - 400GPH for the ideal setup. But I do hear of people using about 200, though I hear that less than this can cause problems.
I was going to aim for about 300 with an Eheim pump or similar. Any opinions?
ynd69 do you find 180 enough, what is your setup (CPU)? and temps?
I would recommend a lower GPH like 150GPH. I just bought a 300GPH and it runs very hot, almost like the CPU itself. The noise isn't really a problem beause i think they're all pretty quite. MY 300GPH is a total failure, plus the water block is too expensive to get. They are like $38 for CPU and $27 for AGP card. I recommand staying with the air cool until something better come out. (Get the new Dragon OrB @ thermaltake.com)
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Well for the reservoir its totally up to you. Some people have used Tupperware boxes as reservoirs! (nods at White's direction) and they have worked perfectly.Quote:
Originally posted by fireman233:
What can I use for the reservoir? I was thinking that I would like some sort of see through case. Maybe plexi-glass or something. It's be nice to take a quick glance and see what the liquid level is, make sure there are no leaks, etc. Plus, then look cool. Does anyone sell such objects?
Also, what do you think for waterblock, I've got it narrowed down to 2 of them
1) Dangerden MAZE1 for socket370
2) Overclock-watercool SILVERBASED Copper waterblock for socket 370
My friend used some sort of plexiglass as his reservoir and stuck it in his 5.25 bays so everyone could see the water https://www.sharkyforums.com/images/.../2005/08/2.gif
About the blocks, I would go with Dangerden, most of the people here do.
Pailin, 200gph is more than enough IMHO, anything more has diminishing returns and I would only recommend higher gph if you were cooling the chipset/video card with one pump.
A month ago my temps were: 31c idle, 35c full load (room is very warm). Due to the increased heat, my temp are now 36c idle and 41-42c full load.
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