Playstation 4

[Kamakazie]

It sounds like Sony gets it this time. PS4 is all about social interactions and oneness, something that was absolutely missing from PS3.

http://kotaku.com/5985701/the-playst...s-here?tag=ps4

[taggart6]

Watching the live stream on gametrailers.com


Sounds good so far but those are some pretty hefty goals regarding connectivity and online community. Ohhhh....games are now being announced.

[James]

8-core x86 AMD CPU
AMD GPU ~2TFLOPS performance (Assuming this is 32-bit floating point performance)
8GB GDDR5 shared between CPU & GPU (176GB/s bandwidth)
"Large" local hard drive

Anandtech - Playstation 4: PC inside

[richardginn]

new watch dogs demo at the conference!!!!!

[Kamakazie]

Watch Dogs looks extremely impressive.

[Astros Fan]

Deep Down...WOW!!

[dyne]

Remote play everything on my Vita? Awesome.
Eventually have PS1-3 games on any mobile device? Awesome.
Big focus on a snappy UI and instant gameplay during downloads? Awesome.

The start of the conference just wowed me. They get it. They're so laser focused on what's important. They almost came off as humble, yet determined.

Diablo 3 seems like a cash grab. Nobody cares at this point. I'm very surprised that and Destiny will also be on PS3 as well.

[Timman_24]

Looks great. I'm kind of worried about pricing though. 8GB of GDDR5 isn't cheap. Add on all the other components and this has to be a $400+ console. I'm wondering if they will do some sort of subsidized model where you buy a PS Plus 2 year contract and get the PS4 for 299. I'm hoping the streaming demos and such are behind a pay wall. Having a monthly fee will pretty much kill it for me.

[kpxgq]

wow 8gb of gddr5 is just INSANE... i dont think i have ever topped 3gb of ram usage on my PC playing even skyrim or battlefield3 maxxed out... the ps4 has 8gb of much faster gddr5 ram and it only needs to render at 1080p... i think we need to wait another 2 chipset updates in the PC world before we can even buy gddr5 system ram

im also excited about the vita-ps4 connectivity... it seems that lots of games will support using the vita as a controller like the wii u except with superior specs

[James]

Looks great. I'm kind of worried about pricing though. 8GB of GDDR5 isn't cheap. Add on all the other components and this has to be a $400+ console. I'm wondering if they will do some sort of subsidized model where you buy a PS Plus 2 year contract and get the PS4 for 299. I'm hoping the streaming demos and such are behind a pay wall. Having a monthly fee will pretty much kill it for me.

Haha, at least the CPU is budget. It probably only cost them $30 or less.

*Edit: My worry about shared RAM for CPU/GPU: If they screw it up and do what computers have done for years. I.e. have RAM dedicated to one or the other, and end up needing to copy between the two memory pools. If they do truly unified memory access, it will be AWESOME (zero copy type stuff). I need to go research what AMD has been doing in Piledriver based CPUs and APUs. Because I think they are still copying from CPU buffer to GPU buffer when sending stuff between the two processors.

[Wurm]

What I've been reading about the AMD APU makes them sound pretty impressive.

Looks like the PS4 is going to be very nice.

[James]

What I've been reading about the AMD APU makes them sound pretty impressive.

Looks like the PS4 is going to be very nice.

Indeed, seems they will be using the new Jaguar cores (next gen past Piledriver) So should be really interesting.

Engadget posted more details
As does the Verge

• 8-core 64-bit x86 "Jaguar" CPU built by AMD
• Radeon GPU comprised of 18 "compute units" capable of cranking out 1.84 TFLOPS
• Blu-ray drive -- spins at a brisk 6X (8X for DVDs)
• 8GB of unified GDDR5 RAM capable of 176GB/sec of bandwidth
• 802.11n WiFi
• USB 3.0
• Bluetooth 2.1
• HDMI
• optical out
• legacy analog AV out
• potential amounts of storage are still unspecified.

Here's the full spec sheet:

• Single-chip custom processor, with eight x86-64 AMD Jaguar CPU cores and 1.84 TFLOPS next-gen AMD Radeon based graphics engine
• 8GB GDDR5 memory
• Built-in hard drive
• 6x Blu-Ray and 8x DVD drive
• USB 3.0 and auxiliary ports
• Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi, and Bluetooth 2.1
• HDMI, analog AV-out, and optical S/PDIF audio output
• DualShock 4 controller, with two-point capacitive touchpad, three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer, vibration, light bar with three color LEDs, mono speaker, micro USB port, stereo headset port, extension port, 1000mAh battery
• PlayStation 4 Eye camera, with two 1280 x 800 cameras, f/2.0 fixed focus lenses, 85-degree field of view, 30cm minimum focusing distance, four-channel microphone array

[Wurm]

I wonder if this might save AMD's butt...

[richardginn]

Sony may have gotten 8GB of GDDR5 on the cheap since they will buy so much up front...

I would love to buy some GDDR5 for my APU, but no motherboard has a GDDR5 slot. Will DDR4 be just as good as GDDR5 for gaming???

[flutie98]

wow 8gb of gddr5 is just INSANE... i dont think i have ever topped 3gb of ram usage on my PC playing even skyrim or battlefield3 maxxed out... the ps4 has 8gb of much faster gddr5 ram and it only needs to render at 1080p... i think we need to wait another 2 chipset updates in the PC world before we can even buy gddr5 system ram

im also excited about the vita-ps4 connectivity... it seems that lots of games will support using the vita as a controller like the wii u except with superior specs

GDDR5 is based on DDR3 and is not suited for general purpose computing. It sacrifices latency for extremely high bandwidth which is what modern GPU's are often limited by.